'14 JUCO TX WR Kameel Jackson (UT walk-on)

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Vol8188 said:
NCAAF Rise of blueshirts - ESPN

Apparently only official visits and financial aid agreements would count. Assuming he didn't ov, he may be a blueshirt.
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Ya, Bruin started the whole phone call thing. Never saw anywhere in NCAA bylaws that said a phone call makes a kid a recruit. OV and in home visit were the two criteria, so I think Kameel might qualify.
 
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jave36 said:
Ya, Bruin started the whole phone call thing. Never saw anywhere in NCAA bylaws that said a phone call makes a kid a recruit. OV and in home visit were the two criteria, so I think Kameel might qualify.
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It's time to boot somebody!
 
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Jackson was recruited. He took an OV to UT and CZA recruited him at his Juco. That is when he noticed J. Johnson as well and offered him.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Jackson was recruited. He took an OV to UT and CZA recruited him at his Juco. That is when he noticed J. Johnson as well and offered him.
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Do we know for a fact it was an ov and not an unofficial? I remember in December and January we had a lot of kids who had been committed for months, who were just then taking their ov.

And CZA visiting his school doesn't count as directly recruiting him. We have college coaches at our Hs all the time, doesn't mean they are recruiting the entire team.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Do we know for a fact it was an ov and not an unofficial? I remember in December and January we had a lot of kids who had been committed for months, who were just then taking their ov.

And CZA visiting his school doesn't count as directly recruiting him. We have college coaches at our Hs all the time, doesn't mean they are recruiting the entire team.
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His 247 timeline lists him taking an OV in Aug. It also states CZA "evaluated" Jackson at his Juco. It does not say CZA stopped by the juco to look at the team. He stopped there to specifically see Jackson. IMO the kid would be considered "recruited" by Tennessee.
 
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Even if it was possible, I doubt the coaches would offer a blueshirt because it would take a scholly away from the '15 class. With the talent we're in on, absolutely not worth it for a kid who has struggled to stay on the field and in the classroom.
 
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Guys, the media has said "Walk-on". That is what it is going to be if it happens. He took an official visit, was a commit... he's as "recruited" as you can possibly be.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Guys, the media has said "Walk-on". That is what it is going to be if it happens. He took an official visit, was a commit... he's as "recruited" as you can possibly be.
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I agree with the official visit, but being a "commit" doesn't qualify you as being recruited. I've been committed for 25 years, yet no one has ever came close to recruiting me.
 
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Next to come are purple shirts.23-28 year olds who dropped out of college for uh, well. . . . personal reasons. Stayed in great physical condition, then re-enrolled to finish their degree and play football.

Still hope we get Jackson as a walk on. He's got to prove he won't 'walk off" yet again and is ready to not just play but contribute to his team.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
His 247 timeline lists him taking an OV in Aug. It also states CZA "evaluated" Jackson at his Juco. It does not say CZA stopped by the juco to look at the team. He stopped there to specifically see Jackson. IMO the kid would be considered "recruited" by Tennessee.
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Coaches can see a kid unlimited times at their school. There is nothing that says if a coach evaluates a kid then the kid is a recruit. If his official was an ov, then yes, he's a recruit.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I agree with the official visit, but being a "commit" doesn't qualify you as being recruited. I've been committed for 25 years, yet no one has ever came close to recruiting me.
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I know a farmer 'bout 16 miles down Rte 150 who has a 5'2" auburn haired 196lbs daughter who would gladly take your commitment. Doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, but has a fondness for fruit pies. :angel:
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I know a farmer 'bout 16 miles down Rte 150 who has a 5'2" auburn haired 196lbs daughter who would gladly take your commitment. Doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, but has a fondness for fruit pies. :angel:
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Does she swarm towards bacon like a defenses swarm to a football?
 
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jave36 said:
Coaches can see a kid unlimited times at their school. There is nothing that says if a coach evaluates a kid then the kid is a recruit. If his official was an ov, then yes, he's a recruit.
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Actions that cause a prospective student-athlete to become recruited include, but are not limited to:

* providing a prospective student-athlete with an official visit (i.e., a visit to an institution's campus financed in whole or in part by the institution);
* having an arranged, in-person, off-campus encounter with the prospective student-athlete and/or the prospective student-athlete's parents/legal guardians or relatives;
* initiating or arranging telephone contact with the prospective student-athlete, the prospective student-athlete's relatives or legal guardian(s) on more than one occasion for the purpose of recruitment; or
* issuing a National Letter of Intent to the prospective student-athlete.
 
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kamoshika said:
Vol commitment Kameel Jackson saw the start of Tennessee's football season first hand as he made his official visit to the Vols over the last couple days. After seeing Tennessee for the first time, the junior college wide receiver left impressed.
Jackson breaks down his visit
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well, there goes that option. Still though, he should be able to walk on and then earn a scholarship. I'm not even certain as to how that would differ from a blueshirt.
 
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Vol8188 said:
well, there goes that option. Still though, he should be able to walk on and then earn a scholarship. I'm not even certain as to how that would differ from a blueshirt.
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He can walk on.

Remember Wesley Horky came on an official visit and was going to be a preferred walk on.
 
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Pay attention to what Jayson Swain has to say about this situation. He and Kameel are pretty tight.
 
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Vol8188 said:
well, there goes that option. Still though, he should be able to walk on and then earn a scholarship. I'm not even certain as to how that would differ from a blueshirt.
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Blueshirts have a scholarship available for them day 1 in the fall semester. Kameel can walk on, but he'll have to pay out of state tuition for at least 1 semester. Easier said than done sometimes.
 
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kamoshika said:
Actions that cause a prospective student-athlete to become recruited include, but are not limited to:

* providing a prospective student-athlete with an official visit (i.e., a visit to an institution's campus financed in whole or in part by the institution);
* having an arranged, in-person, off-campus encounter with the prospective student-athlete and/or the prospective student-athlete's parents/legal guardians or relatives;
* initiating or arranging telephone contact with the prospective student-athlete, the prospective student-athlete's relatives or legal guardian(s) on more than one occasion for the purpose of recruitment; or
* issuing a National Letter of Intent to the prospective student-athlete.
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Source? I read the bylaws words for word and they never mentioned phone calls. Off campus means off his campus and off our campus.

He went on an OV anyway, so it's a moot point.
 
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