You go girl!...........I think.....

#26
#26
This is what he said, I just watched the video..

"I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney were not in power, people wouldn't be dying needlessly tomorrow"

So how do you get Bill Maher expressing his sorrow that the attempt on Cheney failed out of it?

If you ask me, it's scary that you believe everything you read on that site you posted..
 
#27
#27
that's not the full transcript of what he said. here's more of the conversation:

Maher: What about the people who got onto the Huffington Post – and these weren’t even the bloggers, these were just the comments section – who said they, they expressed regret that the attack on Dick Cheney failed.

Joe Scarborough: Right.

Maher: Now…

John Ridley: More than regret.

Maher: Well, what did they say?

Ridley: They said “We wish he would die.” I mean, it was (?) hate language.

Barney Frank: They said the bomb was wasted. (laughter and applause)

Maher: That’s a funny joke. But, seriously, if this isn’t China, shouldn’t you be able to say that? Why did Arianna Huffington, my girlfriend, I love her, but why did she take that off right away?

After some discussion about why Huffington should or shouldn’t have taken these comments down, the following occurred:

Ridley: It’s one thing to say you hate Dick Cheney, which applies to his politics. It’s another thing to say, “I’m sorry he didn’t die in an explosion." And I think, you know…

Maher: But you should be able to say it. And by the way...

Frank: Excuse me, Bill, but can I ask you a question? Do you decide what the topics are for this show?

Maher: Yeah, I decide the topics, they don’t go there.

Frank: But you exercise control over the show the way that she does over her blog.

Maher: But I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow. (applause)

Scarborough: If someone on this panel said that they wished that Dick Cheney had been blown up, and you didn’t say…

Frank: I think he did.

Scarborough: Okay. Did you say…

Maher: No, no. I quoted that.

Frank: You don’t believe that?

Maher: I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.
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#28
Facts are facts..

He still never expresses regret that the assassination didn't work..
 
#29
#29
I don't know what he said in this particular case, but it's not like you have to search very hard to find a case of Bill Maher saying something offensive for the sake of satire.
 
#30
#30
I still don't understand why the double standard with satire -- especially when the left claims to be the ones with the sense of humor. Why is the Coulter comment so terrible when equivalent things said by left supporters are deemed cutting satire?
 
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#31
volinbham said:
I still don't understand why the double standard with satire -- especially when the left claims to be the ones with the sense of humor. Why is the Coulter comment so terrible when equivalent things said by left supporters are deemed cutting satire?
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Because she is the Devil?
 
#32
#32
I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.
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Please explain the logic of this quote. How would Cheney dying lead to less deaths elsewhere? Is he personally killing people? No. Is he directly ordering the death of others or directly ordering actions which result in deaths? No. If he were killed, would there be any substantial change in our operations/policies in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Hard to say but most likely not.

His comment is far from "fact" as he claims. It is pure speculation that appears to be based on a deep hatred for Cheney. The quote certainly sounds like he is suggesting the world would be better off (or at least some unamed victims would be) if Cheney had been killed.
 
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OWB said:
Because she is the Devil?
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Hey, I don't like her either. I do find it humorous that the left is so up in arms about this comment. If Rosie said something equivalent, they'd be giving her an award or calling her a genius.
 
#34
#34
volinbham said:
Hey, I don't like her either. I do find it humorous that the left is so up in arms about this comment. If Rosie said something equivalent, they'd be giving her an award or calling her a genius.
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Rosie? Come on now..
 
#35
#35
As long as there are people like Bill Maher and Al Franken out there spewing forth their ignorance, there will be Ann Coulters out there spewing their own version.
 
#37
#37
if japan hadnt attacked Pearl Harbor than maybe they wouldnt have gotten 2 a-bombs dropped on their heads. if the terrorist had not caused 911 to happen i doubt very seriously we would be in afganistan or iraq right now. the left is always going to blast the right and the right is always going to blast the left. its politics folks pure and simple. wars are not destroying our country. stupid politicians and the hollywood eliet are. a lie is best protected between two truths. our government and the entertainment industry are masters at doing this. thats why its best to seek out the truth for yourself and use a little bit od God given common sense...
 
#38
#38
volinbham said:
Hey, I don't like her either. I do find it humorous that the left is so up in arms about this comment. If Rosie said something equivalent, they'd be giving her an award or calling her a genius.
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If somebody on the left made a similar comment then the right would be all up in arms, Whoppie made a joke a few years back using Cheney's first name and King George's last name, and the right went off about it. That's just the way it is. It's not just satire. There for awhile, if anybody said anything even remotely opposed to King George's war, they were pariah. Just ask Natalie Maines.
 
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#39
melissa hyberger said:
if japan hadnt attacked Pearl Harbor than maybe they wouldnt have gotten 2 a-bombs dropped on their heads. if the terrorist had not caused 911 to happen i doubt very seriously we would be in afganistan or iraq right now. the left is always going to blast the right and the right is always going to blast the left. its politics folks pure and simple. wars are not destroying our country. stupid politicians and the hollywood eliet are. a lie is best protected between two truths. our government and the entertainment industry are masters at doing this. thats why its best to seek out the truth for yourself and use a little bit od God given common sense...
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For at least the millionth time, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
For at least the millionth time, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
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did the government of iraq and saddam support terrorism in any way in your opinion? do you believe that iraq and its government never financed or supported terrorist in any form or fashion? germany had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor either but they sure did support japan doing it. So in your opinion were we wrong to go to war with germany in ww1 or ww2 sense germany never actually attacked the United States? we have been at war with iraq sense saddam violated the first of 17 resoulutions he violated after the first gulf war. the problem you seem to have with this is the fact that it took over 8yrs to get a president in the white house that actually held saddam responsible for his actions.........
 
#42
#42
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
If somebody on the left made a similar comment then the right would be all up in arms, Whoppie made a joke a few years back using Cheney's first name and King George's last name, and the right went off about it. That's just the way it is. It's not just satire. There for awhile, if anybody said anything even remotely opposed to King George's war, they were pariah. Just ask Natalie Maines.
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I agree - the right was up in arms but the left would rally around these people calling them brave, brilliant, etc. What strikes me most though is that the position of the left was always - we are smarter, more tolerant, funnier, etc. Al Franken is a perfect example. Then when someone on the right uses the same approach, they freak out and call it "hate speech". Where's the tolerance? Where's the defense of free speech? Where's the sense of humor?

It's similar to a moral slip by someone who preaches morality.
 
#46
#46
One need not watch Rosie to have pretty good handle on her politics. In fact, watching her is pretty tough on the senses, so reading about her would serve better.
 
#48
#48
melissa hyberger said:
did the government of iraq and saddam support terrorism in any way in your opinion? do you believe that iraq and its government never financed or supported terrorist in any form or fashion?
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Saddam never supported the terrorists who attacked us. Bin Laden couldn't stand Saddam. There is not one shread of evidence to link those two.
melissa hyberger said:
germany had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor either but they sure did support japan doing it. So in your opinion were we wrong to go to war with germany in ww1 or ww2 sense germany never actually attacked the United States?
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Germany declared war against the United States. Plus they were bent on world conquest. We would have had to face Hitler sooner or later. Iraq was a threat to no one.
melissa hyberger said:
we have been at war with iraq sense saddam violated the first of 17 resoulutions he violated after the first gulf war. the problem you seem to have with this is the fact that it took over 8yrs to get a president in the white house that actually held saddam responsible for his actions.........
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Okay. Where are all of these weapons of mass destruction we were supposed to find?
 
#49
#49
volinbham said:
I agree - the right was up in arms but the left would rally around these people calling them brave, brilliant, etc. What strikes me most though is that the position of the left was always - we are smarter, more tolerant, funnier, etc. Al Franken is a perfect example. Then when someone on the right uses the same approach, they freak out and call it "hate speech". Where's the tolerance? Where's the defense of free speech? Where's the sense of humor?

It's similar to a moral slip by someone who preaches morality.
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It's just politics. Both sides will support their own, and get up in arms with the other side. Kinda hypocritical of both sides, but expected.
 
#50
#50
melissa hyberger said:
did the government of iraq and saddam support terrorism in any way in your opinion? do you believe that iraq and its government never financed or supported terrorist in any form or fashion?
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Not at all, in regards to September 11. As far as terrorism in general, possibly, but no evidence supports this. As for Al-Qaeda, no.

I think it is important to go by facts, not opinions. The line between opinion and intension seems to be very thin.

melissa hyberger said:
germany had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor either but they sure did support japan doing it. So in your opinion were we wrong to go to war with germany in ww1 or ww2 sense germany never actually attacked the United States?
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They didn't financially suppport Japan, nor did they provide any military personnel for Pearl Harbor. FDR then declared war with Japan the next evening.

Germany declared war on us December 11, 1941. Therefore, no, I do not think the U.S. was wrong to go to war with Germany.

melissa hyberger said:
we have been at war with iraq sense saddam violated the first of 17 resoulutions he violated after the first gulf war. the problem you seem to have with this is the fact that it took over 8yrs to get a president in the white house that actually held saddam responsible for his actions.........
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Yes, he was wrong to violate the resolutions, but that's not why we went to war, remember? We went to war
"to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people"-Dubya. They had no WMD's, as we later learned.
 
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