'12 JUCO WR Cordarrelle Patterson (UT signee)

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#826
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AboveAllNations said:
Because we have far more pressing needs at EVERY other position, and a limited number of scholarships to use. With our stacked corp of young receivers, I thought we'd be fine with one WR recruit... instead we already have four! (Bowles, Croom, Redding, and Blanc) How can we possibly take Patterson at this point???

The thing that really baffles me is why a JUCO prospect like Patterson would want to go to a school that already has several NFL-caliber players entrenched at his position. If immediate playing time is his most important consideration, then Tennessee is honestly the worst place he could go.
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Several NFL caliber receivers? Lol

D Rogers and Hunter are the only two NFL caliber and it is still to be seen if they can live up to that.

Arnett and Dallas are the next best two behind Z Rogers who is hurt all the time and will eventually get passed up on the depth chart but those two.

Milton hasn't shown up yet and not sure he will at this point.

So you will be going into Hunter and DRogers Junior years and if they live up to their hype this season and their Junior season you could easily see one or both leave early.

Patterson will be an immediate impact guy and most likely the rest will be redshirts depending on what the dynamic duo do.

On top of that Blanc will not see the offense and Croom has a bright future at WR or TE but I could see him being deadly at TE and an absolute nightmare to cover.

So the thought that WR was not a need is pretty silly because if those two live up to their potential and hype we would be hurting in 2013. I applaud the staff for stocking the cupboard for the future.

Honestly I think we would and should take Howard as well as Patterson.
 
#827
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head1 said:
Several NFL caliber receivers? Lol

D Rogers and Hunter are the only two NFL caliber and it is still to be seen if they can live up to that.

Arnett and Dallas are the next best two behind Z Rogers who is hurt all the time and will eventually get passed up on the depth chart but those two.

Milton hasn't shown up yet and not sure he will at this point.

So you will be going into Hunter and DRogers Junior years and if they live up to their hype this season and their Junior season you could easily see one or both leave early.

Patterson will be an immediate impact guy and most likely the rest will be redshirts depending on what the dynamic duo do.

On top of that Blanc will not see the offense and Croom has a bright future at WR or TE but I could see him being deadly at TE and an absolute nightmare to cover.

So the thought that WR was not a need is pretty silly because if those two live up to their potential and hype we would be hurting in 2013. I applaud the staff for stocking the cupboard for the future.

Honestly I think we would and should take Howard as well as Patterson.
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I agree we are far from being set at WR.Patterson plus 1 more is definitely a possibility. I think Croom ends up at TE. He just said he has no problem playing it. Montgomery would be another possibility.
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#828
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head1 said:
Several NFL caliber receivers? Lol

D Rogers and Hunter are the only two NFL caliber and it is still to be seen if they can live up to that.

Arnett and Dallas are the next best two behind Z Rogers who is hurt all the time and will eventually get passed up on the depth chart but those two.

Milton hasn't shown up yet and not sure he will at this point.

So you will be going into Hunter and DRogers Junior years and if they live up to their hype this season and their Junior season you could easily see one or both leave early.

Patterson will be an immediate impact guy and most likely the rest will be redshirts depending on what the dynamic duo do.

On top of that Blanc will not see the offense and Croom has a bright future at WR or TE but I could see him being deadly at TE and an absolute nightmare to cover.

So the thought that WR was not a need is pretty silly because if those two live up to their potential and hype we would be hurting in 2013. I applaud the staff for stocking the cupboard for the future.

Honestly I think we would and should take Howard as well as Patterson.
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Our starting WRs, Hunter and D. Rogers, are true sophomores with obvious NFL potential. This doesn't guarantee that BOTH will leave early for the NFL draft in 2013 (that isn't even likely); it merely means our starting lineup at WR is set through at least 2012. Arnett was our top overall recruit last year, so it's safe to say that he has NFL potential too. He can't leave until 2014 at the earliest.

Our backup WRs are also solid. Z. Rogers has lots of experience. Matt Milton had 4 catches for 63 yds and a touchdown in a scrimmage last week. By all accounts, he's in line to be a solid contributor this year ( Matt Milton making his play to complete Big Three GoVolsXtra ), and he's around for another 3 years. Vincent Dallas is just a freshman, but he's promising. And don't sleep on D. Young possibly developing into a versatile slot guy in the Brandon James / Wes Welker mold.

ALL of those guys will be back in 2012, so where does Patterson fit in the mix? We already have three redzone targets bigger than him (Hunter, Rogers, Milton). We already have plenty of slot guys. And we already have commitments from Drae Bowles and Keithon Redding (and Jason Croom...).

Even if Hunter and Rogers do both leave for the NFL draft in 2013, it still wouldn't be worth it to use a scholarship on Patterson because he only has two years of eligibility left. Putting aside our dire needs at DL, LB and RB, why not "stock the cupboard" by recruiting another freshman for the offensive line? Everybody talks about Hunter and Rogers leaving early, but several of our OL starters could bolt for the NFL after 2012 too...
 
#829
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AboveAllNations said:
Our starting WRs, Hunter and D. Rogers, are true sophomores with obvious NFL potential. This doesn't guarantee that BOTH will leave early for the NFL draft in 2013 (that isn't even likely); it merely means our starting lineup at WR is set through at least 2012. Arnett was our top overall recruit last year, so it's safe to say that he has NFL potential too. He can't leave until 2014 at the earliest.

Our backup WRs are also solid. Z. Rogers has lots of experience. Matt Milton had 4 catches for 63 yds and a touchdown in a scrimmage last week. By all accounts, he's in line to be a solid contributor this year ( Matt Milton making his play to complete Big Three GoVolsXtra ), and he's around for another 3 years. Vincent Dallas is just a freshman, but he's promising. And don't sleep on D. Young possibly developing into a versatile slot guy in the Brandon James / Wes Welker mold.

ALL of those guys will be back in 2012, so where does Patterson fit in the mix? We already have three redzone targets bigger than him (Hunter, Rogers, Milton). We already have plenty of slot guys. And we already have commitments from Drae Bowles and Keithon Redding (and Jason Croom...).

Even if Hunter and Rogers do both leave for the NFL draft in 2013, it still wouldn't be worth it to use a scholarship on Patterson because he only has two years of eligibility left. Putting aside our dire needs at DL, LB and RB, why not "stock the cupboard" by recruiting another freshman for the offensive line? Everybody talks about Hunter and Rogers leaving early, but several of our OL starters could bolt for the NFL after 2012 too...
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#830
#830
Z. Rogers is always hurt, Milton hasn't proved anything yet, Redding and/or Bowles will likely end up on D and Croom will likely be a TE.

Patterson is a take and an elite WR. The staff isn't going to turn him away no matter how many words you type.
 
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#831
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AboveAllNations said:
Our starting WRs, Hunter and D. Rogers, are true sophomores with obvious NFL potential. This doesn't guarantee that BOTH will leave early for the NFL draft in 2013 (that isn't even likely); it merely means our starting lineup at WR is set through at least 2012. Arnett was our top overall recruit last year, so it's safe to say that he has NFL potential too. He can't leave until 2014 at the earliest.

Our backup WRs are also solid. Z. Rogers has lots of experience. Matt Milton had 4 catches for 63 yds and a touchdown in a scrimmage last week. By all accounts, he's in line to be a solid contributor this year ( Matt Milton making his play to complete Big Three GoVolsXtra ), and he's around for another 3 years. Vincent Dallas is just a freshman, but he's promising. And don't sleep on D. Young possibly developing into a versatile slot guy in the Brandon James / Wes Welker mold.

ALL of those guys will be back in 2012, so where does Patterson fit in the mix? We already have three redzone targets bigger than him (Hunter, Rogers, Milton). We already have plenty of slot guys. And we already have commitments from Drae Bowles and Keithon Redding (and Jason Croom...).

Even if Hunter and Rogers do both leave for the NFL draft in 2013, it still wouldn't be worth it to use a scholarship on Patterson because he only has two years of eligibility left. Putting aside our dire needs at DL, LB and RB, why not "stock the cupboard" by recruiting another freshman for the offensive line? Everybody talks about Hunter and Rogers leaving early, but several of our OL starters could bolt for the NFL after 2012 too...
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Imagine the opportunities a guy like Patterson would have playing with other great recievers. You know defense would be keying in on stopping Da'Rick and Justin on the outside, which would allow Patterson more chances to make big plays. The offense has potential to be unstoppable in 2012. Patterson would be no lower than 3rd on the depth chart behind Rogers and Hunter.
 
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#834
You need to drop the argument because your talent perspective is obvisouly skewed in this argument. Patterson is better than any WR on the roster/commit with the expeception of Rogers/Hunter. He is elite. We would easily see sets with all three of them on the field at the same time. Not to mention, even with the talent Rogers/Hunter have you never know what the future holds. The argument not to take Patterson is just absurd.
 
#835
#835
The dude is basically saying we don't need a potential 5 star talent...:lol: :eek:hmy::crazy:
 
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#836
#836
With him having been in Juco, the arguement could be made that if he were to be a VOL..he may be the best WR on the roster next year.
 
#837
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#838
#838
Don't forget Hunter wants to participate in the Olympics next year. I don't know how that will effect his football but you gotta think it will somehow! GET PATTERSON FUTURE VOL BEAST!!
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#839
#839
AboveAllNations said:
Our starting WRs, Hunter and D. Rogers, are true sophomores with obvious NFL potential. This doesn't guarantee that BOTH will leave early for the NFL draft in 2013 (that isn't even likely); it merely means our starting lineup at WR is set through at least 2012. Arnett was our top overall recruit last year, so it's safe to say that he has NFL potential too. He can't leave until 2014 at the earliest.

Our backup WRs are also solid. Z. Rogers has lots of experience. Matt Milton had 4 catches for 63 yds and a touchdown in a scrimmage last week. By all accounts, he's in line to be a solid contributor this year ( Matt Milton making his play to complete Big Three GoVolsXtra ), and he's around for another 3 years. Vincent Dallas is just a freshman, but he's promising. And don't sleep on D. Young possibly developing into a versatile slot guy in the Brandon James / Wes Welker mold.

ALL of those guys will be back in 2012, so where does Patterson fit in the mix? We already have three redzone targets bigger than him (Hunter, Rogers, Milton). We already have plenty of slot guys. And we already have commitments from Drae Bowles and Keithon Redding (and Jason Croom...).

Even if Hunter and Rogers do both leave for the NFL draft in 2013, it still wouldn't be worth it to use a scholarship on Patterson because he only has two years of eligibility left. Putting aside our dire needs at DL, LB and RB, why not "stock the cupboard" by recruiting another freshman for the offensive line? Everybody talks about Hunter and Rogers leaving early, but several of our OL starters could bolt for the NFL after 2012 too...
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Saying Arnett is NFL material is far fetched to say the least. We have not seen him on the field yet. Right now all your big hopes are just that, hopes. Not one kid on the current roster has proven anything. Rogers and Hunter have the potential but until they prove it they are just two more WRs on the roster. And as far as Milton goes, one scrimmage with decent stats means nothing to me, another unproven player.

On top of all of that, I dont see a whole lot of OL/DL or anything for that matter beating the door down to sign here so you have to take what you can get. The one thing this team has lacked over the past decade has been playmakers on offense. We have the chance to really load up on those and you see it as a bad thing.

Considering there are not a whole lot of options out there right now left that UT is involved in, would you seriously turn down the opportunity to see Rogers/Hunter/Patterson on the field at the same time. Add to that the possibility to see Croom IMO lined up at TE or going 4-5 Wide with Arnett and whoever else out there? Can you begin to think how hard it would be to cover those guys? Chaney is not the OC we are used to having around here, he is Cutcliffe with Manning on steroids. He would throw the ball 60 times a game if they let him.

Take a chill pill, wait for Patterson to sign and sit back and enjoy the air show, it would be something special to see next season and beyond.
 
#841
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Muschump said:
I agree with the rest of your post, but IMO Hunter has proven he is an elite talent. Or was I watching different games last year?
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He has to prove he can be consistent and get off the press coverage. He has trouble getting off physical corners and he disappeared last year at times. Another thing is going to be how he handles going against #1 corners and seeing a lot of double teams. Last year he was able to benefit from DMo and Jones getting more attention than he was.

He showed he has all world potential at times but you look at his stats and you wonder what he was doing some games.

No catches against KY...
One catch against Vandy...
No catches against Bama or SC...
One catch against UAB...

Now maybe some of that was confidence in Bray and Sims going to the other guys more but for someone to be elite you cant just vanish like that. I expect him to really pick it up this season no doubt but he has to show me before I go all in. :)

Rogers I personally think has more potential than Hunter. Hes just as fast, bigger body and more physical and a better route runner when he wants to be. His knock is going to be does he apply himself and get to the next level and stay there. So far the coaches seem to think so, but again, show me. :p
 
#846
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head1 said:
He has to prove he can be consistent and get off the press coverage. He has trouble getting off physical corners and he disappeared last year at times. Another thing is going to be how he handles going against #1 corners and seeing a lot of double teams. Last year he was able to benefit from DMo and Jones getting more attention than he was.

He showed he has all world potential at times but you look at his stats and you wonder what he was doing some games.

No catches against KY...
One catch against Vandy...
No catches against Bama or SC...
One catch against UAB...

Now maybe some of that was confidence in Bray and Sims going to the other guys more but for someone to be elite you cant just vanish like that. I expect him to really pick it up this season no doubt but he has to show me before I go all in. :)

Rogers I personally think has more potential than Hunter. Hes just as fast, bigger body and more physical and a better route runner when he wants to be. His knock is going to be does he apply himself and get to the next level and stay there. So far the coaches seem to think so, but again, show me. :p
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I think it's still wait and see with Hunter as an every down type receiver. His bread and butter last year was the fly route where he simply out jumped the one-on-one coverage. The few times he went over the middle he had a tendency to have alligator arms. There is no doubt he has elite type potential but like you said he has to prove he can get off man coverage and that's not just as simple as gaining a few pounds. I have no doubt that if he continues to work hard he will be a great receiver but I'm afraid some fans are expecting more out of him this year then he will produe. Da'rick on the other hand is a Terrell Owens type talent ready to take the next step. I am expecting a huge year out of Da'rick this year especially if we get good production out of the slot receivers and running game.
 
#847
#847
With the emergence of Darick over the spring and summer ... who's to say that Mr. Hunter will be facing the #1 corners of every team this year?


Back to topic ... I love Cordarrelle ... No homo
 
#848
#848
If Tennessee's offense is going to effective it will need D Rodgers to be the number 1 receiver over the season. Hunter made plays last year, but simply being able to out jump people isn't going to cut it in tight games against teams who have athletes just as good as him.
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#850
#850
UT needs receivers more than people realize, especially ones with size. They have to recruit like Da'Rick and Justin will be gone after next season because there's at least a decent chance that both will be. Zack will also be gone. That leaves:

- Milton, Sr (they don't expect a whole lot from him)
- Arnett, Jr
- Dallas, Jr
- Jones, RS Sr (Same as Milton)

They need at least 4 in this class, maybe even 5. Croom is 100% a WR. Bowles and Redding will be given every opportunity to play WR as well.
 
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