13' GA S Vonn Bell (Ohio State signee)

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mlsoft said:
I hear you on the WR sweep/reverse -- I was sick of it as well (along with the mildcat formation that fooled no one -- ever). Those plays reminded me of how I got so sick and tired of Fulmer running it up the middle time after time even though it had yet to work all season. The only thing I can say in JC's defense is that he just plain did not have much to work with after JH and Bray went down. He was bringing a pea shooter to a gunfight.

I had a more significant gripe against him in that once he took the wraps off of Worley and sacrificed his RS year, he then did not stick with him to let him gain confidence and experience. That was indefensible, in my opinion. As much as he struggled at times, Worley was light years ahead of Simms, who gave us zero chance to win a game. The final straw was the KY game when he continued to play Bray when he could not hit his ass with both hands.

I think that when JC has something to work with, he is pretty good at getting mismatches in the passing game. When he found himself suddenly with only one temperamental WR, a QB who was an ultra-green true freshman who had been sleep walking as the 3rd string QB before being abruptly pressed into duty, and zero running game to fall back on, he really did not have anything to work with.

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Very well said and I agree with it all.
 
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LynxVol said:
You can blame personnel for only so long. I think CJC lost that excuse a while ago. He should have been able to do something last season. Play-calling was just bad a lot last season.
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I agree that the play calling was ugly but the inconsistencies on the OL and Poole's inability to find any hole definitely didn't make it any easier. CJC really needs to show what he can do this year with the 3 amigos at receiver and a now experience OL. If he struggles again I think it may be time to find someone else.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
That was with Joe Haden as a freshman. Wonder what they would've done against Florida the next year. Like I said, Urbie knows how to build a team. You may hate him but he's a good coach.
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I agree. My earlier comment about Hoke building a more traditional SEC team stands. Urban's defense will resemble the SEC but I credit Strong for his success. Dan Mullen was an important cog for his offense and his offense is not a traditional SEC offense..ie small backs and the power game coming from the qb position. I feel he will try to replicate this at tOSU. Urban has had the luck of taking over teams that are chock full of talent so his early success is almost assured. His coaching or his ability to find quality assistants faded when his staff started getting picked apart. Unlike Saban he could not keep his eye on the prize.
 
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I4Jay said:
Let's see how well this goes over now that Skeeter has said it.

I said same stuff about Chaney needing to be "reigned in" by the head coach and people acted like I was Aleister Crowley
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Funny how that works.. I remember that "debate".
 
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skeeter33418 said:
I think we have some very very good coaching taking place, the defense will have some issues making the transition, but thats to be expected. Ive never came out and said it, but i think CJC is the weak link, i wish he would take that wr sweep/reverse and stick it up his arse. 3 and 4 times a game is just crazy, 3 or 4 times a year is good. He has yet to show me he can game plan for a good defense. Good defenses will not allow for you to just throw all over them at will, no matter the wideouts you have. Last year he thought he would just waltz in and throw all over KY and blow them out, we see how that worked out, he had no back up plan, he was to confident. Thats my take.
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This +100,000,000
 
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Phat-Phil said:
Funny how that works.. I remember that "debate".
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Yeah this board gives certain posters amnesty no matter what they post. But will argue some posters down. I remember when Sabo was on this board and he would try to argue football with me. Guy didn't know what the hell he was talking about but everybody just took his side because they just loved the fool.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I don't think we've seen Chaney's offense, though.

I THINK he wants to run the ball more, just hasn't had the talent to do it.
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This is what I think. It would be hard for anyone to stick to a run game last year with how terrible ours was.

Totally agree on that WR sweep though. It needs to get scaled way back.
 
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jjay2518 said:
This is what I think. It would be hard for anyone to stick to a run game last year with how terrible ours was.

Totally agree on that WR sweep though. It needs to get scaled way back.
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That idiot was running the sweep to the short side of the field.

He also ran the wildcat without ever handing the ball off to the motion guy. Like how are you going to fake to a guy who never gets the ball.
 
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I4Jay said:
Let's see how well this goes over now that Skeeter has said it.

I said same stuff about Chaney needing to be "reigned in" by the head coach and people acted like I was Aleister Crowley
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I have not been a CJC fan. I hope he proves me wrong.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
That was with Joe Haden as a freshman. Wonder what they would've done against Florida the next year. Like I said, Urbie knows how to build a team. You may hate him but he's a good coach.
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He is a good coach, but he isn't going to run away with the Big 10. Don't underestimate Hoke. Urbie is going to take the Spurrier route after Florida.
 
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skeeter33418 said:
I think we have some very very good coaching taking place, the defense will have some issues making the transition, but thats to be expected. Ive never came out and said it, but i think CJC is the weak link, i wish he would take that wr sweep/reverse and stick it up his arse. 3 and 4 times a game is just crazy, 3 or 4 times a year is good. He has yet to show me he can game plan for a good defense. Good defenses will not allow for you to just throw all over them at will, no matter the wideouts you have. Last year he thought he would just waltz in and throw all over KY and blow them out, we see how that worked out, he had no back up plan, he was to confident. Thats my take.
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Bummer that somebody on the inside thinks this. :eek:hmy: Your not just pissed that CJC ate your last yogurt out of the office fridge, or something petty like that are you?
 
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I have no clue what he means unless he is picking OSU and that maybe the surprise him not staying in the south.

Chad Simmons @ChadSimmons_
5-star S Vonn Bell he could "surprise" some people when he makes his decision. recruiting.scout.com/2/1211001.html #Bama #UGA #OhioState #Tennessee #Texas

Scout.com: A surprise from Bell?
 
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TideWarrior said:
I have no clue what he means unless he is picking OSU and that maybe the surprise him not staying in the south.

Chad Simmons @ChadSimmons_
5-star S Vonn Bell he could "surprise" some people when he makes his decision. recruiting.scout.com/2/1211001.html #Bama #UGA #OhioState #Tennessee #Texas

Scout.com: A surprise from Bell?
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hopefully, it means everybody's gonna be surprised he is picking tennessee.:thumbsup:
 
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