Your most impressive Freshman today

#51
#51
Our future looks bright...............................In my opinion, Nico is gonna be lights out ! TOP SHELF !
 
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MurphyVol said:
In his prime he was, and we've got to get back to that level. Not saying we won't/can't I'm just saying we won't take the next step if we don't. JH has fixed a lot of problems and he has certainly elevated recruiting, he just hasn't hit that next level yet.

To put an exclamation point on it, last year Saban signed nine 5* players. This is roughly the same number the Vols have signed the last 20 years.
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And yet we had a 13 point lead on them in the first half. “Next step” would be a doozy if the first one has us looking better than them in 6/8 quarters…all with recruits signed under uncertainty about future sanctions.
 
#53
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butchna said:
And yet we had a 13 point lead on them in the first half. “Next step” would be a doozy if the first one has us looking better than them in 6/8 quarters…all with recruits signed under uncertainty about future sanctions.
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A good coach can pull that off from time to time and JH is a good coach. I wouldn't try to bank on consistently out-coaching Saban with less talent though.
 
#54
#54
What liked about Nico’s short stint (other than everything), was his composure, smoothness in the pocket and throwing on the run. Extrapolate that for a full game and I see NUMBERS. The TD throw was preceded by him running at the line of scrimmage and then doing a Luka Doncic step back and zipping it to Castles…very catchable in stride. He has a way better affinity for throwing to TEs imo. Shame we don’t have another season of Castles, but Ethan Davis could feast.
 
#55
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MurphyVol said:
A good coach can pull that off from time to time and JH is a good coach. I wouldn't try to bank on consistently out-coaching Saban with less talent though.
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It’s an opinion on HOW MUCH “less” tho. Bama lands all this 5 star talent yet goes to the portal for dudes the service virgin nerds didn’t regard so highly an awful lot. Pearce, Beasley and Carter/Telander are as good as anything coronated by Saban the last few classes. Now the cuffs are off…and Heupel’s still a better technician.
 
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butchna said:
It’s an opinion on HOW MUCH “less” tho. Bama lands all this 5 star talent yet goes to the portal for dudes the service virgin nerds didn’t regard so highly an awful lot. Pearce, Beasley and Carter/Telander are as good as anything coronated by Saban the last few classes. Now the cuffs are off…and Heupel’s still a better technician.
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We'll see. All things considered, I'd be pretty happy going into a Bama or Georgia game knowing we had a talent/depth advantage. Not having that against them hasn't worked out well for most SEC coaches. Yes we've added and coached up some great players but look at the depth difference. How miserable did our line look with just one guy missing (Mays).
 
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MurphyVol said:
We'll see. All things considered, I'd be pretty happy going into a Bama or Georgia game knowing we had a talent/depth advantage. Not having that against them hasn't worked out well for most SEC coaches. Yes we've added and coached up some great players but look at the depth difference. How miserable did our line look with just one guy missing (Mays).
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You take an experienced center off any OL and how great is the line? Lot of responsibility to learn under fire.
 
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butchna said:
You take an experienced center off any OL and how great is the line? Lot of responsibility to learn under fire.
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Depends on your depth. I think with everyone healthy one of our o line starters is a walk on? IIRC
 
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butchna said:
You don’t. Lane was always on scholarship.
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Gotcha. Hey I sincerely hope you're right and I'm wrong and JH can start consistently beating Kirby and Saban with lower ranked recruiting classes. I haven't seen it done yet but if JH does it he'll go down as a legendary talent developer/coach.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Gotcha. Hey I sincerely hope you're right and JH can start consistently beating Kirby and Saban with lower ranked recruiting classes. I have seen it done yet but if JH does it he'll go down as a legendary talent developer/coach.
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Truth could be closer to the middle. Recruiting bumped up by the NCAA situation resolved, yet not adherence to what service nerds coronate as the best talent. Coud more see them following their methodology of rubber stamping whomever Saban pursues. Worked for Clemson with a little success. Heupel suddenly, miraculously "recruits better" yet remains recruiting his type of players.
 
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#64
Nico; if he stays three years and stays healthy he will probably break all TN QB records and have a street named after him. Heck, maybe even if he only stays two years.

He is the type QB that makes all the players on offense even better.
 
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butchna said:
Truth could be closer to the middle. Recruiting bumped up by the NCAA situation resolved, yet not adherence to what service nerds coronate as the best talent. Coud more see them following their methodology of rubber stamping whomever Saban pursues. Worked for Clemson with a little success. Heupel suddenly, miraculously "recruits better" yet remains recruiting his type of players.
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I agree that you don't have to necessarily have the best class "on paper" if Bama signs the best rated class in the SEC and we sign the 2-3rd best....that's a wash. There are always players that aren't evaluated correctly, even in the NFL. But if Bama signs the best class 3 years in a row and we sign the 6-7th rated class three years in a row ...that's gets hard to overcome.
 
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MurphyVol said:
In his prime he was, and we've got to get back to that level. Not saying we won't/can't I'm just saying we won't take the next step if we don't. JH has fixed a lot of problems and he has certainly elevated recruiting, he just hasn't hit that next level yet.

To put an exclamation point on it, last year Saban signed nine 5* players. This is roughly the same number the Vols have signed the last 20 years.
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10-12 win seasons help
 
#67
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MurphyVol said:
I agree that you don't have to necessarily have the best class "on paper" if Bama signs the best rated class in the SEC and we sign the 2-3rd best....that's a wash. There are always players that aren't evaluated correctly, even in the NFL. But if Bama signs the best class 3 years in a row and we sign the 6-7th rated class three years in a row ...that's gets hard to overcome.
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Percentage points don’t score points or prevent them.
 
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butchna said:
Truth could be closer to the middle. Recruiting bumped up by the NCAA situation resolved, yet not adherence to what service nerds coronate as the best talent. Coud more see them following their methodology of rubber stamping whomever Saban pursues. Worked for Clemson with a little success. Heupel suddenly, miraculously "recruits better" yet remains recruiting his type of players.
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Nailed it.
 
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#69
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Honestly? Patrick Wilk. Dude can fly 😆. Reminds of that running back at Clemson.
 
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OldVolMan said:
Nico; if he stays three years and stays healthy he will probably break all TN QB records and have a street named after him. Heck, maybe even if he only stays two years.

He is the type QB that makes all the players on offense even better.
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Gonna rename the stadium too.
 
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