'09 TN DL Daniel Hood (merged)

#476
#476
I had a mother did drugs and beat me all the time. I was 8 years old! I have forgiven her. Everyone deserves another chance. How many of you have done something wrong in your life and have lived to regret it when you were a teenager? Do you deserve another chance? I have to say I HAVE and I paid for it. whether it's a small thing or a big thing, all sin is the same, there is no such thing as a little sin!
 
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#477
First&Tenn said:
What about the assessment the other players make of him?

And, what about the assessment they make of our coaching staff for putting him on their team?

It's just a bad idea, morality arguments aside...
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morality arguments are the only cause to deny him a spot ...
 
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#478
How are we persecuting him? We are not judging him by his beliefs or his skin color. It is not his right to play football for UT. It is an honor and a privilege. He has not earned it. I just have to laugh when i hear people saying that what we are doing is like what was done to Christ. Jesus was murdered for spreading a message of love. We are simply saying that we don't want him to attend UT. The Jesus comparisons are ridiculous. Please come up with a better argument, or you have no credibility.
 
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#479
Sorry if this has already been asked but I didn't want to go through all the opinions on whether we should get him or not but what position and things like that does he play?
 
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#480
First&Tenn said:
What about the assessment the other players make of him?

And, what about the assessment they make of our coaching staff for putting him on their team?

It's just a bad idea, morality arguments aside...
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I will accept this as a reasonable position to take. The idea that it is simply a bad PR move is an argument I can accept.

The argument that the kid shouldn't be playing at UT because he should have already been tossed on a a deserted island with a bunch of leppers is the one I disagree with.
 
#481
#481
Can somebody just verify if he is all Vol or not.

Second, does anybody know if he has been in any trouble since the incident or his conviction?
 
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Tenacious D said:
Good point about the judge't limited time with him, however, that's not the judges only knowledge of the defendant. Likely, he had read hundreds of pages of briefings, assessments and opinions of noted child / social workers, psychologists, case managers, etc. - and subsequently heard testimony from each as well - both those called on behalf of the prosecution and defense, alike.

While his time was limited, to be sure, it's not accurate to believe that this was the sole point of reference which was used in the formulation of his opinion.

Your comment about presuasive comments is also spot on, however, if a judge were truly afraid of being overturned on appeal, he would be most concerned with the use of prejudicial language that could most effectively substantiate a appellate claim on the grounds of judicial bias.

Simply, had the defendant's remorse been exampled in any way, supported by any evidence, or witnessed by any person, the judge would have avoided his chosen language at all costs. Obviously, he was confident in making such a strikingly unavoidable comment.

Please also notice that the case was, in fact, appealed......with the defense making no mention of the presiding judge exhibiting bias of any sort. Surely this would have been listed amongst their 20 some odd challenges, had they the faintest notion that such an accusation could be corraborated.

Your point was well taken, but the likliest reason for the judge to remark at his lack of remorse was due to the fact that the defendant had failed to exhibit it, and not for fear of being overturned by an appelate court.
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Your point is very fair and well presented. I don't know how the court system in Tennessee is set up. I realized that this was an appeal, but I wasn't sure whether it was the highest court that he could have appealed to.
 
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#483
so angry.

your logic processes have failed you. you can't call up a comparison of us (those that obviously disagree with you) to the jews (the persecuters of Jesus Christ), and not see the absolutely ridiculous correlation of equating Hood (who you claim is persecuted here) to Christ (who was persecuted by the jews, er, us as you see it).
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Jesus was killed by the Romans, not the Jews, you mor*n........please keep your incorrect regiligious views to yourself, or at least take a history class
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govols87 said:
I'm not comparing him to Jesus...I'm comparing you to the Jews.
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and while we're calling people morons, i figured we might as well include the original "it was the jews" post.....i just played along off that post. Sorry i didn't fact check before i posted on a message board about football?

how silly of me....you pretentious douche. have a nice day!:hi:
 
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kidbourbon said:
I will accept this as a reasonable position to take. The idea that it is simply a bad PR move is an argument I can accept.

The argument that the kid shouldn't be playing at UT because he should have already been tossed on a a deserted island with a bunch of leppers is the one I disagree with.
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On a recruiting level, how many parents will let their kids be on a team with this guy?

You have to know that Urban, Saban, and Richt will have this guy's court records in hand for every in-home visit when they are going against UT.

"Your son will have the opportunity to learn real-life values with our family at UT" won't work quite as well after this shocker is set in front of them...
 
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#485
his father posted on here for a while...wonder if he still does and could share some insight
 
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tnvolsfan85 said:
Did he have to register as a sex offender?
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No, as of now the State of Tennessee does not require a minor convicted of a sex crime be required to register. However, there is a bill in the house now, pressured by the Feds, to require a minor to be registered. It goes to vote in April. It is part of the Adam Walsh Act.
 
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#487
point of legal order: what was the father's culpability?

crime occurred in his house

he was home at the time

i've heard of parents getting in hot water for being home when minors consumed alcohol on the premises.

????
 
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#488
Sudden Impact said:
Can somebody just verify if he is all Vol or not.

Second, does anybody know if he has been in any trouble since the incident or his conviction?
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Dude, I asked this about 100 posts ago and have still yet to see a reply on it. Everyone is so concerned over WWJD, they miss the point that he may not even have an offer.
 
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kidbourbon said:
Yeah, he has to live with it...he'll carry the situation on his shoulders for the rest of his life. But I don't think he should be denied any and all of life's opportunities b/c of his involvement in a very unfortunate situation at the age of 13.

Maybe he is just a perv. But if he's not, and the staff is able to make an assessment that the kid isn't sick and twisted and that's he's actually a decent 18 year old kid with a really unfortunate blackmark on his record, then I would be able to accept that as a reasonable conclusion.
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me neither. I thnk that when it comes down to it, the kid will play college ball somewhere, but one of hte consequences of his actions may be that he wont' get the opportunity to play at an SEC school....maybe he has to go to an MTSU or ULL or something like that. it's a distinct posibility that most SEC coaches won't want the potential negative response or the risk of having the kid on campus....or they may not, who knows....but i could see him still playing somewhere else where the exposre won't be so much...

make sense?
 
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CountVolcula said:
No, as of now the State of Tennessee does not require a minor convicted of a sex crime be required to register. However, there is a bill in the house now, pressured by the Feds, to require a minor to be registered. It goes to vote in April. It is part of the Adam Walsh Act.
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Which is substantially irrelevant as applied to this kid. No ex post facto.
 
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jakez4ut said:
me neither. I thnk that when it comes down to it, the kid will play college ball somewhere, but one of hte consequences of his actions may be that he wont' get the opportunity to play at an SEC school....maybe he has to go to an MTSU or ULL or something like that. it's a distinct posibility that most SEC coaches won't want the potential negative response or the risk of having the kid on campus....or they may not, who knows....but i could see him still playing somewhere else where the exposre won't be so much...

make sense?
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You've made more sense than most.
 
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#495
Just wondering, how many of you have ever made friends with a gang member or anyone of that caliber and been his age?? Further more, how many of you have ever been told that if you do or say anything you would get your ass kicked or killed?? What he witnessed was just disgusting and he could have tried to do something about it yes, but have you ever been a scared kid his age hanging out with the wrong crowd?? I don't think most of you have and honestly I don't think that most of you know what is going on in his head or what he has been through. No one here can say that if they were in the same situation that they would have done anything different. The reason I know that is because no one on this board has been in that situation. I can also see that most of the posters in here that would see him and recognize him would rather spit in his face than encourage him to always do the right thing in light of what has happened in his life. So would you condemn the kid to a life of possible non-positive influences or would you want him to have the most positive influences around him possible to remind him that he can do better??
 
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#496
I'm glad we have been able to talk about Jesus today on Vol Nation. Since we have, Jesus message was about LOVE&Forgiveness! I have forgiveness for this kid and hope the girl in this case is doing well. She was the victim, by the way. We do not know if this story on Hood signing next week is true or not. Would somebody please try to confirm this, before we keep up the name calling, racial slurs, and judging! PLEASE!
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Just wondering, how many of you have ever made friends with a gang member or anyone of that caliber and been his age?? Further more, how many of you have ever been told that if you do or say anything you would get your ass kicked or killed?? What he witnessed was just disgusting and he could have tried to do something about it yes, but have you ever been a scared kid his age hanging out with the wrong crowd?? I don't think most of you have and honestly I don't think that most of you know what is going on in his head or what he has been through. No one here can say that if they were in the same situation that they would have done anything different. The reason I know that is because no one on this board has been in that situation. I can also see that most of the posters in here that would see him and recognize him would rather spit in his face than encourage him to always do the right thing in light of what has happened in his life. So would you condemn the kid to a life of possible non-positive influences or would you want him to have the most positive influences around him possible to remind him that he can do better??
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Good post Eric!
 
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#500
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Just wondering, how many of you have ever made friends with a gang member or anyone of that caliber and been his age?? Further more, how many of you have ever been told that if you do or say anything you would get your ass kicked or killed?? What he witnessed was just disgusting and he could have tried to do something about it yes, but have you ever been a scared kid his age hanging out with the wrong crowd?? I don't think most of you have and honestly I don't think that most of you know what is going on in his head or what he has been through. No one here can say that if they were in the same situation that they would have done anything different. The reason I know that is because no one on this board has been in that situation. I can also see that most of the posters in here that would see him and recognize him would rather spit in his face than encourage him to always do the right thing in light of what has happened in his life. So would you condemn the kid to a life of possible non-positive influences or would you want him to have the most positive influences around him possible to remind him that he can do better??
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hmm...no remorse,blaming the victim....yeah he definitely needs a positive influence.
 
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