'09 TN DL Daniel Hood (merged)

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#426
Wow...I can't believe some people are condemning this "kid"...and he is still a kid....so what was he 6 years ago?
I know another story about a young man who did something wrong in the eyes of his peers. They persecuted him and had him publicly beaten tehn nailed to a cross.
 
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govols87 said:
Wow...I can't believe some people are condemning this "kid"...and he is still a kid....so what was he 6 years ago?
I know another story about a young man who did something wrong in the eyes of his peers. They persecuted him and had him publicly beaten tehn nailed to a cross.
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oh, i forgot the gospel story where Jesus and his apostle raped Jesus's cousin with a plunger...is that in proverbs or the book of peter?:crazy:
 
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govols87 said:
Wow...I can't believe some people are condemning this "kid"...and he is still a kid....so what was he 6 years ago?
I know another story about a young man who did something wrong in the eyes of his peers. They persecuted him and had him publicly beaten tehn nailed to a cross.
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Really?

You're really going to compare him to christ?!:no:
 
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kidbourbon said:
I agree that it is old enough to know the difference b/w right and wrong. But it might not be old enough to stand up to a 16 or 17 year old and say it out loud. If that makes sense at all.
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I am just tired of talking about. If CLK and the athletic dept. decide it will be alright for him to play for UT then there really isn't anything we can do about. I might not agree with the decision, but I am not going to start pulling against UT. Agree or disagree with what happens we will all be UT fans.
 
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#437
Here's an excerpt from the Court's decision in his appealed decision, which I think best and most succinctly states Hood's role in the matter:

"Next, [the defendant] failed to protect his cousin when he could have easily done so, being in his own home, having his father just across the house from them. [The defendant] has shown virtually no remorse for the offenses in which his first cousin was the victim. These offenses being extremely cruel and vile."​
(Emphasis mine)​

Bear in mind, this is likely the least repulsive description of the events as can be found within the entirety of the previously posted document.

If you believe that it was merely a case of a mixed-up 13-year old boy who simply didn't know how to stop the act from occuring (or such similiar nonsense), how do you explain that he had, "shown virtually no remorse for the offenses..." during his jury trial (de novo) held in December 2004 - some 16 months after the incident, when Hood would have been 15 years old at the time?

If he didn't know that it was wrong and show remorse at the age of 15, when did he? When will the rest of you who are defending him come to a similiar realization?
 
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jakez4ut said:
the jews did that to Jesus....so yeah, you are.
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How? I'm saying you are persecuting him. I in no way said he was the messiah. Get over your pride and leave the kid alone. yeah...that's right...the kid. It's not for us to decide...just because you pull for the team doesn't mean you have a say. If you don't like it, go cheer for someone else.
 
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govols87 said:
Wow...I can't believe some people are condemning this "kid"...and he is still a kid....so what was he 6 years ago?
I know another story about a young man who did something wrong in the eyes of his peers. They persecuted him and had him publicly beaten tehn nailed to a cross.
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Don't even compare this to Jesus, that's an insult to Christianity.

If someone rammed a plunger up your rear end, or that of your mom, sister, girlfriend, or daughter, 6 years ago would you be so conciliatory?

Forgive him, fine, but he doesn't have to represent us.
 
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I would like to know how the victim and her family feel about this?

If they believe he deserves this chance, then he should get it. If they are against it then UT should be too.
 
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govols87 said:
How? I'm saying you are persecuting him. I in no way said he was the messiah. Get over your pride and leave the kid alone. yeah...that's right...the kid. It's not for us to decide...just because you pull for the team doesn't mean you have a say. If you don't like it, go cheer for someone else.
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Lots of people have been persecuted.

Only one notable one nailed to the cross.
 
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Fans from other schools will be on the University what ever the outcome. If he comes to school here , we've let a rapist in, if we turn he away, we have no compassion or forgiveness. :no:
 
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when kiffin talked about building a fence around the state i didn't think that that fence was going to have razor wire, searchlights, guards with guns, and jail bars.
 
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The act was awful and atrocious. That event will stick with the victim for the rest of her life. That event will also be with those two young men for the rest of their life. I'm no God. Neither are You. It's not our place to pass judgment on this young man. Yes, We All Know It was Bad and Wrong. All of us (know) we wouldn't have done the same thing if in the same situation. If this kid is given the opportunity of a lifetime, to play for the University of Tennessee, I wouldn't neccessarily be in favor of it. However, I know enough to know that I can't stop it. "God's Will" be done. Not mine.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i'm going to be everyone's mom and dad now by stating the following:

if the other kids jumped off a bridge, does that mean you should do it too?

at 13 you know right from wrong. say no. go get help. get your babysitter out of the shower. hit the 17 year old with a baseball bat.

but you don't participate in something like that, and not have it stick with you. is it wrong on some level the kid will have this stigma with him for probalby his whole life, in some way shape or form? yeah, probably. but we all know that's the way of it.

there are certian people you equate with their acts, good and bad.
Mother Theresa
Ghandi
John Wilks Booth
Richard Nixon
Mike Vick


extreme examples, i'm aware, and i don't expect this kid to be so well known he'd be on a list like this, but the point really is, we don 't know any of these people personally, but they all have a stigma attached to them that we identify with. i'm sure there was someone in Mother Theresa's past that didn't like her for some reason, just like i'm sure there was someone in John Wilkes Booth's life that loved him to death.

for this kid, and the circles he's going to be associated with going forward that will involve any public identity, ie COllege football player, this is something that will have to be dealt with.
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I agree that what he did was wrong. I'm not saying it wasn't wrong b/c he was 13. But I don't think his level of culpability is such that it should stick with him for the rest of his life. From the record, I think it is reasonable to infer that:
1. The other kid was clearly quarterbacking the operation
2. He just went along with it.

And, at 13, he may have known it was wrong, but didn't appreciate the magnitude of how wrong it really was.

I certainly didn't do anything terribly reprehensible when I was 13, but I definitely remember smoking a lot of cigarettes behind the rec center just because the older kids were doing it.
 
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govols87 said:
How? I'm saying you are persecuting him. I in no way said he was the messiah. Get over your pride and leave the kid alone. yeah...that's right...the kid. It's not for us to decide...just because you pull for the team doesn't mean you have a say. If you don't like it, go cheer for someone else.
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so angry.

your logic processes have failed you. you can't call up a comparison of us (those that obviously disagree with you) to the jews (the persecuters of Jesus Christ), and not see the absolutely ridiculous correlation of equating Hood (who you claim is persecuted here) to Christ (who was persecuted by the jews, er, us as you see it).

it was stupid comparison from the jump. no one is persecuting the kid. i don't have any stones in my hand. i've just said that personally, i don't want a kid that participted in an act like that represnting my university.

i stand by that.
 
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Putting aside for a second the absolutely horrible thing this kid did.

Do you understand what kind of PR nightmare putting him on the team would be?

ESPN and every coach recruiting against TN would use this kid as their poster-boy to turn people against the Vols.

I primarily don't want him because of what he did, but I also don't want him because of what his reputation and prior actions could do to the team. Plus, how are you going to tell the current players that we are looking for high quality people and then let this guy in?
 
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jakez4ut said:
so angry.

your logic processes have failed you. you can't call up a comparison of us (those that obviously disagree with you) to the jews (the persecuters of Jesus Christ), and not see the absolutely ridiculous correlation of equating Hood (who you claim is persecuted here) to Christ (who was persecuted by the jews, er, us as you see it).

it was stupid comparison from the jump. no one is persecuting the kid. i don't have any stones in my hand. i've just said that personally, i don't want a kid that participted in an act like that represnting my university.
i stand by that.
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:good!:
 
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