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#52
#52
bleedingTNorange said:
In less you're going golden/ moore, McRae, Richardson, reese, stokes/Yemi/hall
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Maybe, but that's not what I would call normal personel. Also, I think you might need to get over Moore, for at least this season. I don't think he is going to see the floor much the rest of the way, no matter what defense UT runs.
 
#53
#53
The bleedingorange guy was wrong, the horn didnt go off till AFTER the 0 had disappeared. The horn had it right, it was counting the tenths of a second when the 0 was visible. Just becaise it says 0, it doesnt mean .9, .8 etc doesnt exist.
 
#55
#55
omghulkhands said:
It doesn't have decimals so it isn't a debate. They got it wrong. Period.
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Actually if the clock doesn't have decimals it's supposed to be the light and the horn (the horn being difficult to distinguish in slow motion). I don't think he gets it off in time either way, but I believe the guy is right about the shot clock showing '0' before the shot clock actually expires. Vandy got burned by their own decision to not upgrade to shot-clocks that show tenths of a second.
 
#56
#56
Vol8188 said:
One thing I promise to never do, I will never tell CCM how to coach defense.

How to shoot a ball, move the ball, use screens and backdoor cuts are all possibilities.

But I think he can take care of the d himself.
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That's what she said :eek:lol::loco::pepper:
 
#57
#57
bleedingTNorange said:
What I said was that the clock didn't go off simultaneously with the clock striking 0, there was a delay. From everything ive heard 0 means 0, not 0.9. That's why, if you watch the ball and listen for the buzzer, the buzzer goes off while ball is in the hand.

Shot clock violation by definition.
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I think on some of those clocks 0 on the clock does mean 0.9, that's why the horn and light are the deciding factor.
 
#58
#58
zansdad said:
Maybe, but that's not what I would call normal personel. Also, I think you might need to get over Moore, for at least this season. I don't think he is going to see the floor much the rest of the way, no matter what defense UT runs.
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I agree. Golden, McRae, Richardson, Reese and Stokes would work well though on both ends and using a 2-3 on D I think.
 
#59
#59
ChiliDog said:
The bleedingorange guy was wrong, the horn didnt go off till AFTER the 0 had disappeared. The horn had it right, it was counting the tenths of a second when the 0 was visible. Just becaise it says 0, it doesnt mean .9, .8 etc doesnt exist.
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Thats what I said, are you kidding? The horn didn't go off simultaneously when the clock hit zero, that's exactly what I said, that there was a delay. So, the horn was the decision factor and what was 0, and if you watch the ball and listen for the horn...the ball was in Noel's hand when the horn sounded.

Thus...shot clock violation by the exact definition, this really shouldn't be this complicated.
 
#60
#60
Now that we have a thread going on how CCM should play defense, what's next?

A thread to teach CP how to run and cut?

Maybe a thread to teach Dooley how to lose, or teach Saban how to win?

I've got it! For the next thread we'll teach McCullers how to over eat!
 
#61
#61
bleedingTNorange said:
I agree. Golden, McRae, Richardson, Reese and Stokes would work well though on both ends and using a 2-3 on D I think.
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Richardson and Reese would have to rebound their tails off, but it's not a bad line-up. Plus you could sub Edwards into that mix down low, and it would help protect the 3 guys that seem to always be in foul trouble (Stokes, Yemi, and Hall).
 
#62
#62
zansdad said:
I think on some of those clocks 0 on the clock does mean 0.9, that's why the horn and light are the deciding factor.
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That's what I was trying to say, poor wording in my part.

If it says 0 there may be a delay, the light and horn should be at 0.0 though. That's why I've been saying, horn went off and ball is in his hand, so still a violation.
 
#63
#63
bleedingTNorange said:
Thats what I said, are you kidding? The horn didn't go off simultaneously when the clock hit zero, that's exactly what I said, that there was a delay. So, the horn was the decision factor and what was 0, and if you watch the ball and listen for the horn...the ball was in Noel's hand when the horn sounded.

Thus...shot clock violation by the exact definition, this really shouldn't be this complicated.
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Is there are slow motion replay that has the horn in it?
 
#64
#64
zansdad said:
Richardson and Reese would have to rebound their tails off, but it's not a bad line-up. Plus you could sub Edwards into that mix down low, and it would help protect the 3 guys that seem to always be in foul trouble (Stokes, Yemi, and Hall).
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Golden, McRae and Richardson are all pretty good rebounded for their position, so it may work who knows.

I'd Atleast try it.
 
#65
#65
Vol8188 said:
Now that we have a thread going on how CCM should play defense, what's next?

A thread to teach CP how to run and cut?

Maybe a thread to teach Dooley how to lose, or teach Saban how to win?

I've got it! For the next thread we'll teach McCullers how to over eat!
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I've been/and sill am a huge CCM supporter, but his Defense hasn't been much to brag about the past few games.
 
#67
#67
bleedingTNorange said:
That's what I was trying to say, poor wording in my part.

If it says 0 there may be a delay, the light and horn should be at 0.0 though. That's why I've been saying, horn went off and ball is in his hand, so still a violation.
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It's interesting to debate, but in all reality I don't care whether he got it off in time. It was fun to see Stallings go crazy at that POS they call a gym. IF Vandy upgraded to the 21st century with the rest of us, they wouldn't have had the problem.

The worst part of the whole thing is listening to Knight try to wrap his head around the shot clock. The man has forgotten more about coaching than most will ever know but sadly, I think he is starting to lose it a bit. The part where he was drawing on the white board earlier was almost painful to watch. And how many times are they going to let him harp on, "when I coached,we had a rule that against a zone you couldn't dribble and pass in the same direction" or anything similar.
 
#68
#68
zansdad said:
It's interesting to debate, but in all reality I don't care whether he got it off in time. It was fun to see Stallings go crazy at that POS they call a gym. IF Vandy upgraded to the 21st century with the rest of us, they wouldn't have had the problem.

The worst part of the whole thing is listening to Knight try to wrap his head around the shot clock. The man has forgotten more about coaching than most will ever know but sadly, I think he is starting to lose it a bit. The part where he was drawing on the white board earlier was almost painful to watch. And how many times are they going to let him harp on, "when I coached,we had a rule that against a zone you couldn't dribble and pass in the same direction" or anything similar.
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I wish they didn't have him do this, it's sad and kind of ruining his legacy.
 
#69
#69
bleedingTNorange said:
Not that I've seen.

This video has the horn, but it's in regular motion not slow. You can clearly hear the horn going off while the 0 is still lit up though.

Vanderbilt gets robbed - YouTube
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The only way to know is watch the shot clock when it first hit 0 and see what the game clock says. Then use the tenths of a second on the game clock to see if a full second expires before he lets go of the ball. I have seen some pro-UK sites arguing that only about .6 runs off which would mean he gets it off in time. I can't get the video to play where I am so I can't check right now.
 
#70
#70
bleedingTNorange said:
Golden, McRae and Richardson are all pretty good rebounded for their position, so it may work who knows.

I'd Atleast try it.
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McRae and Golden would help, but Richardson would have to quit being a good rebounder for his position and become a good rebounder for a post player. I bit different argument but like you said, it's worth a try. It's better than watching people getting blown by now.
 
#71
#71
bleedingTNorange said:
I wish they didn't have him do this, it's sad and kind of ruining his legacy.
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did you see the part where he was drawing on the white board? he was drawing below the line of the camera, so Davis flipped it over so his drawing would be seen. Knight just looked at him funny and started drawing on the 'new' bottom of the board. The camera guy finally had to crank he camera down far enough for it to be seen. Davis just had this "oh well I tried" look on his face.
 
#72
#72
zansdad said:
did you see the part where he was drawing on the white board? he was drawing below the line of the camera, so Davis flipped it over so his drawing would be seen. Knight just looked at him funny and started drawing on the 'new' bottom of the board. The camera guy finally had to crank he camera down far enough for it to be seen. Davis just had this "oh well I tried" look on his face.
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Yea knight isn't meant for the camera, or microphone.
 
#73
#73
Stoked4Zo said:
Idk if anyone watched that game but that no call on the shot clock violation was ridiculous. Vandy and UK should have went into OT.
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Alabama is the precious darling in football & Kentucky in basketball. No ref would DARE risk them losing a game by making a close call in a close game go against them!
 
#74
#74
Stoked4Zo said:
Idk if anyone watched that game but that no call on the shot clock violation was ridiculous. Vandy and UK should have went into OT.
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Alabama is the precious darling in football & Kentucky in basketball. No ref would DARE risk them losing a game by making a close call in a close game go against them!
 
#75
#75
volboy81 said:
Alabama is the precious darling in football & Kentucky in basketball. No ref would DARE risk them losing a game by making a close call in a close game go against them!
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I have a feeling you didnt watch the game, because if you did, you would have seen the make up call with 6 seconds left. The inbounded ball was CLEARLY off a Vandy player, but they gave it to Vandy as a peace treaty. It was so obvious that the commentators didnt even comment, they just sat quietly.
 
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