'13 VA RB Derrick Green (Michigan commit)

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onevol74 said:
Actually, OSU gave us a better game than UM in our bowl game.

Your girlies could not catch our tight end that day in Orlando and our QB set a Citrus Bowl passing record against a very average team. I would like to see Michigan's record in a real conference.
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so i'm going to assume by real conference you mean SEC so let's take a look. UM is all time 13-5-1 against your "real" conference, a winning percentage of 71%. if that's too broad for you let's go to BCS era where they are 6-2, 75%,still a winning record.

while we're there, let's look at UT record against the big ten, overall 8-4, a winning percentage of 66%. BCS era has UT vs big ten at 2-1, still 66%.

anything else you'd like cleared up for you?
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
so i'm going to assume by real conference you mean SEC so let's take a look. UM is all time 13-5-1 against your "real" conference, a winning percentage of 71%. if that's too broad for you let's go to BCS era where they are 6-2, 75%,still a winning record.

while we're there, let's look at UT record against the big ten, overall 8-4, a winning percentage of 66%. BCS era has UT vs big ten at 2-1, still 66%.

anything else you'd like cleared up for you?
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Lets look at the matchups behind those numbers. If its like any other bowl game the conference playing the Sec team has the higher seed.
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
so i'm going to assume by real conference you mean SEC so let's take a look. UM is all time 13-5-1 against your "real" conference, a winning percentage of 71%. if that's too broad for you let's go to BCS era where they are 6-2, 75%,still a winning record.

while we're there, let's look at UT record against the big ten, overall 8-4, a winning percentage of 66%. BCS era has UT vs big ten at 2-1, still 66%.

anything else you'd like cleared up for you?
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BCS Era:

UT = 1 NC
UM = 0 NC

SEC = 8 NC
Big 10 = 1 NC

Any questions????
 
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Can someone post that this is a VOLS site. All else go to your homer site. Also, this is the recruiting forum. Stay on subject or go to a different one. JMO
 
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tim said:
Lets look at the matchups behind those numbers. If its like any other bowl game the conference playing the Sec team has the higher seed.
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this question was as to how UM would fare in the real conference and this is the evidence we have for that, sorry it doesn't fit the answer you wanted, might as well see how many ways we can twist it around until you get the answer you want or try to discount it in some way.
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
ahh the classic when you have nothing else, might as well bring up some one time history that has nothing to do with today. guess you have to live in the past these days don't you :good!:
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Now, Fleetwood, up until now, I have respected the tone of your rhetoric. You have, for the most part, been a very respectful visitor. As a Michigan supporter, however, I presume that you would not appreciate being lumped in with Florida fans. Such a characterization would not be intended as a compliment and should be beneath the dignity of one who supports a program as rich in tradition as Michigan's. So relax, enjoy your status as a supporter of an historically elite program, but refrain from the Johnny-come-lately logic when visiting the forum of another perennial power that is simply climbing out of a 40-year nadir in talent and onfield performance. Over the course of time, all programs go through such cycles.
 
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utvolmaniac said:
BCS Era:

UT = 1 NC
UM = 0 NC

SEC = 8 NC
Big 10 = 1 NC

Any questions????
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question i have is where did i miss where we were talking about NC? sorry the answer to the question your fellow Vol fan posed wasn't the one you wanted so you had to find something else to fill your WHOOOOOOOOOO ESS EEE SEE agenda
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Now, Fleetwood, up until now, I have respected the tone of your rhetoric. You have, for the most part, been a very respectful visitor. As a Michigan supporter, however, I presume that you would not appreciate being lumped in with Florida fans. Such a characterization would not be intended as a compliment and should be beneath the dignity of one who supports a program as rich in tradition as Michigan's. So relax, enjoy your status as a supporter of an historically elite program, but refrain from the Johnny-come-lately logic when visiting the forum of another perennial power that is simply climbing out of a 40-year nadir.
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if you look through the posts i have in this thread i have tried to add information and get information and have only posted negativity in response to negativity and have tried to back up what i say with factual information and have even let a lot of it go. anyone wanting to discuss any of this, recruiting, football history, whatever rationally then i'm all for it. hell i've been to neyland more times than i've been to the big house so it's not like i have anything against UT at all. plus let's not forget that 3 out of the last 5 years UM went through a terrible transistion phase that was less than pleasent and left my liver in worse shape than it started
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
this question was as to how UM would fare in the real conference and this is the evidence we have for that, sorry it doesn't fit the answer you wanted, might as well see how many ways we can twist it around until you get the answer you want or try to discount it in some way.
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So take pride in knowing you have a winning record against the lower echelon of Sec teams. Head to head you lost to UT, miserably. Your recovery is 2 years ahead of ours and seems to have peaked in year 1 of the BH era. Urban came to town and beat that ass in his first year which should give you a taste of real Sec coaching. Even Urban had to leave the madness of Sec football because he lost a step, but it seems a fractured Urban can still dominate the Big Ten.
 
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We aint ever ever ever lost to meatchicken...so why we talking bout them chumps?


meatchicken, montana, ohio...bunch of teams who never have been able to beat us.


It's because we too good!
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
if you look through the posts i have in this thread i have tried to add information and get information and have only posted negativity in response to negativity and have tried to back up what i say with factual information and have even let a lot of it go. anyone wanting to discuss any of this, recruiting, football history, whatever rationally then i'm all for it. hell i've been to neyland more times than i've been to the big house so it's not like i have anything against UT at all.
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I realize all of that. I have read many of your posts on this thread and I can appreciate the input of respectful visitors. This forum, however, has been filled with negativity for the last few years. Fans of programs as rich in tradition as ours don't tolerate sustained mediocrity (or worse) well. All I am saying is don't let the tone of dialogue on this message board tarnish your perceived reputation. Unfortunately, you have to expect a certain amount of trash talk from my fellow Vol fans. It is not a practice that I choose to engage in, but this is, after all, our forum. Don't paint yourself into a corner that will unfairly get you lumped in with Florida and Alabama trolls.
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
if you look through the posts i have in this thread i have tried to add information and get information and have only posted negativity in response to negativity and have tried to back up what i say with factual information and have even let a lot of it go. anyone wanting to discuss any of this, recruiting, football history, whatever rationally then i'm all for it. hell i've been to neyland more times than i've been to the big house so it's not like i have anything against UT at all. plus let's not forget that 3 out of the last 5 years UM went through a terrible transistion phase that was less than pleasent and left my liver in worse shape than it started
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perhaps you just enjoy sowing discord?
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
question i have is where did i miss where we were talking about NC? sorry the answer to the question your fellow Vol fan posed wasn't the one you wanted so you had to find something else to fill your WHOOOOOOOOOO ESS EEE SEE agenda
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Hey Fleetwood. FYI, I was born in Michigan and grew up a fan of the Maize and Blue. Moved to Ohio in 6th grade. That was pure torture being a UM fan in the midst of all the Bucknuts (during the Bo/Woody era). I actually went to high school with Brady and Jon (we used to call him Jondy) Hoke.

I know the Big 10 is solid football, but it is not the SEC. I could cite any number of statistics/reasons/facts to substantiate, but anyone who knows college football already knows which conference is superior. Could UM fit into the SEC and be competitive? Yes. Could UM (as it stands now) win either SEC Division? No. UM would be in the middle of the SEC.
 
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Escape Goat said:
Get lost. What happened the last time your beloved team played us? We beat the ****ing **** out of your punk ass. That's what. Tired of seeing your lame ass posting on here.
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A TE outran their whole damn secondary :eek:lol:
 
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OK, let's try this. For those of you who have seen him in person or on film, would it be accurate to say that Green does not have that rare blend of size, speed and power that Jamal Lewis possessed? If so, who does Green most closely resemble among recent Tennessee backs? Jay Graham, perhaps, or Travis Henry?
 
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