Zak Herbstreit hospitalized

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Dislike the father, but best of luck to the young man.

Sounds like a cardiological kind of thing so hopefully it is something which can be controlled. There's a whole world out there outside the football field.
 
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Fightmaker said:
No, it couldn’t have possibly been that.
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You are right, it possibly couldn't have been vaccines. There has been no significant increase in heart conditions over the period of last two years. Remember in US nearly 230 million people are fully vaccinated. If even 1% showed heightened heart failure rate that 2.3 million heart cases increase, half % if 1.15 million .. do you really think that many people would go unnoticed ? Also, nearly 3 billion people have been vaccinated across the globe ... imagine any significant side effect to even a 1% or half % .. we would have 30 million to 15 million people with increased medical emergencies .. do you think these people are just hiding somewhere ?

Do not be part of media fear mongering or fabricated content by people for likes/views. Look for scientific studies, peer reviewed work not podcasters and news channels.
 
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davethevol said:
Well, lots of college athletes were required to take a vaccine….
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The cause of a lot of heart issues in that age group is drinking too many energy drinks. Our High School lost a young man to a heart attack last year, and the coroner's report determined it was caused by him drinking nine large Monsters in just a few hours. People just assume they are safe, but they are hard on your Cardio-Pulmonary system when drinking too many. I wouldn't drink more than a couple a day.

My son was having elevated BP, and our doctor told him to quit drinking them. His BP has improved 100%.

My first cousin died of a coronary on a long-distance haul last fall, He drank 11 out of a 12-pack in the few hours prior. He was a bit out of the age-range, but it's a problem.

Guarana, taurine and L-carnitine all intensify the effect of the caffeine, so a large can is like 3-6 large cups of coffee in some people's system.
 
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volmandu said:
You are right, it possibly couldn't have been vaccines. There has been no significant increase in heart conditions over the period of last two years. Remember in US nearly 230 million people are fully vaccinated. If even 1% showed heightened heart failure rate that 2.3 million heart cases increase, half % if 1.15 million .. do you really think that many people would go unnoticed ? Also, nearly 3 billion people have been vaccinated across the globe ... imagine any significant side effect to even a 1% or half % .. we would have 30 million to 15 million people with increased medical emergencies .. do you think these people are just hiding somewhere ?

Do not be part of media fear mongering or fabricated content by people for likes/views. Look for scientific studies, peer reviewed work not podcasters and news channels.
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I mean, a fewer percentage than that caught it and actually died from it, and we shut down the entire planet. But that’s neither here nor there, I guess.
 
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volmandu said:
You are right, it possibly couldn't have been vaccines. There has been no significant increase in heart conditions over the period of last two years. Remember in US nearly 230 million people are fully vaccinated. If even 1% showed heightened heart failure rate that 2.3 million heart cases increase, half % if 1.15 million .. do you really think that many people would go unnoticed ? Also, nearly 3 billion people have been vaccinated across the globe ... imagine any significant side effect to even a 1% or half % .. we would have 30 million to 15 million people with increased medical emergencies .. do you think these people are just hiding somewhere ?

Do not be part of media fear mongering or fabricated content by people for likes/views. Look for scientific studies, peer reviewed work not podcasters and news channels.
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They've outright stated young people have an increased risk of myocardial issues after vaccination so...
 
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Ttucke11 said:
They've outright stated young people have an increased risk of myocardial issues after vaccination so...
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Increased risk and significant risk is not the same think. Example: 1 in a million is increased risk but not a significant one. Please share the study where increased risk from myocardial issues in kids is higher from vaccine than getting COVID itself. I will be glad to change my opinion post that.
 
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davethevol said:
Well, lots of college athletes were required to take a vaccine….
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I too was forced to get the vaccine, but yet i have no heart/cardio issues. I also have COPD & sleep apnea ( way before covid). But oddly enough, wearing a mask does not restrict my breathing.


I do have a question for all the conspiracy theorists: when you had to get mandatory vaccines for school or when you joined the military, did you all whine, cry, bitch & pitch your hissy fits back then too?
 
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volmandu said:
Increased risk and significant risk is not the same think. Example: 1 in a million is increased risk but not a significant one. Please share the study where increased risk from myocardial issues in kids is higher from vaccine than getting COVID itself. I will be glad to change my opinion post that.
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I never said it was. What does sharing a study on that prove? One is by chance the other is by choice. Not everyone gets COVID and if they do it could be once or twice. If you get multiple boosters you're multiplying your chance of risk.

Also please share a study that says young people are at ANY let alone an increased risk of having complications from COVID.

But don't call it misinformation when it's been clearly stated there is an increased risk for young males after vaccination. That ship has sailed.
 
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the_todd said:
I too was forced to get the vaccine, but yet i have no heart/cardio issues. I also have COPD & sleep apnea ( way before covid). But oddly enough, wearing a mask does not restrict my breathing.


I do have a question for all the conspiracy theorists: when you had to get mandatory vaccines for school or when you joined the military, did you all whine, cry, bitch & pitch your hissy fits back then too?
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No. Most of those had more than 6 months of testing and prevented me from actually getting and dying of polio.

This vaccine does the great job of preventing transmission, infection, hospitalizion, and death. Oh yea, it doesn't prevent any of those things my bad.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
I never said it was. What does sharing a study on that prove? One is by chance the other is by choice. Not everyone gets COVID and if they do it could be once or twice. If you get multiple boosters you're multiplying your chance of risk.

Also please share a study that says young people are at ANY let alone an increased risk of having complications from COVID.

But don't call it misinformation when it's been clearly stated there is an increased risk for young males after vaccination. That ship has sailed.
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Incidence of myopericarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination: A meta-analysis with focus on adolescents aged 12–17 years - ScienceDirect

Summary:

Risk of myocarditis among youth after COVID vaccine was NO HIGHER than among other vaccines, extremely low. But risk of myocarditis after COVID infection was much higher than from vaccines.


Many such real scientific studies if you just search scholarly articles and not misinformation on social media.
 
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the_todd said:
I too was forced to get the vaccine, but yet i have no heart/cardio issues. I also have COPD & sleep apnea ( way before covid). But oddly enough, wearing a mask does not restrict my breathing.


I do have a question for all the conspiracy theorists: when you had to get mandatory vaccines for school or when you joined the military, did you all whine, cry, bitch & pitch your hissy fits back then too?
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I actually have the vaccine, double boosted, and I think nothing of it. I don’t fear any cardio problems or otherwise. But people are extremely naive to believe there is 100% safety in something that was that thrown together in record time, and we have the word of our own government as proof. They lied to us numerous times, about masks, the efficacy of the vaccine, etc. So if somebody tells me that there might be a connection to some peculiar deaths, I don’t immediately dismiss them out of hand as a nutjob.
 
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