1/5 of Gen Z (1997-2004) identify as LGBT.

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volgr said:
I find that almost impossible to believe, but that is why I say for most it is a choice. You can't love women or just aren't sexually attracted to them?
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Oh, I am capable of love. There is simply zero sexual attraction. I don't recall ever having an erotic dream involving women. Have you ever had an erotic dream involving a man? If not, you understand. We're just opposites.
 
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gcbvol said:
Appreciate your perspective and understand. I was a person of faith which made acceptance an intense and painful struggle. But it came down to life or death for me and I chose to live.
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a difficult but likely necessary choice.
 
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allvol123 said:
So again, you’re just on the spectrum now if you are attracted to children. Nothing wrong with you. Just who you are.

It is only a problem if you act on it. That is not moving closer?
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I guess I don't see the categorization as moving it closer to acceptance. I understand they exist, but I've never met anyone who feels it's anywhere close to okay.
 
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gcbvol said:
I guess I don't see the categorization as moving it closer to acceptance. I understand they exist, but I've never met anyone who feels it's anywhere close to okay.
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Evidently people in the medical community think they are ok. As long as they don’t act.
 
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gcbvol said:
Oh, I am capable of love. There is simply zero sexual attraction. I don't recall ever having an erotic dream involving women. Have you ever had an erotic dream involving a man? If not, you understand. We're just opposites.
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not to make light of the discussion, or completely derail the conversation, but do you ever get tricked by women who dress like men or have a quality that you find attractive in men? Not like trans or drag/reverse drag, but just some part looks like a guy, and you find yourself being temporarily attracted to that physical asset despite it being on the wrong gender?

Like for me, I see someone ahead of me in yoga pants, with a nice looking butt, I think dang that chicks got a nice butt. Eventually they turn around and its a dude, and the moments ruined. no longer interested in their butt. I am not quiet sure what the equivalent would be, and don't want to assume what you are attracted to, but I imagine its happened. just curious.

and I am sure I opened myself up to some comments there.
 
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allvol123 said:
So again, you’re just on the spectrum now if you are attracted to children. Nothing wrong with you. Just who you are.

It is only a problem if you act on it. That is not moving closer?
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I look at it like the jail bait problem. are you a pedo for finding a girl attractive that you think "should" be 18, but turns out to be younger?
 
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LouderVol said:
I look at it like the jail bait problem. are you a pedo for finding a girl attractive that you think "should" be 18, but turns out to be younger?
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I don’t that is what we are discussing here. The blurred line of someone right on some particular age group. I am discussing adults fully aware that what they are attracted to and aroused by, are children. These people are now just part of the sexuality spectrum.
 
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allvol123 said:
Evidently people in the medical community think they are ok. As long as they don’t act.
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All I can tell you is that as a gay man I will continue to do everything in my power to protect children from harm. Please trust there are a lot more like me.
 
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LouderVol said:
not to make light of the discussion, or completely derail the conversation, but do you ever get tricked by women who dress like men or have a quality that you find attractive in men? Not like trans or drag/reverse drag, but just some part looks like a guy, and you find yourself being temporarily attracted to that physical asset despite it being on the wrong gender?

Like for me, I see someone ahead of me in yoga pants, with a nice looking butt, I think dang that chicks got a nice butt. Eventually they turn around and its a dude, and the moments ruined. no longer interested in their butt. I am not quiet sure what the equivalent would be, and don't want to assume what you are attracted to, but I imagine its happened. just curious.

and I am sure I opened myself up to some comments there.
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WTF do you hang out? I've never seen a man in yoga pants. Thankfully.
 
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LouderVol said:
not to make light of the discussion, or completely derail the conversation, but do you ever get tricked by women who dress like men or have a quality that you find attractive in men? Not like trans or drag/reverse drag, but just some part looks like a guy, and you find yourself being temporarily attracted to that physical asset despite it being on the wrong gender?

Like for me, I see someone ahead of me in yoga pants, with a nice looking butt, I think dang that chicks got a nice butt. Eventually they turn around and its a dude, and the moments ruined. no longer interested in their butt. I am not quiet sure what the equivalent would be, and don't want to assume what you are attracted to, but I imagine its happened. just curious.

and I am sure I opened myself up to some comments there.
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Can't say that's ever happened. But, it's uncommon for women to appear physically masculine. I suppose it could be possible with a specific butch lesbian, though.
 
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gcbvol said:
All I can tell you is that as a gay man I will continue to do everything in my power to protect children from harm. Please trust there are a lot more like me.
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Hope so. I’ve not seen the separation from gay community on this issue that I would have liked. I’ve seen isolated comments from people like you but nothing on a movement level.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Jesus.

Social media is making the kids gay thru chemical reactions created by kids validating each other, next on Alex Jones.
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Does anyone take you seriously? A 12 year old getting validation online is a powerful drug. But i respect your opinion on this about as much as any other subject.
 
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LouderVol said:
not to make light of the discussion, or completely derail the conversation, but do you ever get tricked by women who dress like men or have a quality that you find attractive in men? Not like trans or drag/reverse drag, but just some part looks like a guy, and you find yourself being temporarily attracted to that physical asset despite it being on the wrong gender?

Like for me, I see someone ahead of me in yoga pants, with a nice looking butt, I think dang that chicks got a nice butt. Eventually they turn around and its a dude, and the moments ruined. no longer interested in their butt. I am not quiet sure what the equivalent would be, and don't want to assume what you are attracted to, but I imagine its happened. just curious.

and I am sure I opened myself up to some comments there.
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I thought I was done with this thread, but this post pulled me right back in! Lol.
 
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allvol123 said:
I don’t that is what we are discussing here. The blurred line of someone right on some particular age group. I am discussing adults fully aware that what they are attracted to and aroused by, are children. These people are now just part of the sexuality spectrum.
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I guess my point is that "no you aren't a pedo for finding someone under the legal age attractive".

what about all the simps for various child stars, or singers. "Oh I can't wait until she is 18 so she can be naked on TV/internet/hustler", they very clearly find the girl attractive, and are not getting tricked. because I think there you are going to grab up a large chunk of the male population.
 
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LouderVol said:
I guess my point is that "no you aren't a pedo for finding someone under the legal age attractive".

what about all the simps for various child stars, or singers. "Oh I can't wait until she is 18 so she can be naked on TV/internet/hustler", they very clearly find the girl attractive, and are not getting tricked. because I think there you are going to grab up a large chunk of the male population.
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This was a long way of saying louder likes to rob the cradle.
 
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gcbvol said:
Can't say that's ever happened. But, it's uncommon for women to appear physically masculine. I suppose it could be possible with a specific butch lesbian, though.
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you should come to trivia at Sweetwater. There is a woman there that is freaking jacked. almost to the point where you can't tell she's a woman, at this point I am convinced her tits are fake because they don't match the rest of her body fat. but if you are drawn to large, well defined, and vascular muscles, this lady has them. still has long hair, dresses feminine, make up, is typically hanging on to a guy. was probably attractive but I like women with curves.

@hog88 there will be some guys in yoga pants there too. and they aren't openly playing for gcb's team.
 
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