07 Bracketology

#51
#51
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
Just go ahead and admit it, if this wasn't one of "hat's analysts" you wouldn't be arguing. It'd be another poor poll/prediction. I won't hold it against you. Go ahead and throw your bias to the side for 1 moment.
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I like Lunardi. He's far from my favorite. I just think UCONN's track record shows they'll be around the top 15-20 this year.
 
#52
#52
Pearl proved this year that you don't have to run roughshod over your conference to get a high seed. I, personally, think that no team in the Big East is absolutely monstrous(very down from last year) but I think that UCONN will definitely feel the effect of losing so much. I think they will finish 4-5th in the conference and get a 6-7 seed.
 
#54
#54
(hatvol96 @ Jun 22 said:
Not all of us. Football is merely something to get me from the NBA Finals to the tip off of the next season.
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So are you saying that during football season we won't hear much from ya? Somehow, that's hard to believe since you seem to have a plethora of opinions regarding Coach Fulmer.. :eek:lol:
 
#55
#55
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
Pearl proved this year that you don't have to run roughshod over your conference to get a high seed. I, personally, think that no team in the Big East is absolutely monstrous(very down from last year) but I think that UCONN will definitely feel the effect of losing so much. I think they will finish 4-5th in the conference and get a 6-7 seed.
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Louisville is the only team I would say will certainly be better than UCONN. Georgetown probably will finish ahead of them. Pitt will be one of the most overrated teams in the country when the first polls come out.
 
#56
#56
i just don't see how you lose 8 top players and you are seriously on here saying that they will be a 4 seed next year?? Hat get off your high horse and admit your wrong on this. If you seriously think that tennessee should be a 7 but uconn should be a 4 then you need to lay off the pipe. they are hoping to replace there whole starting 5 plus there bench, tennessee is just adding more talent to the pf and C postions and breaking in a 5 star pg. Please go argue about fulmer or something right now, cause right now you are dead wrong.
 
#58
#58
(hmanvolfan @ Jun 22 said:
So are you saying that during football season we won't hear much from ya? Somehow, that's hard to believe since you seem to have a plethora of opinions regarding Coach Fulmer.. :eek:lol:
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Football is a sidelight to me. If you notice, I don't interject myself when the hypertechnical discussions about schemes and formations start. I've never enjoyed football enough to bother to immerse myself in learning the minutiae of the game. On the other hand, I'll talk basketball strategy for as long as anyone wants to discuss it.
 
#59
#59
(vols2345 @ Jun 22 said:
i just don't see how you lose 8 top players and you are seriously on here saying that they will be a 4 seed next year?? Hat get off your high horse and admit your wrong on this. If you seriously think that tennessee should be a 7 but uconn should be a 4 then you need to lay off the pipe. they are hoping to replace there whole starting 5 plus there bench, tennessee is just adding more talent to the pf and C postions and breaking in a 5 star pg. Please go argue about fulmer or something right now, cause right now you are dead wrong.
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If you think Crews and Chism are better than Curtis Kelly and Stanley Robinson, you've taken leave of your senses.
 
#60
#60
(vols2345 @ Jun 22 said:
i just don't see how you lose 8 top players and you are seriously on here saying that they will be a 4 seed next year?? Hat get off your high horse and admit your wrong on this. If you seriously think that tennessee should be a 7 but uconn should be a 4 then you need to lay off the pipe. they are hoping to replace there whole starting 5 plus there bench, tennessee is just adding more talent to the pf and C postions and breaking in a 5 star pg. Please go argue about fulmer or something right now, cause right now you are dead wrong.
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Kind of like all those guys North Carolina lost going into last year. Where were they seeded when the NCAA tournament started?
 
#61
#61
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
I think the 3 you mentioned will be ahead of them, though WVU won't be too much better.
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West Virginia returns less than UCONN. They'll be lucky to qualify for the Big East tournament, let alone the NCAAs.
 
#62
#62
(hatvol96 @ Jun 22 said:
If you think Crews and Chism are better than Curtis Kelly and Stanley Robinson, you've taken leave of your senses.
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have you sen chism and crews play??? chism has owned everyone he plays aginst and crews is suppose to be the next tyrus thomas in the SEC, how can kelly and robinson be better then that?
 
#63
#63
Hat, they are replacing 8 players. We are replacing 3. Their starting 5 and bench. 2 of our starters and a role player. I'm not trying to find out how you can think they are better. I'm trying to find out how you think they are 4 seeds better. And your argument is sucking at this point.
 
#64
#64
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
Hat, they are replacing 8 players. We are replacing 3. Their starting 5 and bench. 2 of our starters and a role player. I'm not trying to find out how you can think they are better. I'm trying to find out how you think they are 4 seeds better. And your argument is sucking at this point.
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:birgits_giggle:
 
#65
#65
Where was UNC seeded? Hmmm, I'm pretty sure it wasn't as high as the Vols were. Mind you, that was a Vol squad that was breaking in a new coach and system and didn't have all the pieces to the puzzle.
 
#66
#66
Its funny how you'll argue so hard for UCONN but are so quick to shun Texas. Both are losing alot but UCONN loses alot more and doesn't bring in as much. You say that Texas will be lucky to finish in the top 4 of the Big 12 but expect UCONN to compete for the Big East.
 
#67
#67
(vols2345 @ Jun 22 said:
have you sen chism and crews play??? chism has owned everyone he plays aginst and crews is suppose to be the next tyrus thomas in the SEC, how can kelly and robinson be better then that?
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I've seen them both since they were about 14. They're both good, Crews especially so. Remember, Tyrus Thomas was a redshirt freshman. In Kelly's case, playing against NYC talent during the high school season results in him being more advanced than a guy like Chism, who spent a good portion of his high school career guarded by 6'2" farm boys. Robinson's game is more polished than what Crews possesses now. Of the four, Crews has the highest ceiling. But if I were choosing them for impact next year, I'd take both UCONN guys before either UT player.
 
#68
#68
Chism did play a majority against smaller, less talented players, but he also played against Thad Young, Jason Bennett, Brandan Wright, and Greg Oden and either stood toe to toe with said player or stoned said player.
 
#69
#69
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
Its funny how you'll argue so hard for UCONN but are so quick to shun Texas. Both are losing alot but UCONN loses alot more and doesn't bring in as much. You say that Texas will be lucky to finish in the top 4 of the Big 12 but expect UCONN to compete for the Big East.
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Rick Barnes is a good coach. Jim Calhoun is in the Hall of Fame. That's how I draw that distinction. Also, I think Kansas, A&M, and OK State are all going to be exceptional next year. That means Barnes gets to fight the rest of the conference, which includes some pretty good teams, for 4th with a team comprised almost entirely of freshmen. Unless their names are Rose, Webber, Howard, King, and Jackson, I don't like any freshmen class' chances in that situation.
 
#70
#70
I'd take Kansas, but I'm not sold on OSU nor AnM. OSU doesn't have the old coach anymore and AnM is overrated to me.
 
#71
#71
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
Chism did play a majority against smaller, less talented players, but he also played against Thad Young, Jason Bennett, Brandan Wright, and Greg Oden and either stood toe to toe with said player or stoned said player.
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He generally played well against those guys. I did see Young absolutely annihilate him once in the summer, but they really aren't comparable players. Chism should never be guarding a player with Young's perimeter skills.
 
#72
#72
So you still think that UCONN is 4 seeds better based on the fact that 2 of their incoming freshmen may be better than 2 of our incoming freshmen?
 
#73
#73
He shouldn't be, you're right, but the first time they played this year, Chism handled Young for the first half before he had to leave with injury. Chism guarded him with ease in that game.
 
#74
#74
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
I'd take Kansas, but I'm not sold on OSU nor AnM. OSU doesn't have the old coach anymore and AnM is overrated to me.
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Sean Sutton has done a great deal of the coaching there the last 3-4 years. The transition will invigorate that program. Billy Gillespie is one of the best coaches in college basketball. Also, Texas Tech returns the conference's leading scorer and adds a bunch of JUCO bigs. Bob Huggins inherited a nice nucleud and added a top 20 recruiting class. The Big 12 isn't going to be any place to break in freshmen next year.
 
#75
#75
(hvwarrior58 @ Jun 22 said:
He shouldn't be, you're right, but the first time they played this year, Chism handled Young for the first half before he had to leave with injury. Chism guarded him with ease in that game.
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Because Young's high school coach is an idiot and played Thad inside.
 
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