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JohnnyD1024 said:
Before debuting on TV, Nia Jaxx was being used as Eva Maries body guard at house shows. I wonder if they will have her help Eva beat Bayley.
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did she stand in front of fans so that they couldn't see that Eva was the diva standing in front of them, to curb the boos?
 
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Volwark said:
Somebody stop this guy
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NXT wants to be a big touring brand, so they're going to open the floodgates on a lot of guys that the old geezer wouldn't give the time of day. Also, another TNA star is at NXT tonight:

Gunner

I don't want to see Scott Steiner in NXT, but I do want to see him cut a promo on the Full Sail crowd.

UTK said:
Why she's even in that position with Asuka is odd. Give us Asuka and Baley for the next 4 months
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The only logic I can see in it is that they're wanting to build up an impressive undefeated streak for Asuka before pitting her against Bayley. But I don't think Asuka should be in NXT for very long (selfishly I wish she was in there forever). She was ready for the main roster yesterday.
 
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Pretty good interview with the Hitman:

Bret Hart discusses Triple H, bad booking, and the Survivor Series - Extra Mustard - SI.com

I agree and disagree with him on some things.

-I don't agree that it's HHH that likes the big guys. This has always been Vince's thing. It's quite the opposite. HHH backs guys like Kevin Owens, but Vince drools over the guys like Reigns. I think Bret's grudge against HHH is affecting his opinion.

-Obviously I don't agree with him about Reigns being one of the hardest workers. As Austin said, the guy basically took a nap in the corner during the Royal Rumble. I think this is another case of his personal bias affecting is opinion, since Reigns is a big fan of Bret. Don't necessarily agree with him about Ambrose either, altho admittedly I never considered the aspect of guys going for one spot after another instead of selling the impact. Maybe Ambrose is good at that; I haven't paid attention. There is a lot of spot monkey stuff that goes on now, particularly in the indies and NXT. Guys don't sell the psychology of the match. The women in NXT are actually doing a good job it.

-I definitely agree with him on Rollins being on the unsafe side. I like Rollins, but even before Cena and Sting were hurt, Rollins has looked reckless.

-I disagree that Reigns as been the victim of bad booking. He's had favorable booking. He's been the victim of bad creative. Some moron in the back (and by moron, I mean the old geezer) thinks because he is related to the Rock that he can come out and spin nursery rhymes like the Rock. He's better off being the quiet Diesel type.

-Not sure if I agree that Heyman is the best manager in the history of wrestling. It would have to be a tie between him and Heenan methinks.

-Agree they don't book their European stars well, but Sheamus is flat out boring. Barrett is misused badly (even if he still looks like he needs to eat a sammich), as was McIntyre. Cesaro speaks 17 languages. 17! If that is not an ambassador for your company, then I don't know what is.
 
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Volwark said:
Pretty good interview with the Hitman:

Bret Hart discusses Triple H, bad booking, and the Survivor Series - Extra Mustard - SI.com

I agree and disagree with him on some things.

-I don't agree that it's HHH that likes the big guys. This has always been Vince's thing. It's quite the opposite. HHH backs guys like Kevin Owens, but Vince drools over the guys like Reigns. I think Bret's grudge against HHH is affecting his opinion.

-Obviously I don't agree with him about Reigns being one of the hardest workers. As Austin said, the guy basically took a nap in the corner during the Royal Rumble. I think this is another case of his personal bias affecting is opinion, since Reigns is a big fan of Bret. Don't necessarily agree with him about Ambrose either, altho admittedly I never considered the aspect of guys going for one spot after another instead of selling the impact. Maybe Ambrose is good at that; I haven't paid attention. There is a lot of spot monkey stuff that goes on now, particularly in the indies and NXT. Guys don't sell the psychology of the match. The women in NXT are actually doing a good job it.

-I definitely agree with him on Rollins being on the unsafe side. I like Rollins, but even before Cena and Sting were hurt, Rollins has looked reckless.

-I disagree that Reigns as been the victim of bad booking. He's had favorable booking. He's been the victim of bad creative. Some moron in the back (and by moron, I mean the old geezer) thinks because he is related to the Rock that he can come out and spin nursery rhymes like the Rock. He's better off being the quiet Diesel type.

-Not sure if I agree that Heyman is the best manager in the history of wrestling. It would have to be a tie between him and Heenan methinks.

-Agree they don't book their European stars well, but Sheamus is flat out boring. Barrett is misused badly (even if he still looks like he needs to eat a sammich), as was McIntyre. Cesaro speaks 17 languages. 17! If that is not an ambassador for your company, then I don't know what is.
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Read the highlights of the interview on Wrestling Inc. Pretty much agree with you on all points.

Vince is fixated on the bodybuilder look (not that I'm complaining lol), but it seems he overlooks a lot of flaws in people if they have the right "look."

I'm not even sure about what to do with Reigns anymore. He can't speak at all. It either comes off cheesy or awkward most of the time. It reminds me of the Rock when he was Rocky Maivia -- kind of a cheesy good guy we are supposed to like.

Also, imagine Heenan in the WWE now where he'd have a real opportunity to cut a promo like Heyman. It'd be amazing and think of the heat he could generate.
 
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Little known fact perhaps...

The guy I learned my bodybuilding training from, Dorian Yates, was offered a contract (3 years for like 150K a year if I remember) to compete in Vince's bodybuilding federation. He turned Vince down because he wanted to compete for Mr. Olympia in the IFBB (which he won multiple times). He went on to become a hall of famer and is one of the icons like Arnold. It would have legitimatized Vince's organization most likely as opposed to it failing.
 
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TCbodybuilder said:
I'm not even sure about what to do with Reigns anymore. He can't speak at all. It either comes off cheesy or awkward most of the time. It reminds me of the Rock when he was Rocky Maivia -- kind of a cheesy good guy we are supposed to like.
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That's why they're going to have to turn Reigns heel first, just like they did with the Rock. Almost all the guys in recent history that really got over, did it by going heel first. Austin, the Rock, Cena, Punk, Bryan. When you make Reigns a heel, then a lot of the people that don't like him now will like him. You try to hook them, invest in his character, then turn him face down the road.

All of that doesn't matter tho, cause reportedly the guy calling the shots thinks he will only get over as a face or not at all.
 
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TCbodybuilder said:
Little known fact perhaps...

The guy I learned my bodybuilding training from, Dorian Yates, was offered a contract (3 years for like 150K a year if I remember) to compete in Vince's bodybuilding federation. He turned Vince down because he wanted to compete for Mr. Olympia in the IFBB (which he won multiple times). He went on to become a hall of famer and is one of the icons like Arnold. It would have legitimatized Vince's organization most likely as opposed to it failing.
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Yep, they couldn't land a lot of the big names.

Kinda like what happened with WCW invasion. All the big names were under AOL/Time Warner contracts at the time, so it ended up flopping.
 
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