You can bet on whether she stays or goes...

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OrangeEmpire said:
Remind me again why it is a fiasco?
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The controversy surrounding her is robbing McCain of the spotlight during this convention. This is supposed to be a chance to show confidence and to celebrate the presidential nominee, not a week of people laughing at you because, while whining about Obama's lack of foreign policy experience, you are also having to explain away the fact that your choice for VP got her first passport a year ago.

Regardless of whether you think she was a good choice or not, you have to amdit that the pick has put him on the defensive exactly at the moment where he ought to be introducing himself as the man with the sure and steady hand.

Not exactly working out that way.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The controversy surrounding her is robbing McCain of the spotlight during this convention. This is supposed to be a chance to show confidence and to celebrate the presidential nominee, not a week of people laughing at you because, while whining about Obama's lack of foreign policy experience, you are also having to explain away the fact that your choice for VP got her first passport a year ago.

Regardless of whether you think she was a good choice or not, you have to amdit that the pick has put him on the defensive exactly at the moment where he ought to be introducing himself as the man with the sure and steady hand.

Not exactly working out that way.
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Tell me how wonderful that Obama speech was?????

Oh...... Palin has dominated the news and brought the fringe liberals out of the wood work.

You know, it is a sign that democrats are scared if they have to attack a VP!

:birgits_giggle:
 
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lawgator1 said:
The controversy surrounding her is robbing McCain of the spotlight during this convention. This is supposed to be a chance to show confidence and to celebrate the presidential nominee, not a week of people laughing at you because, while whining about Obama's lack of foreign policy experience, you are also having to explain away the fact that your choice for VP got her first passport a year ago.

Regardless of whether you think she was a good choice or not, you have to amdit that the pick has put him on the defensive exactly at the moment where he ought to be introducing himself as the man with the sure and steady hand.

Not exactly working out that way.
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Contrary to your thoughts here, the Republican base is more energized than ever. Donations to the RNC are up substantially as are the number of volunteers.

You may be laughing, the Dems may be laughing but many are solidly behind the pick.

I saw a Rasmussen poll that said 39% of those polled thought she was the right pick. That's the same number that Biden got.
 
#8
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the political flack from getting rid of her at this point will be far worse than her kid banging her boyfriend without a condom.
 
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seems to me the only people making an issue out of this are lawgator, a bunch of lefty bloggers, and an entrenched media that has been in the tank for Obama since Super Tuesday.

It wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference who McCain picked. If he'd picked Romney, the Mormon thing would have come up, as well as Romney's wealth and his evil business decisions that led to jobs going overseas.

If it had been Michael Steele, the blacktivists would have had a field day.

Bobby Jindal was a non-starter since there was a hurricane coming, plus he's not even 40.

Joe Lieberman would have been a disaster from every perspective, left or right.

Huckabee would have been slammed for his evangelical views.

and so on.

In short, LG, you weren't going to be happy no matter who McCain picked, that much has been clear ever since you started popping off about Fox News alleged bias.
 
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droski said:
the political flack from getting rid of her at this point will be far worse than her kid banging her boyfriend without a condom.
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That's why he won't do it, at least not until well after the convention. Doing it this week would make him look weak and indecisive. Would not surprise me, however, if she bows out in about two weeks.


MG1968 said:
seems to me the only people making an issue out of this are lawgator, a bunch of lefty bloggers, and an entrenched media that has been in the tank for Obama since Super Tuesday.

It wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference who McCain picked. If he'd picked Romney, the Mormon thing would have come up, as well as Romney's wealth and his evil business decisions that led to jobs going overseas.

If it had been Michael Steele, the blacktivists would have had a field day.

Bobby Jindal was a non-starter since there was a hurricane coming, plus he's not even 40.

Joe Lieberman would have been a disaster from every perspective, left or right.

Huckabee would have been slammed for his evangelical views.

and so on.

In short, LG, you weren't going to be happy no matter who McCain picked, that much has been clear ever since you started popping off about Fox News alleged bias.
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I cannot agree with this. I don't know who I am going to vote for. Palin does make me uncomfortable. I have no confidence that she could be of assistance or run things when it comes to foreign policy. Biden is well-versed. One could in fact easily argue that Biden knows more about world politics and diplomacy than does Obama.

Ordinarily, the VP might not matter much, but with McCain I think its slightly elevated as an issue given his age.


volsforever27 said:
I didn't realize that Palin was the only thing keeping LG from voting for McCain.
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For the 100th time, I might vote for McCain. Palin as VP is a strike against the ticket, IMO. Doesn't mean I particularly care for Obama, but if the parties are going to make all of us choose between the lesser of two evils, then the loser hasn't got much to bitch about.
 
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lawgator1 said:
For the 100th time, I might vote for McCain. Palin as VP is a strike against the ticket, IMO. Doesn't mean I particularly care for Obama, but if the parties are going to make all of us choose between the lesser of two evils, then the loser hasn't got much to bitch about.
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And for the 100th time, you're full of it. The statements you make on here lead me to believe you're not exactly considering McCain.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's why he won't do it, at least not until well after the convention. Doing it this week would make him look weak and indecisive. Would not surprise me, however, if she bows out in about two weeks.





I cannot agree with this. I don't know who I am going to vote for. Palin does make me uncomfortable. I have no confidence that she could be of assistance or run things when it comes to foreign policy. Biden is well-versed. One could in fact easily argue that Biden knows more about world politics and diplomacy than does Obama.

Ordinarily, the VP might not matter much, but with McCain I think its slightly elevated as an issue given his age.




For the 100th time, I might vote for McCain. Palin as VP is a strike against the ticket, IMO. Doesn't mean I particularly care for Obama, but if the parties are going to make all of us choose between the lesser of two evils, then the loser hasn't got much to bitch about.
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Biden has forgotten more about world politics and foreign policy than Obama has learned (which is very little)
 
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volsforever27 said:
And for the 100th time, you're full of it. The statements you make on here lead me to believe you're not exactly considering McCain.
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volsforever27 said:
That was the point. He won't. He's complaining about it like he's a McCain fan.
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Admittedly, if I vote for McCain it will be more a vote against Obama than anything else.

Then again, if I vote for Obama, it will be more a vote against McCain than confidence in Obama.

Like I said, choice between lesser of two evils and I'm not convinced either way at this point.

(I am sure the majority of my political posts here would be perceived as anti-Republican, but I ask that you realize two things. First, I rarely post something "pro"-Obama. I'm not advocating him, really. Second, most of my criticism of the Republican machine is of people who I consider to be ideologically and definitiely intellectually bankrupt, like Hannity. That has much less to do with their politics than their infuriating illogic, which seems to me to exponentially increase every day. If I vote for Obama, it will be as much to tell Hannity and his ilk to screw off than anything else.)
 
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lawgator1 said:
Admittedly, if I vote for McCain it will be more a vote against Obama than anything else.

Then again, if I vote for Obama, it will be more a vote against McCain than confidence in Obama.

Like I said, choice between lesser of two evils and I'm not convinced either way at this point.

(I am sure the majority of my political posts here would be perceived as anti-Republican, but I ask that you realize two things. First, I rarely post something "pro"-Obama. I'm not advocating him, really. Second, most of my criticism of the Republican machine is of people who I consider to be ideologically and definitiely intellectually bankrupt, like Hannity. That has much less to do with their politics than their infuriating illogic, which seems to me to exponentially increase every day. If I vote for Obama, it will be as much to tell Hannity and his ilk to screw off than anything else.)
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:lolabove:

In short, I do not like Hannity.....
 
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the amazingly stupid part is some of her people actually thought her kid being knocked up would remain private. despite this i still think she will help mccain more than hurt.
 
#22
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droski said:
the amazingly stupid part is some of her people actually thought her kid being knocked up would remain private. despite this i still think she will help mccain more than hurt.
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I'm referring more to the short-term distraction this is than anything else.

Down the line, I expect that her lack of foreign policy experience may hurt much more than this. As long as he does not look like he's beating her up like a bully, Biden will smush her in the VP debate.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm referring more to the short-term distraction this is than anything else.

Down the line, I expect that her lack of foreign policy experience may hurt much more than this. As long as he does not look like he's beating her up like a bully, Biden will smush her in the VP debate.
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That's what many of you and your ilk think I know, but I have a feeling she will surprise you. The problem will be if she can get a word in edge wise.
 
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I was watching one of her speeches on Friday (I don't know when it was from) and I thought I heard her say she had a child with down syndrome, knew about it beforehand, and boasted that she didn't abort.

And now she is releasing the story that it was Bristol's?

Unless I'm completely wrong isn't that kind of bad?
 
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UTLCA said:
I was watching one of her speeches on Friday (I don't know when it was from) and I thought I heard her say she had a child with down syndrome, knew about it beforehand, and boasted that she didn't abort.

And now she is releasing the story that it was Bristol's?

Unless I'm completely wrong isn't that kind of bad?
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sober up and read the news again.

her 4 month old baby, Trig, was born with Down's Syndrom, you have that much right. The baby is hers, despite the dailyKOS and other a$$hats trying to suggest otherwise.

Her oldest daughter, Bristol, is 5 months pregnant and is engaged to the baby's father, she plans to carry the baby to term.
 
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