'10 LA QB Benton "Munchie" Legaux

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Hens67 said:
I have actually seen a bunch of QB's vids with better mechanics than Legaux. He just doesn't scream QB to me when I see him. He would be one helluva WR at 6'4 200lbs. Good skills with the ball in his hand. He needs to stop that palming crap though.
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To me, Munchie just doesn't appear to be a natural passer. His physical attributes are impressive, but like you said, his mechanics need a lot of work.
 
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He would go elsewhere as a QB much like Chris Jordan went to Bama as a rb.....And like Michael Goggans went to Aururn as a TE.

Both of those battles pissed me off. Fulmer told Jordan he was a LB....bama didn't...he is now a LB there. Same with Goggans..Fulmer told him he was a DE....auburn didn't...he is now a DE there
 
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Sabanocchio said:
To me, Munchie just doesn't appear to be a natural passer. His physical attributes are impressive, but like you said, his mechanics need a lot of work.
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But when you combine his lack of polish and great mechanics with his athleticism, very solid accuracy, and big arm, he has more potential than the other 3...

The only combine that I've found he has been to so far is the one that was in Georgia in late April...

From UGAs Rivals site:
Louisiana's Munchie Legaux is a player who has Rivals100potential, but is still very raw in terms of technique, throwing motion, and pocket presence. But at 6-foot-4, he still has the arm and athleticisms that will make him a hot commodity during the 2010 recruiting cycle.
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From Barton Simmons:
Working out of the shotgun most of his junior season, Legaux wanted to answer questions about his footwork and also prove that he is more than just an athlete. Both of those questions were answered on Friday.

"I'm trying to get my name out there," Legaux said. "I was happy. I threw the ball well. A lot of people saw my drops and my footwork. A lot of people were questioning could I be a quarterback in college and I just had to prove to them today that I can be a quarterback."

Legaux is thin but has good height and a nice frame. He also has a live arm and though he is still raw as a passer, showed a lot of upside on Friday.
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Whoever Kiffin and Chaney must really like what they saw from him at this camp. It was held on April 26th I think. Munchie recieved his offer from UT almost 2 weeks later around May 10th. And for anyone who's wondering, Hendrix recieved his offer on May 8th...

Munchie quote from a Scout article on May 11:
“Tennessee just offered me, and that is my latest,” he said. “The coaches said that I am the type of quarterback they are looking for, and they need one in this class."
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Hens67 said:
He would go elsewhere as a QB much like Chris Jordan went to Bama as a rb.....And like Michael Goggans went to Aururn as a TE.

Both of those battles pissed me off. Fulmer told Jordan he was a LB....bama didn't...he is now a LB there. Same with Goggans..Fulmer told him he was a DE....auburn didn't...he is now a DE there
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It goes both ways. Michigan told Jason Witten he was a TE. Fulmer didn't. Witten comes here as a DE. We know how that ended up.
 
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the thing is this though..we dont need a project like this kid..will take a few years to teach all those things...footwork, delivery, shortening motion, breaking the tendency to palm the ball, breaking the tendency to pull it down and take off to early, he stares down wr's a bit too

all of that will take time

we need a polished guy to come in right away...which is why we need to look elsewhere for our needs at qb....

but yeah i see the fact that athleticism can overcome alot and might actually give him a higher ceiling...but a lof of kids never reach that ceiling

now we should take munchie..no doubt...but he would probably see the field first at another position..JMO
 
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Lord Vader said:
But when you combine his lack of polish and great mechanics with his athleticism, very solid accuracy, and big arm, he has more potential than the other 3...

The only combine that I've found he has been to so far is the one that was in Georgia in late April...

From UGAs Rivals site:


From Barton Simmons:


Whoever Kiffin and Chaney must really like what they saw from him at this camp. It was held on April 26th I think. Munchie recieved his offer from UT almost 2 weeks later around May 10th. And for anyone who's wondering, Hendrix recieved his offer on May 8th...

Munchie quote from a Scout article on May 11:
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Athleticism does not = upside. You can't tell much, if anything about his accuracy from his film. His throwing motion and footwork are very poor. I think the coaches see Munchie as a "last resort" type player but wanted to get in on him early to save their spot in line, so to speak.

Again, this is a case of the stats not telling the whole tale. It's hard to dispute what you see on film which is an extremely raw, dual-threat QB that may or may not make it as a passer at this level.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Athleticism does not = upside. You can't tell much, if anything about his accuracy from his film. His throwing motion and footwork are very poor. I think the coaches see Munchie as a "last resort" type player but wanted to get in on him early to save their spot in line, so to speak.

Again, this is a case of the stats not telling the whole tale. It's hard to dispute what you see on film which is an extremely raw, dual-threat QB that may or may not make it as a passer at this level.
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so compared to hendrix you think his throwing motion and footwork are sub par ??? wow we must be watching completely differnt film or have the names mixed up or something LOL
 
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orange_fan_inVa said:
so compared to hendrix you think his throwing motion and footwork are sub par ??? wow we must be watching completely differnt film or have the names mixed up or something LOL
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Huh? Have you watched Hendrix's film? He's very solid mechanically. Very fluid with his throws with above-average footwork. His mechanics are what has impressed me the most about him. He has a live arm too, but many quarterbacks have good arms. His throwing motion and how he sets his feet each time he throws is what sets him apart. He does things that you just can't teach. He's a very natural passer.

It's not just me that thinks that. Go compare their evals on ESPN.com. I'm guessing that they have similar things to say.
 
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I'll do it for you. From ESPN regarding Hendrix.

Gets back and set quickly in the pocket, feet are balanced and he shows poise and confidence surveying the field.

Delivery mechanics are sound and consistent. Release is fairly compact and he is capable of driving off his plant foot and deriving excellent power when he transfers his weight through his hips. Overall accuracy is very good and even through he displays a great arm, he can change ball speeds a bit too.
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And on Munchie:

Mechanics need some refinement, but he possesses a quick release, although low, with good wrist snap. Has a whip-like, sidearm delivery that negates his height, but the ball comes out with some pop on underneath and intermediate throws.

Overall accuracy is entirely dependent on his footwork. He will spray the ball around a bit if he is unsettled.
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I trust my own eyes more than any recruiting service to be completely honest, but when they back up what I feel based on what I see on film, I tend to put more stock into what they're saying.
 
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Mechanics need some refinement, but he possesses a quick release, although low, with good wrist snap. Has a whip-like, sidearm delivery that negates his height, but the ball comes out with some pop on underneath and intermediate throws.
Overall, Legaux is green as a passer, but shows upside to develop nicely in the right scheme. Good prospect.
About Munchie

Hendrix could be the biggest sleeper in this class not only as a powerful pocket passer, but also as a deceptively good athlete. He possesses adequate-to-good height and a solid build. Arm strength is outstanding and he is one of the few players in this class with natural downfield power and terrific wrist snap and velocity on all throws.

Foot speed is good for the position and overall athleticism is very good. Gets back and set quickly in the pocket, feet are balanced and he shows poise and confidence surveying the field. Shows good ball handling skills, can freeze defenders with play fakes and can make the deep sideline throws from the opposite hash off play action. Has shown the ability to work through progressions, side-step the rush, keep eyes downfield and deliver the ball on time. Can compensate on late throws with arm strength and is more than capable of fitting the ball into tight spots in all three phases of the field-- short, intermediate and deep. Delivery mechanics are sound and consistent. Release is fairly compact and he is capable of driving off his plant foot and deriving excellent power when he transfers his weight through his hips. Overall accuracy is very good and even through he displays a great arm, he can change ball speeds a bit too.

About Hendrix
 
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bburger991 said:
Mechanics need some refinement, but he possesses a quick release, although low, with good wrist snap. Has a whip-like, sidearm delivery that negates his height, but the ball comes out with some pop on underneath and intermediate throws.
Overall, Legaux is green as a passer, but shows upside to develop nicely in the right scheme. Good prospect.
About Munchie
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This sounds a lot like Vince Young. Great Athlete, but pro-style QB, not so much.

However, I guess Kiffin and staff like him and that is good enough for me.
 
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from what i saw they both need a good bit of polishing, we have the right people to do that, and from what im seeing with munchie from my experence he has a strong arm and he feels so confident in his arm he isnt using his lower body correctly.


which can be fixed easy enough.
 
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Hens67 said:
the thing is this though..we dont need a project like this kid..will take a few years to teach all those things...footwork, delivery, shortening motion, breaking the tendency to palm the ball, breaking the tendency to pull it down and take off to early, he stares down wr's a bit too
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No matter which QB we sign, they will not be making an immediate impact as freshmen and will not start. That's why we are looking so hard at Juco QBs. The staff does not have confidence that ANY of these QBs are the answer in the near future. Sab agrees with me on this point...

Sabanocchio said:
Athleticism does not = upside. You can't tell much, if anything about his accuracy from his film. His throwing motion and footwork are very poor. I think the coaches see Munchie as a "last resort" type player but wanted to get in on him early to save their spot in line, so to speak.
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Well considering him and Hendrix got their UT offers on purty much the same day and that we are going hard after both of them, I guess they both can be considered as last resorts...

According to the description of Munchie at the GA camp (which is apparently what UT offered him on), he answered the questions about his dropbacks and his footwork...

And I agree, athleticism alone does not equal upside. But combine that athleticism with a strong arm, 68% completion %, a guy who stands 6-4, and the ability of him to become polished and mechanically sound after a couple of years with this staff...
 
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orange_fan_inVa said:
from what i saw they both need a good bit of polishing, we have the right people to do that, and from what im seeing with munchie from my experence he has a strong arm and he feels so confident in his arm he isnt using his lower body correctly.


which can be fixed easy enough.
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I don't see anyway you can watch both of these guys' films and not see a huge disparity in terms of mechanics between the two. You are obviously seeing something that no one else that watches them is.
 
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Lord Vader said:
No matter which QB we sign, they will not be making an immediate impact as freshmen and will not start. That's why we are looking so hard at Juco QBs. The staff does not have confidence that ANY of these QBs are the answer in the near future. Sab agrees with me on this point...



Well considering him and Hendrix got their UT offers on purty much the same day and that we are going hard after both of them, I guess they both can be considered as last resorts...

According to the description of Munchie at the GA camp (which is apparently what UT offered him on), he answered the questions about his dropbacks and his footwork...

And I agree, athleticism alone does not equal upside. But combine that athleticism with a strong arm, 68% completion %, a guy who stands 6-4, and the ability of him to become polished and mechanically sound after a couple of years with this staff...
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Hendrix is an inch shorter, has virtually the same speed, is much more mature in terms of his frame and is far ahead of Legaux in terms of mechanics. His throwing motion allows for a much higher delivery then Legaux so the height difference is completely negated. If the coaches don't prefer him over Legaux, then I would be completely shocked. They aren't as hung up on stats as you are believe it or not.
 
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does hendrix have an offer yet ? i dont see one on scout or rivals, im sure its coming, and maybe i am seeing something differnt, i coach qb's at my old hs.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Hendrix is an inch shorter, has virtually the same speed, is much more mature in terms of his frame and is far ahead of Legaux in terms of mechanics. His throwing motion allows for a much higher delivery then Legaux so the height difference is completely negated. If the coaches don't prefer him over Legaux, then I would be completely shocked. They aren't as hung up on stats as you are believe it or not.
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I am with you Sab. I like Hendrix about as well as any QB we have offered. I believe this kid is really going to make a good college QB. I am just not sure about Munchie. I have to believe our staff thinks they can make him a good QB since he has been offered, but he just doesn't seem to fit our system. I watched his youtube video and he ran the ball 19 times and never took a snap under center. Most of his passes were 10 yards or less with the exception of just a few for maybe 20 yards. Hendrix on the other hand stands in the pocket, makes good throws, has a strong arm and can move pretty well himself.
 
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