Youngstown St has petition out to dismiss player involved in rape case

[volfannbama]

The governing authority already decided. The torch carrying mobs are now up.

I understand that its difficult to see the difference in "torch this guy and send him back to prison " and "id prefer he not represent my college on the football team."

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I understand that its difficult to see the difference in "torch this guy and send him back to prison " and "id prefer he not represent my college on the football team."

Or in DH's situation you want to take away somebody's opportunity to receive an education because they ****ed up when they were a child.

 

[volfannbama]

Or in DH's situation you want to take away somebody's opportunity to receive an education because they ****ed up when they were a child.

So the university of tennessee took away my opportunity to recieve an education cause i messed up as a child by not getting good grades and i wasnt good at football? Is that how that works?

 

[wmcovol]

Romans 13:1

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.

So you're God? He paid his debt that our society required. Now he should be able to get on with his life within reason. Probably shouldn't be a girl softball coach for example but his crime had nothing to do with playing sports. Lynch mobs exist on social media today.

 

[volfannbama]

So you're God? He paid his debt that our society required. Now he should be able to get on with his life within reason. Probably shouldn't be a girl softball coach for example but his crime had nothing to do with playing sports. Lynch mobs exist on social media today.

Why would you want to limit his desire to be a girls softball coach if he so desired? Are you God? He paid his debt to society right?

 

[butchna]

Or in DH's situation you want to take away somebody's opportunity to receive an education because they ****ed up when they were a child.

Do you really know the whole Daniel Hood situation? That it was his cousin? And that SHE went to bat for him when he applied to play in high school? And again BEFORE Kiffin offered? That happens here and maybe a petition doesn't even get started but you can't blame the victim in this case. No one "took away" anything from him. He did that.

 

[butchna]

Or in DH's situation you want to take away somebody's opportunity to receive an education because they ****ed up when they were a child.

He didn't miss an exit on the interstate. He participated in a gang rape.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

He didn't miss an exit on the interstate. He participated in a gang rape.

He was punished by the judicial authorities after following the lead of an older juvenile. He was accepted to participate in football at CHS and was very successful. Two D-1 head football coaches were aware of the details and decided to let him play. The victim went to bat for him. So you think he should have been petitioned off of the team and out of school by a minority, mob element of the fan base? Okay.

 

[butchna]

He was punished by the judicial authorities after following the lead of an older juvenile. He was accepted to participate in football at CHS and was very successful. Two D-1 head football coaches were aware of the details and decided to let him play. The victim went to bat for him. So you think he should have been petitioned off of the team and out of school by a minority, mob element of the fan base? Okay.

Facts not in evidence. He wasn't "petitioned off", that is a fact. I wouldn't have been outraged if that had been the outcome...just wouldn't. And backhandedly referring to the architect of this petition (how do you know she's a fan?) as a mobster is a little cheap and petty of you...imo.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Facts not in evidence. He wasn't "petitioned off", that is a fact. I wouldn't have been outraged if that had been the outcome...just wouldn't. And backhandedly referring to the architect of this petition (how do you know she's a fan?) as a mobster is a little cheap and petty of you...imo.

You are way off base. volfannbama suggested that DH should have been petitioned off of his team. I made absolutely no reference to the petition promoter at YS as a mobster or anything else. I have not even touched on the Youngstown State situation. Your reply is cheap and petty.

 

[volfannbama]

You are way off base. volfannbama suggested that DH should have been petitioned off of his team. I made absolutely no reference to the petition promoter at YS as a mobster or anything else. I have not even touched on the Youngstown State situation. Your reply is cheap and petty.

Im saying i would have supported the petition. Id rather a guy convicted in a rape not represent my team.

Would you hire Bernie Madoff as the spokesman for your investment firm omce he is released from prison?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Im saying i would have supported the petition. Id rather a guy convicted in a rape not represent my team.

Would you hire Bernie Madoff as the spokesman for your investment firm omce he is released from prison?

Ridiculous analogy comparing a job for a 70 year old crook that will never get out of prison with a former juvenile offender that has completed serving his punishment and was given an opportunity to continue improving himself with an education. If it bothers you so much he has a business that you can campaign against and he is a regular on WNML radio. He even gives out his cell number in case you want to take up his past with him directly.

 

[butchna]

You are way off base. volfannbama suggested that DH should have been petitioned off of his team. I made absolutely no reference to the petition promoter at YS as a mobster or anything else. I have not even touched on the Youngstown State situation. Your reply is cheap and petty.

Why use "mob" in conjunction with the petition, then? The THREAD'S subject is about the Youngstown case. The petitioner has every right and plenty of justification in her cause. Daniel Hood had his victim on his side which helped him. If a petition had been started and this same result occurred? Not going to lie and say a tear would have been conjured. Hood came out ahead, be content with that and save your theoretical righteous indignation.

 

[butchna]

Ridiculous analogy comparing a job for a 70 year old crook that will never get out of prison with a former juvenile offender that has completed serving his punishment and was given an opportunity to continue improving himself with an education. If it bothers you so much he has a business that you can campaign against and he is a regular on WNML radio. He even gives out his cell number in case you want to take up his past with him directly.

Good for him. So if Bernie gets parole and your pension fund wanted to hire him to manage it...any protest?

 

[volfannbama]

Ridiculous analogy comparing a job for a 70 year old crook that will never get out of prison with a former juvenile offender that has completed serving his punishment and was given an opportunity to continue improving himself with an education. If it bothers you so much he has a business that you can campaign against and he is a regular on WNML radio. He even gives out his cell number in case you want to take up his past with him directly.

The analogy is the same. You dont want to accept it cause you disagree with the cause and thats fine.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Why use "mob" in conjunction with the petition, then? The THREAD'S subject is about the Youngstown case. The petitioner has every right and plenty of justification in her cause. Daniel Hood had his victim on his side which helped him. If a petition had been started and this same result occurred? Not going to lie and say a tear would have been conjured. Hood came out ahead, be content with that and save your theoretical righteous indignation.

I used the mob analogy because that is what has been suggested as a method that should have been used to remove DH from TN's football team. He was punished. The coaches vetted him and were comfortable allowing him on the team. The victim lobbied for it. The mob mentality would have been the last resort to extend HIS punishment. I've not looked into or commented on what's right or wrong at Youngstown State. You fictionalized that I applied any label to the YS victim.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

The analogy is the same. You dont want to accept it cause you disagree with the cause and thats fine.

Justice has been served on DH. It's an impossible comparison because Madoff is spending the rest of his life in prison. A better analogy is Michael Vick. I have no problem at all that he is now promoting the ethical treatment of animals or that he was allowed to play football games. I'm glad that he too seems to have been rehabilitated after committing his crimes.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Good for him. So if Bernie gets parole and your pension fund wanted to hire him to manage it...any protest?

Pension funds are guaranteed by a government bureaucracy. Another government bureaucracy wouldn't license him to manage anybody's funds. Again, it's an invalid analogy.

 

[vols-1]

Why would they allow this liability on campus? If he gets in trouble again, the school is looking at a lawsuit in the millions.

 

[volfannbama]

Justice has been served on DH. It's an impossible comparison because Madoff is spending the rest of his life in prison. A better analogy is Michael Vick. I have no problem at all that he is now promoting the ethical treatment of animals or that he was allowed to play football games. I'm glad that he too seems to have been rehabilitated after committing his crimes.

The argument is not justice being served, the argument is do you want the person representing something you are associated with. The petition is advocating that he not be a representative of the university on the football team, not that he be sent back to prison so mob justice can be served.

 

[volfannbama]

Why would they allow this liability on campus? If he gets in trouble again, the school is looking at a lawsuit in the millions.

I been busting some bammers balls about the same thing with the saint signing johnathon taylor and dj pettway.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

The argument is not justice being served, the argument is do you want the person representing something you are associated with. The petition is advocating that he not be a representative of the university on the football team, not that he be sent back to prison so mob justice can be served.

I've made no comment on the YS situation and haven't formed an opinion. My comments relate to DH. He represented UT very well. He now does local Knoxville radio on WNML. A petition to force him off of UT's football team and out of school, one that you said should have been created, would have been wrong. The guy at YS is a walk-on paying his own way. The YS petition is about putting him off of the football team. A theoretical petition to prevent DH from playing football at UT also means taking away his education.

 

[butchna]

Pension funds are guaranteed by a government bureaucracy. Another government bureaucracy wouldn't license him to manage anybody's funds. Again, it's an invalid analogy.

So...no?

 

[butchna]

I've made no comment on the YS situation and haven't formed an opinion. My comments relate to DH. He represented UT very well. He now does local Knoxville radio on WNML. A petition to force him off of UT's football team and out of school, one that you said should have been created, would have been wrong. The guy at YS is a walk-on paying his own way. The YS petition is about putting him off of the football team. A theoretical petition to prevent DH from playing football at UT also means taking away his education.

"Would have been". Theoretically getting yourself into quite a huff aren't you?

 

[volfannbama]

I've made no comment on the YS situation and haven't formed an opinion. My comments relate to DH. He represented UT very well. He now does local Knoxville radio on WNML. A petition to force him off of UT's football team and out of school, one that you said should have been created, would have been wrong. The guy at YS is a walk-on paying his own way. The YS petition is about putting him off of the football team. A theoretical petition to prevent DH from playing football at UT also means taking away his education.

No, taking DH off the team doesnt take away his education. It means the decision he made force him to take another track, just like everyone else. As i asked before, UT didnt accept me because i messed up as a kid and didnt make good grades and i wasnt good at football. Did UT take away may chance at an education? No, i took another route.