'13 FL RB Derrick Henry (Bama commit)

[MrCasperKeller]

Watching him right now. Does he always stutter step in the hole before running through people? He's an athletic freak but if he hits the hole like that next year he'll be smashed.

 

[m1al]

You sure like your own opinions don't you. Sorry I misread how the nature of volnation is. Didn't mean to get your panties in a wad.

Why would firing Dooley now be a disaster all knowing genius? Put an interim tag on a coordinator, maybe Sal, and let the search begin. What recruits would we lose that would even mean ****?

Please shed more of your infinite wisdom on me.

Yes, I do like my own opinions, obviously or I wouldn't post them here.. However, my method of delivery was wrong and for that I apologize.. I should not have used terms like "dumbest thing I've read", "brilliant statement" and called you a troll.. After re-reading your post I realize you were being sarcastic with your "State of VolNation" comment..

As far as the "fire Dooley now" thing we will have to agree to disagree.. I truly believe that to fire Dooley now, without a plan and a successor waiting in the wings would be a HUGE mistake.. To me, the downside of this is obvious but I realize my opinion is not shared by all which is to be expected..

All this will take care of itself one way or another in the coming weeks.. It would be nice if VolNation as a whole (me included) could tone down the rhetoric.. Ultimately we all have one thing in common, a love for the VOLS..

Again, you have my apologies sir...

Peace and GO VOLS... :hi:

 

[ORANGE & WHITE]

You're right. Casual and fair weather fans don't truly understand the problems that Dooley inherited. He's dealt with a lot of the roster issues but we have a lack of Senior leadership. You can't expect to remake the culture of a football program over night. Just doesn't happen. Period.

 

[you]

DH getting it done thus far in this game. I had given him my login info and saw he responded to someone who said "didnt want him anyways". Lol.

Good stuff. Unless your a Vols fan

 

[ajvol01]

Heard all these excuses last year. We got beat by FL worse this year than last year. Half of our coaches jumped ship for same jobs at ****ing Washington. Dooleys best recruit isn't on the team anymore.

2013? There's a good chance we could be worse next year!

We can't afford to have Dooley getting outcoached every time we play a team worth a damn.

So if Ga hands us our own butts in Athens tomorrow than that's cool with you I guess. Got it.

No, not what I am saying at all.

What I am saying is that a bunch of spoiled rotten Tennessee Vols fans that expect Dooley to beat the elite teams in this conference with 1 arm tied behind his back are delusional at best.

This team has not had enough talent to compete with the top teams in the conference since 2007.

We are still 1 year away.

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So what you're saying is that you want Tennessee to become Bama of the Perkins/Curry/Dubose/Franchione/Shula (irrelevant) eras?

i.e. Let's hire and fire coaches every 3 years until we luckily hire the coach of the century (Saban is not coming to Knoxville) after Rich-Rod turns us down.

Got it.

 

[PanicVol]

Yes, I do like my own opinions, obviously or I wouldn't post them here.. However, my method of delivery was wrong and for that I apologize.. I should not have used terms like "dumbest thing I've read", "brilliant statement" and called you a troll.. After re-reading your post I realize you were being sarcastic with your "State of VolNation" comment..

As far as the "fire Dooley now" thing we will have to agree to disagree.. I truly believe that to fire Dooley now, without a plan and a successor waiting in the wings would be a HUGE mistake.. To me, the downside of this is obvious but I realize my opinion is not shared by all which is to be expected..

All this will take care of itself one way or another in the coming weeks.. It would be nice if VolNation as a whole (me included) could tone down the rhetoric.. Ultimately we all have one thing in common, a love for the VOLS..

Again, you have my apologies sir...

Peace and GO VOLS... :hi:

You sound like a reasonable fella. We are all on the same side. I'm just being impatient and probably not very realistic. Thanks for putting things in the right perspective. Cheers!

Now I'm fired up!!!!! GBO!!!!! **** Georgia!!!

 

[m1al]

You're right. Casual and fair weather fans don't truly understand the problems that Dooley inherited. He's dealt with a lot of the roster issues but we have a lack of Senior leadership. You can't expect to remake the culture of a football program over night. Just doesn't happen. Period.

I've posted this several times lately...

Sobering fact; only 3 out 31 four star recruits signed by UT from '07 - '09 turned into multi year starters... That represents practically a total whif in recruiting for 3 years straight...

Hard to overcome no matter who the coach is..

Edit: Especially when your main 3 or 4 rivals are consistently recruiting top 10 classes every year...

 

[ajvol01]

You're right. Casual and fair weather fans don't truly understand the problems that Dooley inherited. He's dealt with a lot of the roster issues but we have a lack of Senior leadership. You can't expect to remake the culture of a football program over night. Just doesn't happen. Period.

Spot on OW.

What most people don't seem to understand is how difficult it can be to have Senior Leadership when there are almost zero seniors that play.

Herman Lathers, Dallas Thomas & Prentiss Waggner are the only ones that come to mind.

 

[SeanJean]

And the Saban comparison is played out - Bama was LOADED with talent when Saban got there in 2007 and he still went 6-7 including a loss to Louisiana Monroe.

Lolwhat?

 

[MrCasperKeller]

Good wiggle and speed for such a big mofo. He's had two awesome runs.

 

[PanicVol]

No, not what I am saying at all.

What I am saying is that a bunch of spoiled rotten Tennessee Vols fans that expect Dooley to beat the elite teams in this conference with 1 arm tied behind his back are delusional at best.

This team has not had enough talent to compete with the top teams in the conference since 2007.

We are still 1 year away.

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So what you're saying is that you want Tennessee to become Bama of the Perkins/Curry/Dubose/Franchione/Shula (irrelevant) eras?

i.e. Let's hire and fire coaches every 3 years until we luckily hire the coach of the century (Saban is not coming to Knoxville) after Rich-Rod turns us down.

Got it.

Um yes, if it means we win 2 national titles. Damn skippy. Saban was not a "lucky hire". Hart opened up the wallet for a proven winner. And guess what? They started winning.

 

[you]

Bout to drop some bigs news on VN.... I've followed a trail of clues that indicate poster AZVOLSFAN is coach Dooley. Check it out.

 

[ajvol01]

Lolwhat?

oops. 7-6

Tide beat Colorado in bowl game.

Wikipedia

2007

Main article: 2007 Alabama Crimson Tide football team

Saban, announced on January 3, 2007, that he accepted an offer to become Alabama's 27th head coach following a meeting with Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga.[23] On January 4, 2007, Nick Saban was officially introduced as the head football coach of The University of Alabama at a press conference on the Alabama campus. On September 1, 2007, his Crimson Tide opened the season with a 52–6 win over the Western Carolina Catamounts, scoring more points than during any game in the 2006 season. He became the fifth Alabama coach since 1900 to start his first season 3–0, earning a win over then-ranked No. 16 Arkansas Razorbacks.[24] Alabama ended the regular season with a 6–6 record, including a four-game losing streak, a particularly humiliating loss at home to Louisiana-Monroe, and a loss to Auburn in the Iron Bowl, the Tide's sixth straight. The Tide defeated Colorado in the 2007 Independence Bowl, 30–24, to end the year 7–6.

 

[SeanJean]

oops. 7-6

Tide beat Colorado in bowl game.

Wikipedia

No i meant the "he inherited a loaded roster" part. He didn't.

 

[ajvol01]

Um yes, if it means we win 2 national titles. Damn skippy. Saban was not a "lucky hire". Hart opened up the wallet for a proven winner. And guess what? They started winning.

And when exactly did Dave Hart take over for Mal Moore?

 

[ajvol01]

No i meant the "he inherited a loaded roster" part. He didn't.

Compared to 2010 Vols I would say 2007 Tide were loaded.

Shula's recruiting was much better than final years of Fulmer and 1 year of Kiffin

 

[Vol2424]

No doubt. Doesn't even phase me either b/c I knew better. We were running second the whole time. He's been Bama bound since the visit that caused him to decommit from GA.

Yep.


And like most , I'd rather have Green. Don't know that Tennessee will get him , but if I had my choice that is who I wanted before Henry ever made his choice for Bama.

 

[PanicVol]

And when exactly did Dave Hart take over for Mal Moore?

My mistake, replace Moore for Hart. Sorry.

 

[TP801]

Worst kept secret ever.

I don't know who you are, but can you comprehend a joke?

What are you talking about? I gave DH my login stuff a min. Ago. He responded, not me. Probably didn't know dude was joking.

 

[ajvol01]

My mistake, replace Moore for Hart. Sorry.

No problem and no hard feelings either.

I just have a problem with the general impatience of our fanbase right now.

My point is the comparison of Dooley to "big name" coaches is not real because there are ZERO big name coaches that have taken over a program in this shape.

If a big name coach had been hiredin 2010, the difference in the W-L record might realistically be 2-3 games.

I am not giving up or settling for mediocrity, but I do think CDD deserves another year to right the ship.

 

[SeanJean]

Compared to 2010 Vols I would say 2007 Tide were loaded.

Shula's recruiting was much better than final years of Fulmer and 1 year of Kiffin

Being better than 2010 Vols does not equal loaded.

Second: They weren't more talented than that roster. 2010 was easily Dooleys best recruiting class.

 

[daj2576]

Brodus laughs in your general direction.

Of all the Derek's listed (including me), HE is the one that you hung your hat on?

 

[TriCitiesVol]

Has 175 rushing yards at halftime.

 

[PanicVol]

No problem and no hard feelings either.

I just have a problem with the general impatience of our fanbase right now.

My point is the comparison of Dooley to "big name" coaches is not real because there are ZERO big name coaches that have taken over a program in this shape.

If a big name coach had been hiredin 2010, the difference in the W-L record might realistically be 2-3 games.

I am not giving up or settling for mediocrity, but I do think CDD deserves another year to right the ship.

Of course no hard feelings. We all want the same thing here. And I can agree with ya on most of this. I just have terrible feeling about tomorrow. We have to show some sort of sign that Dooley has us going in the right direction. I honesty wouldn't mind if we lost a close, hard fought game. This getting blown out crap has to stop. I honestly think he's gone if we get embarrassed.

 

[daj2576]

Nice avatar, ya Dengus!

For your health!