You were pawns.....

#51
#51
DC_Vol said:
Right.
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Best i can come up with. No one here has given me a better one. I would love to have it. I want to believe.

I am easily convinced.
I am a Grudenite.

We are all so gullible and ignorant.

We will believe anything.

Please lead me to a better conclusion o wise sage's of the message board. Speakers of reason.

Champions of troof.
 
#52
#52
burntorangeVOLffle said:
So you think Peyton just randomly texted a stranger to put in a good word for the CO job? That's the simplest explanation?

Its pretty obvious that CO was pulling out all the stops trying to persuade CBJ to take the job. Someone asked Manning, who happens to live in CO now, to put in a good word. THAT is the simplest explanation.
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That is the simplest explanation and likely exactly what happened. It wouldn't surprise me to see Manning come out in support of this hire.

Warrior is just a hard core Grudennite that is upset that Gruden was not the eventual man for the job. To rationalize why it didn't happen, he's throwing out conspiratorial nonsense.
 
#53
#53
warrior said:
Best i can come up with. No one here has given me a better one. I would love to have it. I want to believe.

I am easily convinced.
I am a Grudenite.

We are all so gullible and ignorant.

We will believe anything.

Please lead me to a better conclusion o wise sage's of the message board. Speakers of reason.

Champions of troof.
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Funny how the simplest explanation was not the go-to for most Grudenites during the search.

There were smokescreens. Complex plans to throw people off the trail.

But see my last post...the easiest explanation is that he was asked to put in a good word. It's also pretty easy to guess from who. Just speculation, but it's a pretty simple logical jump.
 
#55
#55
burntorangeVOLffle said:
CO wanted CBJ bad. The Cinci AD said he was blown away by the things they were offering him. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that someone at CO knows Manning and asked him to put in a good word.

Stop reading conspiracies into things.
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So you are saying Manning thought we would get Strong and so he told Butch he should accept the CO job.

I will try to believe that because it takes my mind of what I truly believe which is that UT botched the opportunity for the biggest hire in NCAA history that most boosters and Peyton Manning wanted and thought was done until the "required signatures" went rogue with their measly 18 million.

Thank you for giving me an alternative.
 
#56
#56
warrior said:
So you are saying Manning thought we would get Strong and so he told Butch he should accept the CO job.

I will try to believe that because it takes my mind of what I truly believe which is that UT botched the opportunity for the biggest hire in NCAA history that most boosters and Peyton Manning wanted and thought was done until the "required signatures" went rogue with their measly 18 million.

Thank you for giving me an alternative.
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Going back to the simplest explanations....

There were discussions and each side did their due diligence. Gruden decided that college was not where he wanted to be.

The second easy explanation may be that Gruden and staff was more money than we could afford to put at risk.
 
#57
#57
warrior said:
So you are saying Manning thought we would get Strong and so he told Butch he should accept the CO job.

I will try to believe that because it takes my mind of what I truly believe which is that UT botched the opportunity for the biggest hire in NCAA history that most boosters and Peyton Manning wanted and thought was done until the "required signatures" went rogue with their measly 18 million.

Thank you for giving me an alternative.
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I'm not saying Manning gave it that much thought. Someone asked him a favor to put in a good word and being the gentleman he is, obliged. There is nothing else to read into it beyond that. If Hart had asked Manning to put in a good word for any coach I'm sure he would have.

Seriously, you Grudenites that are still clinging to this need to realize the guy just wasn't serious about getting into college coaching. He may have entertained the idea briefly and explored some options. At the end of the day there was no done deal and he ultimately said "no thanks" early in the process.
 
#58
#58
burntorangeVOLffle said:
I'm not saying Manning gave it that much thought. Someone asked him a favor to put in a good word and being the gentleman he is, obliged. There is nothing else to read into it beyond that. If Hart had asked Manning to put in a good word for any coach I'm sure he would have.

Seriously, you Grudenites that are still clinging to this need to realize the guy just wasn't serious about getting into college coaching. He may have entertained the idea briefly and explored some options. At the end of the day there was no done deal and he ultimately said "no thanks" early in the process.
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So you don't think Peyton Manning was really concerned at all with the University of Tennessee coaching hire.


What planet are you from. And you call us crazy.


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#59
#59
warrior said:
He also said "the best lies have a lot of truth to them" hero.
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Actually, that's not exactly what he said. Read more closely into what he wrote.

"...that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."
 
#60
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
. If Hart had asked Manning to put in a good word for any coach I'm sure he would have.
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If you can say you are sure manning would have done Hart a favor, which I do not really even know what favor you are talking about, then I can say that I am sure Gruden was in play majorly and much later than you wish to believe. Like last night...lol

Who hires a coach and signs papers at 2:30 in the morning.

Really?
 
#62
#62
warrior said:
If you can say you are sure manning would have done Hart a favor, which I do not really even know what favor you are talking about, then I can say that I am sure Gruden was in play majorly and much later than you wish to believe. Like last night...lol

Who hires a coach and signs papers at 2:30 in the morning.

Really?
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I give up. You're right

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#64
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JimVol said:
The Gruden rumors brought about the change and they brought about the hiring of CBJ.

Before Gruden there was no method for focusing our frustration, after the Gruden Train got rolling it became a symbol for what TN Football should be and a symbol for our general unrest.

It worked for Notre Dame and it worked for us.
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The Gruden fantasy brought about change???? In what? Bad play on the field brought about a coaching change. Not a pipe dream about an announcer coaching at UT. :eek:lol: :lol: Gruden must have had one hell of a hold on these kids. Instead of letting the myth die, it is now being spun in a manner that helps all the reality blind Grudenites save face, and make an attempt to gloat.
Damn..... must be some strong stuff.
 
#65
#65
PimpVol said:
The Gruden fantasy brought about change???? In what? Bad play on the field brought about a coaching change. Not a pipe dream about an announcer coaching at UT. :eek:lol: :lol: Gruden must have had one hell of a hold on these kids. Instead of letting the myth die, it is now being spun in a manner that helps all the reality blind Grudenites save face, and make an attempt to gloat.
Damn..... must be some strong stuff.
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umm. I am not an OG dude.. I am not spinning it. I always thought that Gruden was a symbol..

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#67
#67
burntorangeVOLffle said:
CO wanted CBJ bad. The Cinci AD said he was blown away by the things they were offering him. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that someone at CO knows Manning and asked him to put in a good word.

Stop reading conspiracies into things.
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This.
 
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