10 a year mill for saban

#77
#77
tvolsfan said:
This is just sad.

Here's another way of looking at this. Historically, Tennessee is the second best team in the SEC. Next year, Tennessee will be the second SEC team to win 800 games.

If Tennessee is happy with 8-4, they should let all the fans know Tennessee has no intention of remaining competitive with it's rivals. Furthermore, Tennessee should stop spending money on facilities and cut back on it's recruiting budget.
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Get real - before you get to 10-2 or 12-0 you have to be able to convincingly win 8-4 as almost a given...something that is darn hard to do in today's SEC. If after 3 years, Butch has had 3 seasons of 8-4 or 9-3 with winning bowl games - how much MORE likely do you think it is that we could actually GET a Saban/Urban type coach with the right money?

Right now, you are smoking dope to think that ANY coach who is at the top of the heap already would lead our program for any amount of money we could pay. The only way to get that guy is to get someone who was top of the little pile and hope he can do it in the bigger pond. I am hoping Butch can pull it off - but if not, I am pretty confident that he can at least get us to a level where we can be seriously attractive again - both to players and coaches - because we are winners and not just because of our fanbase size and the money.
 
#78
#78
Gandalf said:
Get real - before you get to 10-2 or 12-0 you have to be able to convincingly win 8-4 as almost a given...something that is darn hard to do in today's SEC. If after 3 years, Butch has had 3 seasons of 8-4 or 9-3 with winning bowl games - how much MORE likely do you think it is that we could actually GET a Saban/Urban type coach with the right money?

Right now, you are smoking dope to think that ANY coach who is at the top of the heap already would lead our program for any amount of money we could pay. The only way to get that guy is to get someone who was top of the little pile and hope he can do it in the bigger pond. I am hoping Butch can pull it off - but if not, I am pretty confident that he can at least get us to a level where we can be seriously attractive again - both to players and coaches - because we are winners and not just because of our fanbase size and the money.
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Nonsense. Arkansas certainly isn't any better a job than Tennessee, and they just hired a guy who's been to three Rose Bowls in a row. They're paying him about the same as we're paying a guy who's never coached anywhere other than the minor leagues. You've got battered wife syndrome if you think we couldn't have done any better. Instead we conducted a minor-league coaching search and got minor-league results.
 
#79
#79
Volt said:
$20 million and we could get Saban and Gruden. Come on now. Think big.
Or we can just wait for the Butchslapping to begin. I say go Butch.
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HAH, the term "butchslapping" is brilliant. Hopefully we can make it happen early and often. :eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
#80
#80
VolHeel said:
What a stupid, pointless thread.Who cares? If I had $10,000,000 I'd set you up with some spelling lessons and a monkey that slapped you every time you had a notion to start another thread like this in the future.
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OK, I totally disagree with you, but I am officially one of your 11 'Likes'.:lolabove:
 
#81
#81
1st to say Saben is God! It just kills me that Alabama is has won 3/4 NC's.
 
#83
#83
there's another saban type coach out there somewhere--UT needs to find him and pay whatever it takes.
 
#84
#84
Saban make around 5 mill....so does this mean that Butch Jones @ 3 mill will get us 66% of Saban's record...it would be an improvement
 
#86
#86
Vercingetorix said:
Nonsense. Arkansas certainly isn't any better a job than Tennessee, and they just hired a guy who's been to three Rose Bowls in a row. They're paying him about the same as we're paying a guy who's never coached anywhere other than the minor leagues. You've got battered wife syndrome if you think we couldn't have done any better. Instead we conducted a minor-league coaching search and got minor-league results.
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Getting Bielema to follow 3 years of a Petrino built program of 34-17 (and one year of Smith blowing it as interim) - is NOT the same as trying to get someone to follow 4 years of the path of destruction made by Kiffen then Dooley. They had a successful program before Petrino went wild - not national caliber but solid - something to build on. UT? we have a program that Kiffen all but destroyed and Dooley mismanaged. Not nearly as attractive - except to those of us who see everything through orange colored glasses.
 
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#87
Gandalf said:
Getting Bielema to follow 3 years of a Petrino built program of 34-17 (and one year of Smith blowing it as interim) - is NOT the same as trying to get someone to follow 4 years of the path of destruction made by Kiffen then Dooley. They had a successful program before Petrino went wild - not national caliber but solid - something to build on. UT? we have a program that Kiffen all but destroyed and Dooley mismanaged. Not nearly as attractive - except to those of us who see everything through orange colored glasses.
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Arkansas was a dumpster fire before Petrino, and they promptly collapsed without him. Their program isn't any more stable than ours is, and even our mediocre recruiting has been better than theirs the last few years so we should have at least as much talent on the roster right now as they do. They play in the same division as Alabama and LSU so their path to the SECCG is harder. Knoxville is much nicer than Fayetteville. Saying that the UT job is "not nearly as attractive" is just silly. The only thing better about that job right now is that their administration is apparently far more serious about winning.
 
#88
#88
Vercingetorix said:
Minnesota's been in their time of rebuilding for 50 years. Sometimes it's not a cycle. We're in a conference full of teams with vastly better recruiting bases than we do; becoming a permanent has-been is a legitimate risk.

Come back to this board in four or five years if Jones is finishing middle of the pack in the SEC. Overwhelming sentiment will be that he's doing a good job and he loves UT and remember how awful it was under Dooley. The minority who will want to cut bait and move on will be called miserable aholes and terrible fans.
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You're preparing for failure before giving Butch Jones a fair shake you miserable son of a *****.

Your sentiment is the reason we got rid of Fulmer and the reason we're in this position in the first place. :finger3::finger3::finger3:
 
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#89
#89
saban couldn't win at TN...dude only goes to schools in states that have talent...the state of TN doesn't...dudes a pansy and wouldn't do it...
 
#90
#90
VolHeel said:
What a stupid, pointless thread.Who cares? If I had $10,000,000 I'd set you up with some spelling lessons and a monkey that slapped you every time you had a notion to start another thread like this in the future.
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I belly laughed at that one! That made my side hurt. Thanks, I needed that!
 
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#93
dembewbs said:
saban couldn't win at TN...dude only goes to schools in states that have talent...the state of TN doesn't...dudes a pansy and wouldn't do it...
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Hold your tongue! And where are Barrett and Harrison Jones from, pray tell?
 
#94
#94
bamawriter said:
Alabama may be the 5th or 6th most talent rich state in the country.
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Tis true for there is nowhere to go and little else for bama children to do but practice football in hopes that one day they will play well enough to escape.
 
#96
#96
SpiritOfNeyland said:
You're preparing for failure before giving Butch Jones a fair shake you miserable son of a *****.

Your sentiment is the reason we got rid of Fulmer and the reason we're in this position in the first place. :finger3::finger3::finger3:
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Phil Fulmer's inability to keep up with the modern SEC, both in recruiting and coaching, is why we're in this position in the first place. I'm not "preparing for failure"; I'm just speculating what nimrods like you will say if it ever becomes apparent that Butch Jones can't win the SEC. A bunch of our fans will bend over and take anything from a coach as long as he says anything nice about us. I would explain this to you further but anyone who thinks that firing Phil Fulmer is how we got here in the first place isn't worth trying to have a discussion with. Have a nice day.
 
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#97
#97
On a more entertaining note...

Nick Saban, Alabama - ESPN

Here's the audio clip from "Mike and Mike in the Morning" where
they interviewed Saban...about 7:15min in they ask him the burning
question about if he would consider
going to the NFL and has he "closed the door" on that.

That's when he "goes off" about how everyone
keeps asking him that and the
"hinges are worn out on that door by now"...

I think his voice was squeaking he was so irritated...LOL!!!

GO VOLS!!!
 
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#98
#98
white65 said:
If we would offer saban 10 million with a 3 million assistant salary pool we would get a championship in 4 years. you can shoot me down and it is a crazy amount of money but hes a speacial coach.

Now back in reality I support Butch 100% and think we will do fine, and maby win the east, but goodness. Its not really about them beat ND that was expected. Its the 3 championships in 4 years that makes me think we will never beat bama with him coaching there without bama having a bad game.
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We were the limp leg of a future Navy SEAL and the big bouncing man tits of Mount Cody away from doing it in 2009. **** Alabama.
 
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