10 Most Overpaid College Coaches

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fade route said:
You're insane, Penn St. got a bargain in Franklin. He will win big there. The fact that he won with Johnson's recruits doesn't make your point, it makes mine. He has a top 5 class in the making after 5 months on the job and will be competing for the Big 10 title within 3-4 years. Until Jones proves otherwise, I would take Franklin him over him in a New York minute - sorry, but its the truth.
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I'm insane? Penn State is rolling the dice and shelling out huge money for someone unproven. Winning with Johnson's recruits prove my point that they were Johnson's recruits. Butch had a top five class too following Dooley and a losing season. That's more impressive than your statement. Butch will compete for the SEC in less than 3-4 years, which trumps competing for the Big 10. Until Franklin proves otherwise, I would take Butch over him in a heart beat. Sorry, but you are the one that needs your head checked.
 
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CountVolcula said:
So 5-7 again will get him off the list?
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Many will make excuses for 5-7 this year....cause the "he gets it". Done with the bs reasons that dont factor in coaching. Coach speak/salespitch be damned.....get us to a bowl game in yr 2---or next!
 
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Will Muschump should be number one. With all the Florida high school talent, Stevie Wonder could win more than four games with da gators
 
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ajvol01 said:
You're the Vandy fan, right?
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Uh...no.

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Yes he is, and apparently the mods are on to him ^
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Ooh...Secret Squirrel...?

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CountVolcula said:
So 5-7 again will get him off the list?
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THIS^^^

GrowVol said:
Many will make excuses for 5-7 this year....cause the "he gets it". Done with the bs reasons that dont factor in coaching. Coach speak/salespitch be damned.....get us to a bowl game in yr 2---or next!
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AND THIS ^^^
 
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ajvol01 said:
You're the Vandy fan, right?
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Yes, he is. Clay Travis IMO.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...we-so-going-destroy-vandy-2.html#post10006293

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/219064-one-zero-zero.html#post10206257

http://www.volnation.com/forum/around-ncaa/212027-james-franklin-supposedly-7.html#post9725184

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...st-pathetic-football-photo-2.html#post9696678

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/211773-caption-photo.html#post9693580

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/211773-caption-photo.html#post9693459

http://www.volnation.com/forum/around-ncaa/211739-vanderbilt.html#post9690943

http://www.volnation.com/forum/arou...in-please-explain-love-guy-3.html#post9635068

http://www.volnation.com/forum/around-ncaa/210915-mack-brown-out-texas-10.html#post9635067
 
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madbamahater said:
I don't hate anyone and certainly not him. My name, madbamahater, is from a saying that was popular in the 80s and early 90s. Like I got mad skills (like really good at something). So I'm not a mad person, just really good at hating Bamer. But, that is understandable and acceptable hate to all of man kind.....

On the other hand, if I were hiring a coach for that type of insane money, I would want someone way more proven. You are fudging the facts to support your love for Franklin. I get it! But, barely beating teams with losing records and squeaking into lower tier bowl games as a result aren't enough for me to pay him record breaking money. I don't care where said coach actually coached. Bobby Johnson greatly improved that roster while he was there and put Vandie on the map. If you fail to recognize this then it's based off of your hate of Johnson. I still say it was more of a perfect storm for Franklin at Vandie. I think in his heart, he knows this. That's why he was shopping around. Vandie was ready to pony up for him but he wanted OUT.... Sorry!
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fade's right on this one.

first of all, penn state was in a position where they had to overpay. the sanctions the school was given are a big problem most coaches don't want to deal with.

secondly, the "who did he beat" argument is absurd. we're talking about vanderbilt. vanderbilt isn't supposed to beat anyone. while franklin was head coach, vanderbilt beat tennessee (in back to back years), florida, georgia, and auburn.

considering the fact tennessee hasn't beaten florida since 2004, georgia since 2009, and auburn since 1999, i would figure that would earn him some measure of respect.

but, since vandy beat tennessee in back to back seasons for the 1st time since the 1920's, it should more than hit home.

and don't give me the "but, those weren't good teams" argument. he was coaching at vanderbilt.

it's like losing an ass kicking contest to a quadriplegic and using the excuse that you had the flu.

james franklin would have traded rosters with a lot of the teams he beat any day of the week. so, that "they weren't good teams" argument doesn't fly.
 
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smokeyvols said:
Why not wait after CBJ get all his players here first then decide if he is over paid or not. He did came here into the train wreck from Fooley!!
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Dooley wasn't allowed the time to bring "his own" players in, so u suggest a guy making $1mil+/year more to be allowed to wait for "his players" to come in before high expectations of success should be had??

CBJ is getting pd "win now" money. Not saying SECCG or NC this season, but he needs to make a bowl game at MINIMUM this season. Progress each year until he is in the 10+/season in 2-3 yrs. He needs to win like Richt, then if he starts winning championships on a regular then he can start asking for huge increases in pay.

I don't know if he is over pd or not after this past season. If he doesn't make a bowl this season though there will be no doubt or enough excuses to say he isn't overpaid.
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I don't necessarily think its too outrageous that he made the list but disagree with him being #1. His job for these first few season is to rebuild more so than win games. With how he's recruited thus far, I have a hard time agreeing with the article.
 
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Totally just an opinion piece. Insert your own opinion cliché (here).
 
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#64
If they think Butch is overpaid, I guess he didn't see our last coach and his salary.
 
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cgbtn said:
You must not only consider what a coach produces in a job. You must also consider the damage a job may potentially do to a coach. TN has been a growing disaster since Phil retired on the job in 2000. The last 5 years can only be compared to the Titanic. Whoever took this job (even if it was Saban) was guaranteed to be a loser for the 1st two years. If the fans lose patience with Butch before he rights the ship, his hopes of ever coaching again at the major college level are probably dead. I think Watson Brown was one of the most promising young coaches in the country; then he committed career suicide by taking the Vandy job. Butch should be compensated for putting his entire future on the line.
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This is spot on. We're not paying because Butch was a great coach when hired. We're paying big bucks because without paying big bucks we couldn't get any coach with a chance of success to take over the dumpster fire that was Tennessee football two years ago.
 
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If he wins, we'll pay more. Simple as that. Forget about being "overpaid" now. The UTAD probably doesnt think so.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Dooley wasn't allowed the time to bring "his own" players in, so u suggest a guy making $1mil+/year more to be allowed to wait for "his players" to come in before high expectations of success should be had??

CBJ is getting pd "win now" money. Not saying SECCG or NC this season, but he needs to make a bowl game at MINIMUM this season. Progress each year until he is in the 10+/season in 2-3 yrs. He needs to win like Richt, then if he starts winning championships on a regular then he can start asking for huge increases in pay.

I don't know if he is over pd or not after this past season. If he doesn't make a bowl this season though there will be no doubt or enough excuses to say he isn't overpaid.
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Almost any coach needs atleast 3 years before job security should come into question.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Dooley wasn't allowed the time to bring "his own" players in, so u suggest a guy making $1mil+/year more to be allowed to wait for "his players" to come in before high expectations of success should be had??

CBJ is getting pd "win now" money. Not saying SECCG or NC this season, but he needs to make a bowl game at MINIMUM this season. Progress each year until he is in the 10+/season in 2-3 yrs. He needs to win like Richt, then if he starts winning championships on a regular then he can start asking for huge increases in pay.

I don't know if he is over pd or not after this past season. If he doesn't make a bowl this season though there will be no doubt or enough excuses to say he isn't overpaid.
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There, there...it'll be ok Derek.
 
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I think Butch realizes the urgency with which he needs to win. I think that's why you're seeing a mass exodus of attrition, and a signing class of 35 come in, most of whom will play right away.

We will have a much better idea of a Butch Jones football team this year. I expect to see at minimum a bowl game. Anything else, and I'm disappointed. I realize we'll be young, but this will be a fast, talented team. There may be some mental mistakes, but the athleticism and skill will be there. That can win you one you shouldn't have won.
 
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I dont even think this was put together by a human. some computer ranked the top 10 coaches with the highest salary/win record percentage and put pictures on a website with 100 different ads.

It's like how NCAA football games (PS3/Xbox) use to rank the coaches with the least job security. That list was put together the same way.


Hell, I'm just glad we are #1 in something.
 
#73
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KBVol said:
Coach gets paid what the market will bear at the time he's negotiating. A job like Tennessee can afford to pay in the $3 mil range regardless. There are plenty that would argue we went on the cheap with Jones and that we should've paid "stupid money" for a "bigger name". His ~$3mil makes him what, the 10th highest paid SEC coach? Bret Bielema just went 3-9 at Arky and he makes more (and I don't care what he did in the Big 10, he sucked much more than Jones his first SEC season) Muschamp just went 4-8 and he makes more.

Btw, Butch doesn't make $3.2.... he makes $2.9


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Vandy sucks lol
 
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gunner said:
If they think Butch is overpaid, I guess he didn't see our last coach and his salary.
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To be completely fair, the two previous coaches got us to a bowl game their first years with a roster worse than Jones was handed

Granted, Kiffin's schedule was not as tough, Dooley's was.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Dooley wasn't allowed the time to bring "his own" players in, so u suggest a guy making $1mil+/year more to be allowed to wait for "his players" to come in before high expectations of success should be had??

CBJ is getting pd "win now" money. Not saying SECCG or NC this season, but he needs to make a bowl game at MINIMUM this season. Progress each year until he is in the 10+/season in 2-3 yrs. He needs to win like Richt, then if he starts winning championships on a regular then he can start asking for huge increases in pay.

I don't know if he is over pd or not after this past season. If he doesn't make a bowl this season though there will be no doubt or enough excuses to say he isn't overpaid.
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All of "his" players have already been recruited over / aren't adjusting to the new regime. A regime which, by the way, knows how to grow bamboo and knows exactly where Rommel is.

Hence, + $1M / annum salary.
 
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