1/5 of Gen Z (1997-2004) identify as LGBT.

[C-south]

I’m not sure how to respond to this.

Try humping someone’s leg.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I didn’t claim their post was unreasonable. I would disagree with the “natural” part of their statement though.

You called him mentally ill, bro.

 

[85SugarVol]

You contend there isn’t illness in the animal kingdom?

Fair point. Yes, I think we clearly see “abnormal behavior” in the larger animal kingdom.

But we see homosexual activity amongst adolescent male orca all the time. Once they reach sexual maturity they join a pod and sire offspring if selected.

But it’s not abnormal. It’s quite common.

 

[85SugarVol]

Try humping someone’s leg.

You mean dancing?

 

[allvol123]

Fair point. Yes, I think we clearly see “abnormal behavior” in the larger animal kingdom.

But we see homosexual activity amongst adolescent male orca all the time. Once they reach sexual maturity they join a pod and sire offspring if selected.

But it’s not abnormal. It’s quite common.

To not be abnormal and common doesn’t necessarily point to healthy. There are probably behaviors in prison that are common and normal for that environment, that aren’t healthy.

 

[C-south]

Fair point. Yes, I think we clearly see “abnormal behavior” in the larger animal kingdom.

But we see homosexual activity amongst adolescent male orca all the time. Once they reach sexual maturity they join a pod and sire offspring if selected.

But it’s not abnormal. It’s quite common.

So normalcy is dictated by some marine mammal behaviors? I guess you’re saying dominant males are the ones that mate and the others get their rocks off in unnatural ways. Maybe you’re saying since humans only have an annual breeding cycle the guys that miss out have no other way to turn. Maybe the argument of it not being a mental illness would at least carry some weight if the overwhelming majority weren’t officially diagnosed with some other “acceptable” mental illness.

 

[allvol123]

I for one am very skeptical of a medical community that lined up behind the government Covid narrative.

We have now seen there are actual medical centers lined up with prestigious medical institutions that are literally cutting breasts off teen girls and giving them puberty blockers.

So if I am to believe this is a legitimate endeavor by the medical community. Then where are the centers working to change gay people to straight? I mean if I am to believe that people are born the wrong gender, surely it isn’t outlandish to believe there are people born with the wrong sexuality? Right? Where’s the medical work on that?

 

[whodeycin85]

Fair point. Yes, I think we clearly see “abnormal behavior” in the larger animal kingdom.

But we see homosexual activity amongst adolescent male orca all the time. Once they reach sexual maturity they join a pod and sire offspring if selected.

But it’s not abnormal. It’s quite common.

Wouldn't the difference between "orcas" and humans simply be the higher brain function. We as human don't rely solely on the animalistic piece of our brain. If we did we would be no better then monkeys. Given that we have he choice to ingnore our animal instincts, then that would lead one to believe that an animal trying to continue the species is going to have sex with anything to further the line. With higher brain function we have a choice to ingnore wanting to continue the instinct of procreation, because we also aware of the consequences...that is why I have always thought it was a mental illness.

 

[85SugarVol]

To not be abnormal and common doesn’t necessarily point to healthy. There are probably behaviors in prison that are common and normal for that environment, that aren’t healthy.

The behaviors have been observed generation after generation after generation. It has had no impact on the health of the populations, or the health of the adolescent males, or the health of their future mates and offspring.

It’s just a natural behavior in the animal kingdom.

Prisons? Come on man, you are much better than that.

 

[85SugarVol]

I for one am very skeptical of a medical community that lined up behind the government Covid narrative.

We have now seen there are actual medical centers lined up with prestigious medical institutions that are literally cutting breasts off teen girls and giving them puberty blockers.

So if I am to believe this is a legitimate endeavor by the medical community. Then where are the centers working to change gay people to straight? I mean if I am to believe that people are born the wrong gender, surely it isn’t outlandish to believe there are people born with the wrong sexuality? Right? Where’s the medical work on that?

We’re absolutely on the same page when it comes to the medical community at large and Covid.

We’re absolutely on the same page when it comes to subjecting minor children to “gender affirming care”.

I don’t even consider Trans part of the LGBQ community - they are something wholly different. Jmo.

 

[allvol123]

The behaviors have been observed generation after generation after generation. It has had no impact on the health of the populations, or the health of the adolescent males, or the health of their future mates and offspring.

It’s just a natural behavior in the animal kingdom.

Prisons? Come on man, you are much better than that.

What is the average lifespan of a homosexual male versus a heterosexual male human?

 

[85SugarVol]

What is the average lifespan of a homosexual male versus a heterosexual male human?

I have no idea. I’m guessing you know the answer.

 

[85SugarVol]

Wouldn't the difference between "orcas" and humans simply be the higher brain function. We as human don't rely solely on the animalistic piece of our brain. If we did we would be no better then monkeys. Given that we have he choice to ingnore our animal instincts, then that would lead one to believe that an animal trying to continue the species is going to have sex with anything to further the line. With higher brain function we have a choice to ingnore wanting to continue the instinct of procreation, because we also aware of the consequences...that is why I have always thought it was a mental illness.

You are severely underestimating the great cetaceans.

They are incredibly evolved creatures, and regularly demonstrate “choice” all the time.

 

[allvol123]

I have no idea. I’m guessing you know the answer.

I don’t. I think there is a disparity. But my belief is you see very little research in this area because they don’t want it known. Again, our great medical community.

I am only aware of one study done years ago. I believe it’s hidden agenda was to show the lack of proper medical care available to the community and the narrative got flipped pointing out the poor outcome of that community. Thus, no more desire to study it.

 

[gcbvol]

You called him mentally ill, bro.

I've been called worse! But, seriously, no offense taken.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I've been called worse! But, seriously, no offense taken.

Kill them with ominous gifs.

 

[illumiVOLi]

I've been called worse! But, seriously, no offense taken.

I don’t think he called you mentally ill specifically just that “homosexuality “ is a mental disorder, in his view. I agree with you though like it or not it’s observed across the spectrum in the animal kingdom. What can you say. Animals be screwin’ and sometimes a hole is a hole.

 

[85SugarVol]

I don’t think he called you mentally ill specifically just that “homosexuality “ is a mental disorder, in his view. I agree with you though like it or not it’s observed across the spectrum in the animal kingdom. What can you say. Animals be screwin’ and sometimes a hole is a hole.

Nm. You edited you your post.

 

[85SugarVol]

I don’t. I think there is a disparity. But my belief is you see very little research in this area because they don’t want it known. Again, our great medical community.

I am only aware of one study done years ago. I believe it’s hidden agenda was to show the lack of proper medical care available to the community and the narrative got flipped pointing out the poor outcome of that community. Thus, no more desire to study it.

I’d be curious to know if there is a disparity now. Probably not when you control for Socio-Economics.

But the 1980’s were a different, dangerous time. Our old friend the Fauc had hand in that too.

 

[allvol123]

I’d be curious to know if there is a disparity now. Probably not when you control for Socio-Economics.

But the 1980’s were a different, dangerous time. Our old friend the Fauc had hand in that too.

The community has often argued that suicide was a major cause to their poorer results. That is gonna lose traction now, as homosexuality is very accepted now.

 

[allvol123]

I don’t think he called you mentally ill specifically just that “homosexuality “ is a mental disorder, in his view. I agree with you though like it or not it’s observed across the spectrum in the animal kingdom. What can you say. Animals be screwin’ and sometimes a hole is a hole.

Yes, some animals commonly engage in incest. So not sure we want to be using the animal kingdom for comparison.

 

[gcbvol]

Serious talk. The latest research suggests a multi-factor cause. Some genetic, but a larger portion in the intra-utero environment. There is a decent possibility certain hormonal exposure at specific points in fetal development could have an impact on the brain. So one could consider it a type of mental illness I suppose. But an incurable one.

 

[Tman44]

I for one am very skeptical of a medical community that lined up behind the government Covid narrative.

We have now seen there are actual medical centers lined up with prestigious medical institutions that are literally cutting breasts off teen girls and giving them puberty blockers.

So if I am to believe this is a legitimate endeavor by the medical community. Then where are the centers working to change gay people to straight? I mean if I am to believe that people are born the wrong gender, surely it isn’t outlandish to believe there are people born with the wrong sexuality? Right? Where’s the medical work on that?

Do you know how much money these hospitals make chopping up children? It is huge profit, a ton more money than providing folks with mental heath treatment. The only thing legitimate about this sick thing is the money the hospitals put in the bank.

 

[VolStrom]

Damn, this forum thread sure went down a rabbit hole to hell.

 

[allvol123]

Do you know how much money these hospitals make chopping up children? It is huge profit, a ton more money than providing folks with mental heath treatment. The only thing legitimate about this sick thing is the money the hospitals put in the bank.

My main point is the medical community has no integrity whatsoever with regard to this subject.