Zeigler's 3pt shooting

#51
#51
I would prefer that people not be rude and disrespectful toward our players, especially that guy! With all his family has been through and how much of a VFL that guy is, why would anyone be anything but respectful to him?

"I want to preface this by saying" a another way of saying I don't want you to think I am an ass but I am gonna be an ass toward this guy.
I don't see anything rude or disrespectful about his post, and I'm the biggest Z fan there is. We all wonder what's up with his shooting and hope he bounces back soon.

Can we just discuss his shooting woes? That's the intent of the thread.
 
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#52
If you have to say "want to preface this" or :with that said" or "with all due respect" then you probably should think of a different way to express the thought.

Maybe something like "I wonder what is wrong with ZZ shot? His 3 % is down 9 points and his shots per game are up. I would love to see him make more or shoot a little less until his shot comes back"
Kid hasn't really shot all that well his entire time on Rocky Top. Under 40% overall every year.

BTW, where do you get 9% from 34.4 to 29.7? I mean, I was never really good at math.
 
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I love how people get bent outta shape over wording in a post.

Just read the #$+&#! Post and if you want to discuss the topic at hand, then discuss it. If not, don't.

Dissecting semantics is annoying.
You should probably say something more like I am not a fan of discussing the wording more than the substance.
 
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#57
Definitely not, especially the second half of Chandler’s year here. Chandler started finishing at the rim far better that second half.

Chandler’s speed got him to the rim often. But he wasn’t very reliable at finishing. ZZ’s shot attempts have been more difficult for defenses to stop. Part of that is that ZZ has learned when not to force his shots.
 
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#59
Simply put... He's fine. Some shooters are streaky. No cause for concern in December!!
Easy to say that but when you look at the numbers and contrast it with last season there is definitely cause for alarm. Hope he figures it out and I think he will because you don't just forget how to shoot...most likely a small mechanical issue that can be fixed with some reps.
 
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#60
Agree he has always been a bit streaky but I don't ever recall him going this long while shooting this poorly. In his last 7 games he only shot over 30% 1 time (3/8 or 38%) but, to your point, he shot real well in games 2 to 4 (10/15 or 67%). For reference, last year he had 3 games in a row under 33% early in the season but at no other point had 2 consecutive games where he shot below 33%. Also, last year he only had 7 games where he shot 30% or less with more than 1 attempt - this year he already has 6 of those games.

I love ZZ and I know he is working his tail off - I just hope this is not a trend and it means he is due to go on an extended heater where he shoots lights out. GBO
 
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#61
Easy to say that but when you look at the numbers and contrast it with last season there is definitely cause for alarm. Hope he figures it out and I think he will because you don't just forget how to shoot...most likely a small mechanical issue that can be fixed with some reps.
Something happened with Vescovi’s outside shot last season following 3 consistently solid seasons. Hopefully we won’t see similar with ZZZ and Igor who’s also not shooting at his historical percentages. Without a true post scorer, our defense and outside shooting is going to be what carries this team. IMO
 
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#62
All what you said is true. I think everyone IS enjoying it. Doesn't stop us from wondering what's up with Ziegler's shot. It's just something to discuss among fans in December.

As for Z, I think it's just a slump and he'll come out of it just fine at some point. Hopefully sooner than later.
I agree 100%, and I truly could not resist my reply. I would not have commented, especially the way I did, had the OP not phrased his post the way he did. I do honestly find it hard to understand why it is necessary to find something to complain about with the unheard-of wealth of UT athletics. In the 80's, I dealt with the most conservative football coach imaginable with Johnny Majors; the basketball coach was Don DeVoe, who literally ran the four corners offense the entire second half of a couple of games. The one main bright spot was the Lady Vols for excitement. I even had an acquaintance on the team, so got a little bit of insider insight from how the mind of Pat Summit worked. This era is amazing to me.
 
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#63
He'll end up at 33/34%, as always, and have some bad misses along the way, the worst being when he forces them up from outside his comfortable range.
 
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#64
Chandler’s speed got him to the rim often. But he wasn’t very reliable at finishing. ZZ’s shot attempts have been more difficult for defenses to stop. Part of that is that ZZ has learned when not to force his shots.
I don’t agree at all. The first half of KC’s year is maybe agree but not the second half. He was our best offensive player and learned how to finish. ZZ has generally not finished well at the time due to his height. That’s my opinion anyway. As another poster said, I have no facts to back it up nor will I chase any as it’s not important. We will just agree to disagree on this one.
 
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Something happened with Vescovi’s outside shot last season following 3 consistently solid seasons. Hopefully we won’t see similar with ZZZ and Igor who’s also not shooting at his historical percentages. Without a true post scorer, our defense and outside shooting is going to be what carries this team. IMO
Did we ever hear what happened to Vescovi’s shot that year? There was speculation about injuries or whatnot but I don’t ever remember hearing anything definitive.
 
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Did we ever hear what happened to Vescovi’s shot that year? There was speculation about injuries or whatnot but I don’t ever remember hearing anything definitive.
I never heard anything but statistically it made no sense without there being some extenuating circumstance.
 
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Something happened with Vescovi’s outside shot last season following 3 consistently solid seasons. Hopefully we won’t see similar with ZZZ and Igor who’s also not shooting at his historical percentages. Without a true post scorer, our defense and outside shooting is going to be what carries this team. IMO
I’d like to know SVs thoughts on his shooting his last year. Was it playing a different role, not getting enough shots in off season etc.? Very curious his thoughts.
Like Billy Madison, I really contributed nothing to your discussion. But unlike him, hopefully you and everyone in this room isn’t dumber for listening to it. 😂
 
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Something happened with Vescovi’s outside shot last season following 3 consistently solid seasons. Hopefully we won’t see similar with ZZZ and Igor who’s also not shooting at his historical percentages. Without a true post scorer, our defense and outside shooting is going to be what carries this team. IMO
Santi's poor shooting last season still blows my mind. If ZZ's struggles continue that will be a very strange and frustrating coincidence.

Re: Igor...I am still optimistic his avg goes up. I assume the IL game was an anomaly (esp since everybody struggled except Gainey & then only in the 2nd half).
 
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#74
Senioritis
I don't think so given we know his dream was to play in the NBA and shooting <33% was a sure fire way to kill any hope he had. Also, one would think a senioritis mentality would affect his defense as well since he arguably had his best season on D. Lastly, we know CRB doesn't play around - Santi would have been watching from the bench if senioritis was the case as that would definitely show up off the court in the workouts and locker room interactions.
 
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