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You people crack me up...
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 22, 2005 3:15 PM
Hell, I'll take a loss to KY if that speeds along the process and turns up th high presure.
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It never ceases to amaze me just how many people who claim to be Vol fans are pulling for us to lose :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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I say one more year. If fundamentals and team discipline aren't improved, then send over the moving van, regardless of the W-L record.
We have had our share of problems with the law, but I don't want to be FSU...winning w/ an entire slate of Future Convicts of America. I'd rather lose with people who have a little class than win with that kind of crowd. Sorry.
We have had our share of problems with the law, but I don't want to be FSU...winning w/ an entire slate of Future Convicts of America. I'd rather lose with people who have a little class than win with that kind of crowd. Sorry.
You, my friend are 100% correct. Some of have the forsight to see Fulmer's regime is in a death spiral and even a couple more years will put us in a situation where his replacement will have a difficult time rebuilding a program similar to the RC Slocum situation at Texas A&M. (It may take Franchioni 5 years to revive the Aggies.)
Fulmer has lost his MOJO. Ask any fan or AD from any other school in the SEC if they would trade coaches with us and I think you would get a "no" answer save for Kentucky.
None of disrepect CPF and are grateful for what he has done. However we sometimes become sentimentally attached to the past to see the true picture.
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Next year will be the biggest test to what kind of coach Fulmer is. He's already late on the changes which shows a lot for him. But his actions with staffing, changing discipline and attitude and prepping for Spring Practice, executing practice and seeing the team in that first game will tell volumes for his efforts as a coach.
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CPF is a bright person and good man. I think he has suffered from what happens to many after a long run of consistency, if not greatness -- and that is stagnation.
A lot of the little things that have to be stressed -- in a host of areas -- get brushed over more and more over time. The things that used to be happening for success start to be assumed. And, gradually, after several years of degradation, those assumptions begin to not hold true.
I think and hope that this seasons was just what the doctor ordered. Because it should help deal with CPF's other major problem other than stagnation: DELUSIONAL ARROGANCE.
Most great leaders begin soul searching when things aren't happening the way they ought to. Thus, they get things fixed -- we'll say typically -- before the siren for the bomb shelter sounds. CPF, on the otherhand, is still in denial about the problems and continues to make excuses. That attitude has fed the monster of stagnation, which leads to degradation.
Make no mistake. The 2005 version of Tennessee Football is not a fluke. It is the culmination of internal and systemic problems that have been allowed to fester the point of rupturing. These problems lie solely at the feet of the leader, Coach Fulmer. He makes $2,000,000 precisely because leaders of that ilk are rare. If he does not offer positive results in the uppermost echelon, then we have an overpaid person leading the ship, and would be better off paying an average coach $750,000 to field average teams.
Having said that, I think he is an above average coach in the totality of things; recruting is his foremost skill. With a solid staff, he can win -- and has won. But he has to look in the mirror and decide he wants it. Right now, he's backpeddling and making excuses like someone with a very fragile ego would. And until he quits protecting his own ego, I fear the changes won't be effective.
A lot of the little things that have to be stressed -- in a host of areas -- get brushed over more and more over time. The things that used to be happening for success start to be assumed. And, gradually, after several years of degradation, those assumptions begin to not hold true.
I think and hope that this seasons was just what the doctor ordered. Because it should help deal with CPF's other major problem other than stagnation: DELUSIONAL ARROGANCE.
Most great leaders begin soul searching when things aren't happening the way they ought to. Thus, they get things fixed -- we'll say typically -- before the siren for the bomb shelter sounds. CPF, on the otherhand, is still in denial about the problems and continues to make excuses. That attitude has fed the monster of stagnation, which leads to degradation.
Make no mistake. The 2005 version of Tennessee Football is not a fluke. It is the culmination of internal and systemic problems that have been allowed to fester the point of rupturing. These problems lie solely at the feet of the leader, Coach Fulmer. He makes $2,000,000 precisely because leaders of that ilk are rare. If he does not offer positive results in the uppermost echelon, then we have an overpaid person leading the ship, and would be better off paying an average coach $750,000 to field average teams.
Having said that, I think he is an above average coach in the totality of things; recruting is his foremost skill. With a solid staff, he can win -- and has won. But he has to look in the mirror and decide he wants it. Right now, he's backpeddling and making excuses like someone with a very fragile ego would. And until he quits protecting his own ego, I fear the changes won't be effective.
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