'12 JUCO DE Demarcus Lawrence (Boise St commit)

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altidore17 said:
How old are you, 12? Go get hype about a dictionary and quit acting you're a football guru. I'll trust the coaches over you, thanks.
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Isn't the point of a message board to give YOUR input. You need to chill out man. From your screen name seems like you need to stick to futbol and not football.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Actually very similar and close..no huge difference in talent. Nobody wanted the honey badger and LSU struck gold with a last second offer. Not one person knows how a kid will turnout.Nobody including evaluators,coach's and definitely nobody on Volnation or Any other board has a clue. You just have to hope they do.
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The good programs have a clue. Of course they're wrong sometimes. But generally speaking, TX, UA, LSU, USC etc. don't have the best classes by happenstance.

Almost every powerhouse school wanted Autry, while only one really has offered Lawrence. Of course they could be wrong, but more often than not, those teams aren't consistently the top programs because they can't recruit. It's just homer spin to think this guy is close to as good a recruit as Autry.
 
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Tha Don said:
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Isn't the point of a message board to give YOUR input. You need to chill out man. From your screen name seems like you need to stick to futbol and not football.
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and he gave his opinion. don't be a hypocrite
 
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BruinVol said:
The on field production is off the charts! How do they compare to Autry?
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Very similar on-field production between the two.

JUCO DE DeMarcus Lawrence:
69 Tackles
21 TFL
12 Sacks
1 Forced Fumble
4 Fumble Recoveries - 1 TD

JUCO DE Denico Autry:
81 Tackles
13 TFL
11 Sacks
2 Forced Fumbles
 
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jmoore_21 said:
This is JMO but an article was written on Lawerence this past Sunday & Tennessee wasnt even mentioned, he said he was down to Boise State/Kansas State & he would be deciding later this week. Autry commits to MSU on Tuesday then out of nowhere this guy shows up on campus yesterday.

Could it be that Autry was indeed a silent & Lawerence was a back up plan & once Autry switched the staff scrambled to get Lawerence in for an OV? Hmmmm......just thinking aloud here.
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BruinVol said:
Is there a button on here that allows us to hear the tone of voice?
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flowd82 said:
Very similar on-field production between the two.

JUCO DE DeMarcus Lawrence:
69 Tackles
21 TFL
12 Sacks
1 Forced Fumble
4 Fumble Recoveries - 1 TD

JUCO DE Denico Autry:
81 Tackles
13 TFL
11 Sacks
2 Forced Fumbles
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Thanks! Did they play the same amount of games? Is there a difference in the competition?
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altidore17 said:
How old are you, 12? Go get hype about a dictionary and quit acting like you're a football guru. I'll trust the coaches over you, thanks.
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You attack me for looking at a film and saying I'm not hyped up about this guy. Dude grow up. Isay he's blowing contain in his highlights. Watch his film. You'll see it. What was our problem last year? Contain from the ends. Why would I as a fan want to see more of the same. Like I said we'll see when he gets here but I'm not going to argue with you dude. Where the hell are you from? You don't even post over here. I evaluating players in some of my off time. If I'm wrong I'm wrong hell rivals misses on a lot of players why can't I??????
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Miss. jucos are a lot better than Kansas IMO. But Couch did play out there if I'm not mistaken.
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Thanks. Do you know if they played the same amount of games? Just comparing stats.

Be careful your tone of voice might make you come across as being a douche!lol
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BruinVol said:
Thanks! Did they play the same amount of games? Is there a difference in the competition?
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Lawrence played for Butler County Community College and played 12 total games. Autry played for East Mississippi Community College and also played in 12 games. I am no expert, but I don't think there is too much difference in the competition.

Lawrence played for a good squad. Butler County CC actually won their conference and region finishing with an 11-1 record and also finishing ranked #2 in the post-season national poll. However, Autry played for the better squad. East Mississippi CC finished #1 in the post-season national poll. Either way they both play the best JUCO competition out there and put up similar numbers.

I also found some differences in the stats posted earlier for Lawrence and the official stats reported of Lawrence from his team's website. This is what Butler County CC's website had Lawrence down for:

66 Total Tackles (47 solo, 19 assist).
27 Tackles For Loss (for a combined -82 yards).
10 Sacks (for a combined -43 yards).
2 Pass Break Ups.
9 Quarterback Hurries.
4 Fumble Recoveries (for a combined 38 yards and TD).
1 Forced Fumble.

A little different than what was posted earlier, but still amazing stats considering the TFL. 27 is ridiculous. That is really getting in the backfield.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Miss. jucos are a lot better than Kansas IMO. But Couch did play out there if I'm not mistaken.
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Not necessarily true. Kansas produces TONS of top JUCO players. Mississippi does too, but it is very close. I wouldn't put one over the other.

Don't forget that Patterson is playing out at Hutchison in Kansas.
 
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Add to that EMCC was putting up NCAA '12 numbers on offense. Most games the defensive line was playing the pass from the second quarter.
 
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flowd82 said:
Lawrence played for Butler County Community College and played 12 total games. Autry played for East Mississippi Community College and also played in 12 games. I am no expert, but I don't think there is too much difference in the competition.

Lawrence played for a good squad. Butler County CC actually won their conference and region finishing with an 11-1 record and also finishing ranked #2 in the post-season national poll. However, Autry played for the better squad. East Mississippi CC finished #1 in the post-season national poll. Either way they both play the best JUCO competition out there and put up similar numbers.

I also found some differences in the stats posted earlier for Lawrence and the official stats reported of Lawrence from his team's website. This is what Butler County CC's website had Lawrence down for:

66 Total Tackles (47 solo, 19 assist).
27 Tackles For Loss (for a combined -82 yards).
10 Sacks (for a combined -43 yards).
2 Pass Break Ups.
9 Quarterback Hurries.
4 Fumble Recoveries (for a combined 38 yards and TD).
1 Forced Fumble.

A little different than what was posted earlier, but still amazing stats considering the TFL. 27 is ridiculous. That is really getting in the backfield.
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I know that the best evaluaters of talent don't look at stats but it is very hard to ignore that kind of productivity.
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d3ft punk said:
Add to that EMCC was putting up NCAA '12 numbers on offense. Most games the defensive line was playing the pass from the second quarter.
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I saw that too. Autry won't play from ahead a lot at Miss. State.

Also on the Kansas vs Mississippi jucos debate. They are very close. I'm a bit biased sometimes to the South. Lol but both produce top talent along with California.
 
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I had to go the JUCO route out of high school so I could accept a 4 year offer. This was years back, I was at U.C.C.C. in New York, at that time the top rated Jucos were Dupage out of Chicago area, Nassau out of NYC area & the top dog was Cofeyville out of Kansas. California & Mississippi are loaded with juco programs so the talent is spread out, to give you an idea NY only has two juco football programs left. Long time ago but seems like Kansas has remained strong. J.M.O. GO BIG ORANGE
 
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ETNVol said:
The good programs have a clue. Of course they're wrong sometimes. But generally speaking, TX, UA, LSU, USC etc. don't have the best classes by happenstance.

Almost every powerhouse school wanted Autry, while only one really has offered Lawrence. Of course they could be wrong, but more often than not, those teams aren't consistently the top programs because they can't recruit. It's just homer spin to think this guy is close to as good a recruit as Autry.
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Actually noone has a clue. Yes they do work out more often than not but still kids peak as HS seniors and others peak in college. You never know.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Heard on VQ that he was down to K State and Boise. I think the TN offer changed it though. Gotta help that he is from SC. UT is much closer to home.
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Doesn't he have an offer from South Carolina too? Well I can't blame him either....I wouldn't want to go through life being known as a COCK 4 LIFE either.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
This is JMO but an article was written on Lawerence this past Sunday & Tennessee wasnt even mentioned, he said he was down to Boise State/Kansas State & he would be deciding later this week. Autry commits to MSU on Tuesday then out of nowhere this guy shows up on campus yesterday.

Could it be that Autry was indeed a silent & Lawerence was a back up plan & once Autry
switched the staff scrambled to get
Lawerence in for an OV? Hmmmm......just
thinking aloud here.
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I would say you are exactly right.
 
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