“climate emergency”

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The biggest "climate emergency" is overpopulation of the planet. Not sure how we're gonna solve that particular problem. People aren't going to stop having kids, and we're not going to go all Thanos and kill half the world's population. So will we find a way to colonize other planets?

Seriously, do any of these "climate scientists" address world population as the number one problem facing this "climate emergency"?
 
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Weezer said:
The biggest "climate emergency" is overpopulation of the planet. Not sure how we're gonna solve that particular problem. People aren't going to stop having kids, and we're not going to go all Thanos and kill half the world's population. So will we find a way to colonize other planets?

Seriously, do any of these "climate scientists" address world population as the number one problem facing this "climate emergency"?
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Hence the pandemic, but it's all Trump's fault for operation warp speed which put a dent in it.
 
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volinbham said:
Will be interesting to see how the Party of Science™ handles one of their own documenting how climate science has been turned into propaganda.

Opinion | How a Physicist Became a Climate Truth Teller

the book will be out in a couple weeks

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Thanks for the heads up. That's actually a new book I want to read. The best part of the article is the passage below. What most people will never get in this world of instant gratification is that inertia and momentum actually control almost everything. We think of them in classical physics terms, but they exist in everything from actual physical mechanics right on through non physical events such as the economy. Because people don't account for inertia and momentum and the effect on system dynamics, we ham-fistedly overcontrol everything.

The public now believes CO2 is something that can be turned up and down, but about 40% of the CO2 emitted a century ago remains in the atmosphere. Any warming it causes emerges slowly, so any benefit of reducing emissions would be small and distant. Everything Mr. Koonin and others see in the science suggests a slow, modest effect, not a runaway warming. If they’re wrong, we don’t have tools to apply yet anyway. Decades from now, we might have carbon capture—removing CO2 directly from the atmosphere at a manageable cost.
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VolStrom said:
Hence the pandemic, but it's all Trump's fault for operation warp speed which put a dent in it.
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JMO, but the pandemic is the world's attempt to restore some balance. Nature recognizes that the Earth is overpopulated. It gets a lot more scientific than that when you break it down, but that's what it boils down to. And of course the human response is to interfere. Not saying that response is wrong, but nature has a tendency to try and balance itself.

Also, a lot of climate science ignores that much of what is happening is natural, and has happened to the Earth before. From the Ice Age to the Great Deluge to the switching of the Earth's magnetic poles, history suggests this is just a natural cycle to some degree. We may be speeding up the process, but it's still natural.
 
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Orangeburst said:
What do you think is the end game for all this? Who benefits?
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People who stand to profit from "curing" and studying the problem - and the press, of course. They just need to keep the peasants whipped up enough to keep it in the "it's going to kill us all" category so the money keeps coming in. This crisis has staying power, so there's a lot of earnings potential. Look at the new "green" energy manufacturing and planting across the landscape, the rush to produce electric vehicles - even ones that fly, new appliances that use less energy, battery development; this has spawned a lot of trash the old and make the new that brings in tons of money. It's somewhat the new fashion and planned obsolescence thing that keeps industry rolling - of course, it requires a lot of energy, fills landfills, and uses a lot of energy.
 
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Weezer said:
JMO, but the pandemic is the world's attempt to restore some balance. Nature recognizes that the Earth is overpopulated. It gets a lot more scientific than that when you break it down, but that's what it boils down to. And of course the human response is to interfere. Not saying that response is wrong, but nature has a tendency to try and balance itself.

Also, a lot of climate science ignores that much of what is happening is natural, and has happened to the Earth before. From the Ice Age to the Great Deluge to the switching of the Earth's magnetic poles, history suggests this is just a natural cycle to some degree. We may be speeding up the process, but it's still natural.
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I'm still convinced mother nature didn't organize this pandemic - that it was lab developed. It wasn't necessarily dumped on the world, but somebody was stupidly playing god with viruses and should have left Pandora and her box alone. You'd think people smart enough to play with viruses would also have been smart enough to know what happens when you play with fire.
 
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AM64 said:
I'm still convinced mother nature didn't organize this pandemic - that it was lab developed. It wasn't necessarily dumped on the world, but somebody was stupidly playing god with viruses and should have left Pandora and her box alone. You'd think people smart enough to play with viruses would also have been smart enough to know what happens when you play with fire.
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Even if true, nature, in this case overpopulation, allowed it to spread so quickly. Especially in a country like China.
 
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AM64 said:
People who stand to profit from "curing" and studying the problem - and the press, of course. They just need to keep the peasants whipped up enough to keep it in the "it's going to kill us all" category so the money keeps coming in. This crisis has staying power, so there's a lot of earnings potential. Look at the new "green" energy manufacturing and planting across the landscape, the rush to produce electric vehicles - even ones that fly, new appliances that use less energy, battery development; this has spawned a lot of trash the old and make the new that brings in tons of money. It's somewhat the new fashion and planned obsolescence thing that keeps industry rolling - of course, it requires a lot of energy, fills landfills, and uses a lot of energy.
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OK now we are talking "who and how they benefit". Always follow the money. The gov is subsidizing this green energy, hence defacto a form of socialism and payback. Progs could never get their hands of control on the oil producers.
 
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Weezer said:
Even if true, nature, in this case overpopulation, allowed it to spread so quickly. Especially in a country like China.
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What is amazing is to look at the world pandemic case study and how few cases China reports. It's obvious they are lying, but nobody is really calling China out for anything - overpopulation, economic aggression, global schiff stirrer, environmental disaster, ... What's worse is just as people were beginning to see China for what it is - a lying, cheating whore - the protective element has spun out a new story about racial hatred toward Asians, which is a cleverly worded way of saying you can't criticize the Chinese anymore.
 
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Weezer said:
Even if true, nature, in this case overpopulation, allowed it to spread so quickly. Especially in a country like China.
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It's amazing how the people controlling the climate disaster articles can so easily sidestep the population part of the equation. The number of people is a direct multiplier since every living person contributes - if nothing more than by exhaling carbon dioxide. It's far worse, of course, considering all the consumables each person uses, the production of those consumables, and the waste generated by production of everything humans use.
 
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AM64 said:
It's amazing how the people controlling the climate disaster articles can so easily sidestep the population part of the equation. The number of people is a direct multiplier since every living person contributes - if nothing more than by exhaling carbon dioxide. It's far worse, of course, considering all the consumables each person uses, the production of those consumables, and the waste generated by production of everything humans use.
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Factor in as the population grows, so do cities, leading to more deforestation to create room for expansion. That's less plant life to absorb CO2. Also, more people means more overall emissions. Overpopulation really is the root problem of most "climate disaster".

And more people means more food needed leading to more cow farts.
 
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