Non-Lady Vol Basketball News 2024-25

[chuckiepoo]

Well, there was that time in College. Wait, that was something else. Move along.

 

[Ladyvols4ever!]

What? It wasn't billed as such. You know those things are illegal

 

[maple]

It's all about the money. I am not sure if this says, 'I am a team player' or 'I am going to be the star so step back girls on the team'. I know Juju came in and survived but it doesn't always work out. I think she will be a distraction for us, so I am hoping she doesn't pick us. Someone will come up with it or be close.

MSN

According to On3, Chavez is COMMANDING a financial package valued at $1.5 million. The report also adds that she is favoring the Oklahoma Sooners and Texas Longhorns ahead of fellow finalists South Carolina, Texas Tech and UCLA, and will make her final decision on Tuesday, March 25.

Maybe in my old age of late 30s I'm just getting grumpy, but I cannot imagine the audacity of "demanding" a NIL of $1.5 million when you haven't even WON anything in college yet.

It would be foolish to pay this, IMO. What if she gets injured and has to sit out a season -- or more? What if doesn't even up being the greatest thing since sliced bread? No offense to this young lady and I wish her the best of luck with her collegiate career, but let's be realistic here. Prove yourself first. Then you can ask for all the $ and more.

 

[lvocd]

Maybe in my old age of late 30s I'm just getting grumpy, but I cannot imagine the audacity of "demanding" a NIL of $1.5 million when you haven't even WON anything in college yet.

It would be foolish to pay this, IMO. What if she gets injured and has to sit out a season -- or more? What if doesn't even up being the greatest thing since sliced bread? No offense to this young lady and I wish her the best of luck with her collegiate career, but let's be realistic here. Prove yourself first. Then you can ask for all the $ and more.

Amen! The whole thing is obscene.

 

[Ladyvols4ever!]

Check this out. If true, then I'm at a loss as to who would be hired. Smith at Cal used the interest from Missouri as a "parlay to an extension."

 

[Poultrygeist]

Well actually.

For sports, USC always has been and always will be USC. S. Carolina is S. Carolina.

But, for the institutions themselves. I guess, call it what you will. However, S. Carolina did not form as USC in 1801. It was South Carolina College. So if they want the SCC abbreviation, it's all theirs. It bounced around between "South Carolina College", "University of South Carolina", and "South Carolina College of Agriculture and Mechanics" and closing down completely for a couple years in there, until finally in 1906 if finally settled on "University of South Carolina".

USC started as USC in 1880. And still is.

Current logo:

 

[Ladyvols4ever!]

 

[Scotty4lvs]

If that's true... interesting... She had that final four but since then Arizona has been basically a revolving door of players and sustained mediocrity.

 

[Ladyvols4ever!]

If that's true... interesting... She had that final four but since then Arizona has been basically a revolving door of players and sustained mediocrity.

I've seen this hire before at Auburn. I think we'll see another Terri Williams-Flournoy.

 

[1reVOLver]

I thought that was named after KY's state sport. Am I wrong?

I always thought that was Mitch McConnell.

 

[Ladyvols4ever!]

This is hilarious.

 

[Lucy]

Wow! Let’s go hire a dumpster fire!! War Eagle!

 

[lvocd]

Wow! Let’s go hire a dumpster fire!! War Eagle!

Lucy, that's what I was thinking. I remember reading some stuff about her behavior a couple of years ago that was concerning.

 

[meyers7]

Current logo:

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So they're lying about it, huh? Not only do they lie about being USC, they lie about when they became "USC". Figures. What you'd expect from their kind.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

I sincerely apologize for thinking Kellie was the better choice over Kara for Lady Vols HC all those years ago.

Duke proved it really is smarter.

Congrats Kara on the ACC Tourney Title. An old school clampdown!

No apology necessary, compare their results, you were right. Since the 2016-17 season, there have been 7 NCAA National Championship tournaments, one was cancelled due to covid. Four Coaches won the 7 Championships, Dawn Staley 3, Kim Mulkey 2 (one at Baylor, one at LSU), Tara VanDevere 1, and Muffet McGraw 1. Kellie Harper has beaten 3 of those 4 Coaches.

To compare Conference results:

Kara Lawson:

2020-21: cancelled Conference season due to covid

2021-22: Finished 10th in Conference, did not make NCAA Tournament

2022-23: Tied for 2nd in Conference, 2nd round in NCAAT

2023-24: Tied for 7th in Conference, Sweet 16

2024-25: 3rd in Conference



Kellie Harper:

2019-20: Tied for 3rd in Conference, NCAAT cancelled due to covid

2020-21: 3rd in Conference, 2nd round in NCAAT

2021-22: 3rd in Conference, Sweet 16

2022-23: 3rd in Conference, Sweet 16

2023-24: Tied for 4th in Conference, 2nd round in NCAAT


The last 3 NCAA Championships were won by a team in the SEC, teams Kellie played every year.

 

[Rooster1]

Maybe in my old age of late 30s I'm just getting grumpy, but I cannot imagine the audacity of "demanding" a NIL of $1.5 million when you haven't even WON anything in college yet.

It would be foolish to pay this, IMO. What if she gets injured and has to sit out a season -- or more? What if doesn't even up being the greatest thing since sliced bread? No offense to this young lady and I wish her the best of luck with her collegiate career, but let's be realistic here. Prove yourself first. Then you can ask for all the $ and more.

How much $ do you think Strong got paid last season when signing with Uconn?

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

Maple, these NIL social media stories are all over the place. I genuinely think this player and her family is being misrepresented by these accounts of demanding 1.5 million. Even if there’s truth to the story, I believe some context is being excluded.
Right now, the two most popular players in HS are the Pauldo twins. I’m not talking just social media and their YouTube series which has over million views but actual NIL deals with their portfolio ranging from Nissan, Lego, Overtime, McDonald’s, Puma etc.
It wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see them as college student athletes at Tennessee exceed 1.5 million in NIL deals easily. That would come from their own separate branding.
So perhaps Chavez could eventually generate well beyond 1.5 million but as part of a deal out of HS to commit to a D1 college I just don’t see it as being feasible in WBB. I guess the facts will come out in a few weeks.

Maybe in my old age of late 30s I'm just getting
grumpy, but I cannot imagine the audacity of "demanding" a NIL of $1.5 million when you haven't even WON anything in college yet.

It would be foolish to pay this, IMO. What if she gets injured and has to sit out a season -- or more? What if doesn't even up being the greatest thing since sliced bread? No offense to this young lady and I wish her the best of luck with her collegiate career, but let's be realistic here. Prove yourself first. Then you can ask for all the $ and more.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

Looks like that Kansas St coach to Missouri.

Looked up Jeff Mittie’s resume. The Missouri AD is from Kansas, and has ties there. Mittie is almost 59. In his 11 seasons at Kansas State, he only had 5 winning seasons in Conference. If I were a MO fan, don’t think I’d be too excited about that.

 

[Volfan2012]

Looked up Jeff Mittie’s resume. The Missouri AD is from Kansas, and has ties there. Mittie is almost 59. In his 11 seasons at Kansas State, he only had 5 winning seasons in Conference. If I were a MO fan, don’t think I’d be too excited about that.

I wouldn't be to excited if the AD said he would be ok with someone that could finish in the top to the middle of the league and make the NCAA. I guess he is just facing reality with Missouri in women's basketball, but still not something I would like to hear.

 

[Ladyvols4ever!]

 

[Poultrygeist]

So they're lying about it, huh? Not only do they lie about being USC, they lie about when they became "USC". Figures. What you'd expect from their kind.

1801 is the year we were founded and it's the third oldest state university in our country. UGa and NC were the first depending on the criteria. Look it up. What are you some kind of SoCal fan boy?

 

[superfly]

No apology necessary, compare their results, you were right. Since the 2016-17 season, there have been 7 NCAA National Championship tournaments, one was cancelled due to covid. Four Coaches won the 7 Championships, Dawn Staley 3, Kim Mulkey 2 (one at Baylor, one at LSU), Tara VanDevere 1, and Muffet McGraw 1. Kellie Harper has beaten 3 of those 4 Coaches.

To compare Conference results:

Kara Lawson:

2020-21: cancelled Conference season due to covid

2021-22: Finished 10th in Conference, did not make NCAA Tournament

2022-23: Tied for 2nd in Conference, 2nd round in NCAAT

2023-24: Tied for 7th in Conference, Sweet 16

2024-25: 3rd in Conference



Kellie Harper:

2019-20: Tied for 3rd in Conference, NCAAT cancelled due to covid

2020-21: 3rd in Conference, 2nd round in NCAAT

2021-22: 3rd in Conference, Sweet 16

2022-23: 3rd in Conference, Sweet 16

2023-24: Tied for 4th in Conference, 2nd round in NCAAT


The last 3 NCAA Championships were won by a team in the SEC, teams Kellie played every year.

Exactly...Kara would have been under the same expectations and pressure as Kellie was under. It's misleading to think she would not have suffered the same fate. The advantage that Caldwell has is she doesn't have the "alumni" pressure that Kellie and Holly had. That is a very real thing and probably would have affected Kara also. Things have worked out for the moment for both.

 

[Rooster1]

Exactly...Kara would have been under the same expectations and pressure as Kellie was under. It's misleading to think she would not have suffered the same fate. The advantage that Caldwell has is she doesn't have the "alumni" pressure that Kellie and Holly had. That is a very real thing and probably would have affected Kara also. Things have worked out for the moment for both.

I am fairly confident Kara would have recruited very well at UT. She has recruited extremely well at Duke, an easy school to sell the academic side of student athlete, but Duke has not traditionally had the same resources or basketball “cache” in WBB that UT has, let alone the tradition.

 

[superfly]

I am fairly confident Kara would have recruited very well at UT. She has recruited extremely well at Duke, an easy school to sell the academic side of student athlete, but Duke has not traditionally had the same resources or basketball “cache” in WBB that UT has, let alone the tradition.

Holly had several great classes and even a No.1 class. How did that work out? This is about feeling the freedom to set your own course as opposed to following what "Pat" did or would have done. It's the internal pressure from being an alumni who played for Pat and the outside pressure of the fan base. That doesn't happen to Kara at Duke...it would have at Tennessee. It's apples and oranges....(with the orange being Tennessee...lol)...

 

[meyers7]

1801 is the year we were founded and it's the third oldest state university in our country. UGa and NC were the first depending on the criteria. Look it up. What are you some kind of SoCal fan boy?

I did look it up, that's why I showed you, you were wrong. It was founded in 1801 as "SCC". Use that if you want to talk 1801. Otherwise, you're lying.

Not a USC fan (nor boy anymore). Just don't like when people try and steal things.