10 Most Overpaid College Coaches

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He is near the bottom of the conference. No way is he overpaid when you consider his salary in that context.

Also - one thing about salary numbers. Jones' base salary is $2.95m He probably is close to or around $3.2m if you factor in his bonus for APR rate increase and prorate his $500,000 signing bonus.
 
#27
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when bamer first hired saban I thought $4m was astronomical, that one really raised the bar. Performance based salaries are more practical and those ridiculous by out clauses should be not be included in contracts. Where else does one get compensated for failure . :two cents: Leave out the politics please!
 
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James Franklin should top this list!! Butch is more proven than him!!! I say the writer is overpaid. (Franklin has a 6 year 27 million contract. 4.5 million a year!! That's insane and he hasn't coached a game at Penn State...He had good success at Vandie and a large part of that foundation was Bobby Johnson's recruits. Franklin had a TON of luck fall on his side at Vandie, a TON....He squeaked out wins against opponents with mainly losing records)

Also, Iowa's coach is a damn good coach! Highly regarded in the coaching circles as one of the best!!! Tommy Tuberville will be elected into the Hall of Fame as a coach..............

That being said, the days of under 2.5-3 million dollar coaches is a thing of the past. 2.5-3.5 million a year is the old 1 million a year. The writer is stuck in time 10 years ago. It's the new norm and the going market........

Everything is more expensive. Tickets, merchandise, travel expenses, donation expectations, mega TV contracts, normal inflation. The writer isn't taking these things into consideration.

I remember the few coaches that reached 1 million a year in the 1990s, it was out of this world, unheard of.....
 
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Tennkook said:
This "article" was written without much research beyond salary vs record.

It would be similar to an article stating top ten places to not take a road trip. Then placing Cali on the list because of gas prices...

We can pay a coach 2.9 (what they are calling 3.2) and get a coach that has shown a record of success and steady improvement everywhere he has gone, or pay 2.2 and get Mark Stoops. Tell me again how we over paid...
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madbamahater said:
James Franklin should top this list!! Butch is more proven than him!!! I say the writer is overpaid. (Franklin has a 6 year 27 million contract. 4.5 million a year!! That's insane and he hasn't coached a game at Penn State...He had good success at Vandie and a large part of that foundation was Bobby Johnson's recruits. Franklin had a TON of luck fall on his side at Vandie, a TON....He squeaked out wins against opponents with mainly losing records)

Also, Iowa's coach is a damn good coach! Highly regarded in the coaching circles as one of the best!!! Tommy Tuberville will be elected into the Hall of Fame as a coach..............

That being said, the days of under 2.5-3 million dollar coaches is a thing of the past. 2.5-3.5 million a year is the old 1 million a year. The writer is stuck in time 10 years ago. It's the new norm and the going market........

Everything is more expensive. Tickets, merchandise, travel expenses, donation expectations, mega TV contracts, normal inflation. The writer isn't taking these things into consideration.

I remember the few coaches that reached 1 million a year in the 1990s, it was out of this world, unheard of.....
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You're insane, Penn St. got a bargain in Franklin. He will win big there. The fact that he won with Johnson's recruits doesn't make your point, it makes mine. He has a top 5 class in the making after 5 months on the job and will be competing for the Big 10 title within 3-4 years. Until Jones proves otherwise, I would take Franklin him over him in a New York minute - sorry, but its the truth.
 
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fade route said:
You're insane, Penn St. got a bargain in Franklin. He will win big there. The fact that he won with Johnson's recruits doesn't make your point, it makes mine. He has a top 5 class in the making after 5 months on the job and will be competing for the Big 10 title within 3-4 years. Until Jones proves otherwise, I would take Franklin him over him in a New York minute - sorry, but its the truth.
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Franklin will win big at Penn State? How do you know? Because of rivals rankings? Man, I understand your man crush Clay. But if you really make a fair assessment of Franklin at Vandie, I'm not sure if he beat a team with a winning record. He escaped the likes of playing LSU and Bamer. It was perfect timing for him the way the east has sucked horribly and unusually badly the last few years. Penn State got a bargain damn near paying him Nick Saban money? Dude, you are an embarrassment with your over the top love for him. It just simply isn't justified. Franklin is very unproven. Kiffin had top classes too. They both YouTube recruit....if Franklin wins big at Penn State I will eat my words. But, most coaches could have success at Penn State. They typically play nobodies outside of Ohio State and an occasional other Big Ten team. Apples to Oranges...
 
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madbamahater said:
Franklin will win big at Penn State? How do you know? Because of rivals rankings? Man, I understand your man crush Clay. But if you really make a fair assessment of Franklin at Vandie, I'm not sure if he beat a team with a winning record. He escaped the likes of playing LSU and Bamer. It was perfect timing for him the way the east has sucked horribly and unusually badly the last few years. Penn State got a bargain damn near paying him Nick Saban money? Dude, you are an embarrassment with your over the top love for him. It just simply isn't justified. Franklin is very unproven. Kiffin had top classes too. They both YouTube recruit....if Franklin wins big at Penn State I will eat my words. But, most coaches could have success at Penn State. They typically play nobodies outside of Ohio State and an occasional other Big Ten team. Apples to Oranges...
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You're letting your personal hatred of him cloud your judgement of his coaching ability. What he accomplished at Vandy with 2* talent hasn't been done in their school's history. We can agree to disagree, but I'm pretty confident that I will be proven right on this one.
 
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There is some serious Cincy hate in that article. The most recent two coaches and the current one made the list.

Jones is an unknown but it is quite early to say he's the most overpaid coach in the country. His recruiting alone could make him a good investment if things don't work out in a couple of years. Weis probably deserves to be on top along with Ferentz.
 
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Cyclopskiller said:
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fade route said:
You're letting your personal hatred of him cloud your judgement of his coaching ability. What he accomplished at Vandy with 2* talent hasn't been done in their school's history. We can agree to disagree, but I'm pretty confident that I will be proven right on this one.
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I don't hate anyone and certainly not him. My name, madbamahater, is from a saying that was popular in the 80s and early 90s. Like I got mad skills (like really good at something). So I'm not a mad person, just really good at hating Bamer. But, that is understandable and acceptable hate to all of man kind.....

On the other hand, if I were hiring a coach for that type of insane money, I would want someone way more proven. You are fudging the facts to support your love for Franklin. I get it! But, barely beating teams with losing records and squeaking into lower tier bowl games as a result aren't enough for me to pay him record breaking money. I don't care where said coach actually coached. Bobby Johnson greatly improved that roster while he was there and put Vandie on the map. If you fail to recognize this then it's based off of your hate of Johnson. I still say it was more of a perfect storm for Franklin at Vandie. I think in his heart, he knows this. That's why he was shopping around. Vandie was ready to pony up for him but he wanted OUT.... Sorry!
 
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madbamahater said:
James Franklin should top this list!! Butch is more proven than him!!! I say the writer is overpaid. (Franklin has a 6 year 27 million contract. 4.5 million a year!! That's insane and he hasn't coached a game at Penn State...He had good success at Vandie and a large part of that foundation was Bobby Johnson's recruits. Franklin had a TON of luck fall on his side at Vandie, a TON....He squeaked out wins against opponents with mainly losing records)

Also, Iowa's coach is a damn good coach! Highly regarded in the coaching circles as one of the best!!! Tommy Tuberville will be elected into the Hall of Fame as a coach..............

That being said, the days of under 2.5-3 million dollar coaches is a thing of the past. 2.5-3.5 million a year is the old 1 million a year. The writer is stuck in time 10 years ago. It's the new norm and the going market........

Everything is more expensive. Tickets, merchandise, travel expenses, donation expectations, mega TV contracts, normal inflation. The writer isn't taking these things into consideration.

I remember the few coaches that reached 1 million a year in the 1990s, it was out of this world, unheard of.....
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I always told Vandy fans that Franklin would be gone in either one or two more seasons. He was lucky

(1) Vandy was not dedicated to the football program for decades, then just by luck, David Williams decides to be dedicated to the football program. Had Frankllin came in under a different Vandy regime, he would not have had the tools or support to improve the program.

(2) He did improve the program. Noticeable changes were made BUT he beat up on S.E.C. teams that had losing records. When Vandy played MIssouri, notice what happened. IT wasn't even close. NOtice what happened when Vandy played "O Bama" It wasn't even close.

He had four soft non conference games. Methodist, UMass, etc. etc. then he beat a down trodden U.T., Kentucky, Ole Miss. He gets lucky and beats Florida this past season. He averages 7 wins a season.


Franklin knew that he would soon have to play LSU, Auburn and the S.E.C. would require all teams play at least one difficult non conference game per season.

HE left when his stock was the highest!!!!!
 
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Most major FB coaches seem to be overpaid. It would be interesting to know the difference in salaries 50 yrs ago to now, in relation to value of the dollar and cost of living.
Not only do coaches get paid big...but doubt they have to pay for much.
 
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fade route said:
You're insane, Penn St. got a bargain in Franklin. He will win big there. The fact that he won with Johnson's recruits doesn't make your point, it makes mine. He has a top 5 class in the making after 5 months on the job and will be competing for the Big 10 title within 3-4 years. Until Jones proves otherwise, I would take Franklin him over him in a New York minute - sorry, but its the truth.
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KBVol said:
Dumbass who wrote this article could stand a good old fashioned Econ 101 lesson not taught by a Marxist zero sum game type professor.
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One he is in SEC and paid below average for SEC Coaches. Two, unlike federal guvment, UT isn't under central government planning. We pay for top talent and put incentive on winning or being replaced. CBJ does have a very good record... except for last year. He deserves $3.2 million just for recruiting alone!
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Coaching salaries should be looked at as compared to the rest in the conference, and also as a bar of expectations that is there.

According to Saturday Down South, the only coaches paid less than Butch are Gary Pinkel (who I'm sure I got a raise after their season), Dan Mullen, and Mark Stoops.

You could make a case that all of the coaches above Butch Jones (except maybe Muschamp) have earned it.

Butch has laid a good foundation in his first year, and got a pass for a 5-7 record. And landing a Top 5 recruiting class, and doing excellent PR is helping his cause.

I don't think he's overpaid. I think we paid what we needed to to get a decent coach to risk his career here at Tennessee, in the middle of the hardest stretch in history.

Plus, he beat a ranked opponent his first year. That was a dry spell that needed to be broken.

Don't think he's overpaid, but he definitely needs to show an improvement in the W-L column to get a raise.
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All excellent points, add to it a Coach eats breaths and sleeps UT football. He is getting his team ready and recruited for his system. He will see if he can put his systems into play in the SEC. We are probably not going to see a CBJ Signature Team until 2016, team #120. Self Discipline improved, Recruiting improved, Academic improvement, Strength & Conditioning improved, and the list goes on.

I think we see record improvement this year.
 
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