The Section 103 Postgame Report - Belmont

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#302
NVC is correct. I for some reason was shorting UNC a title. Probably still amazed that Michigan managed to lose to the bunch of stiffs UNC put on the floor for the '93 finals.
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#303
notverycrucial said:
HATVOL is AWOL. Probably off in some dank gym fiddling with his blackberry in one hand and his scout sheet in the other, LOL. Maybe someone else can answer this question for us until Hat comes back in?

Please name any and all teams (apparently, there's a bunch) that have as many national titles as UNC over the past 30 years?
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I'm actually glad I made that mistake. I allowed me to conform you are yet another bandwagon UNC honk. It's good to see who those folks are. I can than just disregard what they have to say and move on.
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hatvol96 said:
I'm actually glad I made that mistake. I allowed me to conform you are yet another bandwagon UNC honk. It's good to see who those folks are. I can than just disregard what they have to say and move on.
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That post makes no sense.

And the part in bold, I'm willing to bet, is 100% wrong.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Wisconsin and Gonzaga are real powerhouses.
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If Tennessee last year had beaten Gonzaga, then Wisconsin, then Georgetown, and then held Kansas under 60 points, you'd have been so happy you could've stopped taking Cialis for at least a month.
 
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TennNC said:
If Tennessee last year had beaten Gonzaga, then Wisconsin, then Georgetown, and then held Kansas under 60 points, you'd have been so happy you could've stopped taking Cialis for at least a month.
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Good to see you're every bit as inept at humor as you are analyzing basketball. I wouldn't have been joyous. Losing an Elite Eight game because your offense is so putrid it can't get to 60 is no reason for a parade.
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hatvol96 said:
I'm actually glad I made that mistake. I allowed me to conform you are yet another bandwagon UNC honk. It's good to see who those folks are. I can than just disregard what they have to say and move on.
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Dude, I love your online schtick, but no way you're this bitter in real life. Maybe we should call you Hatervol?
I've got no agenda here. I'm not bashing or defending one program over another. All I did was point out an obvious FACT that ran counter to your BS declaration earlier in this thread. You were wrong, you got called out. How did you respond? By throwing sand in our faces (as usual).

And to finally answer the question that you refuse to: there's only one program that has as many NCAA titles as North Carolina over the past 30 years. It's Duke.

Multiple NCAA Titles (Since 1979)
North Carolina (2005,1993,1982)
Duke (2001,1992,1991)
Kansas (2008,1988)
Florida (2007,2006)
UConn (2004,1999)
Mich St (2000,1979)
Kentucky (1998,1996)
Indiana (1987,1981)
Louisville (1986,1980)
 
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notverycrucial said:
Dude, I love your online schtick, but no way you're this bitter in real life. Maybe we should call you Hatervol?
I've got no agenda here. I'm not bashing or defending one program over another. All I did was point out an obvious FACT that ran counter to your BS declaration earlier in this thread. You were wrong, you got called out. How did you respond? By throwing sand in our faces (as usual).

And to finally answer the question that you refuse to: there's only one program that has as many NCAA titles as North Carolina over the past 30 years. It's Duke.

Multiple NCAA Titles (Since 1979)
North Carolina (2005,1993,1982)
Duke (2001,1992,1991)
Kansas (2008,1988)
Florida (2007,2006)
UConn (2004,1999)
Mich St (2000,1979)
Kentucky (1998,1996)
Indiana (1987,1981)
Louisville (1986,1980)
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Not that it really matters to me but you ask a guy for his input then you turn around, disagree with him. If you don't want an unbiased opinion you shouldn't ask for one. Obviously your mind was made up prior to your even asking. I think you are confusing knowledge and schtick.
 
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#310
TennNC said:
Then why was he selected second overall in the 2002 NBA draft?

Does that further exhibit the value of NBA scouts?
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Michael Olowokandi was a 1st pick overall. It only takes one organization making a poor evaluation for a colossal mistake to occur. Also, it's not like the class Williams was drafted in was on par with the Iverson/Allen et al group.
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TennNC said:
Then why was he selected second overall in the 2002 NBA draft?

Does that further exhibit the value of NBA scouts?
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Sam Bowie was picked over MJ because the Blazers had Drexler.

What does being selected second have to do with anything?
 
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utfantilidie said:
Not that it really matters to me but you ask a guy for his input then you turn around, disagree with him. If you don't want an unbiased opinion you shouldn't ask for one. Obviously your mind was made up prior to your even asking. I think you are confusing knowledge and schtick.
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I think you are confusing opinion and fact.
 
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#314
JZVOL said:
Sam Bowie was picked over MJ because the Blazers had Drexler.

What does being selected second have to do with anything?
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follow the bouncing ball.

my pt was that apparently some NBA scouts (maybe Hat's friends) thought, unlike Hat, that Jay Williams would be a good NBA player.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Michael Olowokandi was a 1st pick overall. It only takes one organization making a poor evaluation for a colossal mistake to occur. Also, it's not like the class Williams was drafted in was on par with the Iverson/Allen et al group.
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and what is your evidence that Jay Williams had zero chance of being a quality NBA player?

Other than the fact that he was lightening quick, could dribble like nobody's business, took approximately .0001 sec to get off a shot, was certainly strong enough for a pt guard, and had about as much hops as any player his size, I suppose you have a point.
 
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TennNC said:
and what is your evidence that Jay Williams had zero chance of being a quality NBA player?
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The fact that he was utterly atrocious before he was injured. Just another undersized guy who the league was going to eat alive.
 
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TennNC said:
and what is your evidence that Jay Williams had zero chance of being a quality NBA player?

Other than the fact that he was lightening quick, could dribble like nobody's business, took approximately .0001 sec to get off a shot, was certainly strong enough for a pt guard, and had about as much hops as any player his size, I suppose you have a point.
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You just described 99% of the NBA players.
 
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#318
TennNC said:
follow the bouncing ball.

my pt was that apparently some NBA scouts (maybe Hat's friends) thought, unlike Hat, that Jay Williams would be a good NBA player.
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And some scouts liked Leaf better than Manning etc.

It's easy to say after the fact a guy stood zero chance to be good.

Nobody really knows until the player is playing on the pro level.
 
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kidbourbon said:
exception, meet rule.
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How's that an exception to the rule?

Guys flop at the top of the draft every year, while players selected later go on to have great careers.

Nick Van Exel was picked 37th in the '93 draft.

Calbert Cheaney went 6th, Rex Walters was picked 16th, Shawn Bradley 2nd.. John Best from Tennesse Tech was picked one spot ahead of Van Exel.
 
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hatvol96 said:
The fact that he was utterly atrocious before he was injured. Just another undersized guy who the league was going to eat alive.
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like Steve Nash.

and Chris Paul.

and your favorite, Rajon Rondo.

what were those NBA scouts thinking? Why didn't you warn them back then?
 
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#322
JZVOL said:
And some scouts liked Leaf better than Manning etc.

It's easy to say after the fact a guy stood zero chance to be good.

Nobody really knows until the player is playing on the pro level.
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What point are you making?

I think you missed the point of the conversation.
 
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TennNC said:
like Steve Nash.

and Chris Paul.

and your favorite, Rajon Rondo.

what were those NBA scouts thinking? Why didn't you warn them back then?
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Comparing Jay Williams to any of those guys is laughable. Rondo was a plus defender from the moment he stepped on an NBA floor. Williams was a turnstile. Williams was Dee Brown with hype. Nothing more.
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TennNC said:
like Steve Nash.

and Chris Paul.

and your favorite, Rajon Rondo.

what were those NBA scouts thinking? Why didn't you warn them back then?
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The list of complete busts at Williams' size would crash this site with its volume. Good job finding three to counterbalance those.
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#325
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hatvol96 said:
Comparing Jay Williams to any of those guys is laughable. Rondo was a plus defender from the moment he stepped on an NBA floor. Williams was a turnstile. Williams was Dee Brown with hype. Nothing more.
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He certainly wasn't a pass first PG, which most of the undersized guys are, with the uberquick being exceptions (Tiny, KJ and AI). I'm a JWill fan, but be wasn't ever going to be a great PG. He was going to score at the NBA level, but never defend and never be a floor general.
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