14' Legacy Class vs Utah State

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Vol8188 said:
I've literally never heard anyone ask "how much trouble will there linebacker core give us in terms of production".

That question has probably never been asked before, nor do I know what it means.
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Read the question again & comprehend. How productive will our offense be as far as yards, first downs, scores & turnovers against there Linebacker core. There Linebacker core has two potential All-Americans just so u know. I expect us to beat them & work some kinks out by the second half. I don't expect a Western Kentucky game outcome but maybe more like a Kentucky game outcome.
 
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Madmartigan has always been a very level headed, respectful poster. :)

I'll break it down piece by piece to tell my opinion:

RBs: UT

I'd give us the advantage here based on the players alone, line play excluded. With Lane's overall experience, Hurd's combination of elusiveness, explosiveness, size, and speed, and the potential Derrell Scott has to be a secret weapon.

WRs: UT

Once again, advantage us. Almost all of them will be bigger, taller, and faster than USUs secondary. Croom is massive, North has incredible potential after only a freshman season, and Von Pearson is being toughted as a potential x factor for us with his freakish athleticism, Malone is unproven but already has shown signs of greatness after a standout spring game, and that's just scratching the surface. QB play could limit this though.

TEs: UT/USU

I'll call this a draw based on lack of knowledge of USUs TEs honestly. We have two big bodied, athletic freshman, one who can already make one handed catches, but I don't know enough about USUs.

QB: USU

USU all the way. Keeton is potential NFL material and a great QB. Short of an incredible turnaround in one of our QBs this is one of USUs strongest advantages.

O/D Line: USU

To keep this post short I'll condense this as I give the advantage here on both sides of the ball to USU. They have the experience advantage, we are the unknown. It could be even but it may not be. It's too early to tell.

LBs: USU

We have some great linebackers, but despite AJ Johnson, USU has 2 LBs that made the same watch list as him, and Maggitt is being considered to play mainly with his hand in the dirt it seems, but still may play LB. Slight advantage USU here.

Secondary: UT

I have to give this advantage to UT based on the lineups and overall skill. Brian Randolph and Cam Sutton are both poised to have breakout seasons and are on a watch list for best secondary player of the year. This will be one of our best defensive strengths in my opinion.

Martigan, or any USU/UT fan reading this, feel free to weigh in. :)
 
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KBVol said:
GOD bless you Jett for writing "loose" and not "lose".....it's an epidemic around here. Sorry, pet peeve. #GrammarNazi
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nothing like a Nazi on a foot ball forum :hi:


did i spell it right schoolmarm ?


that is just so very cute
 
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This game is going to be about Von Pearson. The freshmen will be transitioning to college play in their first few games. Don't get me wrong, any one of them could go off on any given day off pure talent. I just see Von getting open early against slower NBs
 
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jkleno said:
The play on the field is much more intimidating than a venue. The way we have played over the past years will have no one shaking in their boots. Cleets.
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Woe to anyone who steps on a field believing that UT'S 5-7 record means that they are an even match, or less talented / capable than a 9 win USU team.

The difference in both UT'S quality of player (and opponent if you believe records tell the tale) is substantially in UT'S favor.
 
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vol2002 said:
This thing will be tough early but I honestly expect a blowout. 52-21 is my prediction.

Assuming no injuries, I don't know how they stop us consistently on Hurd-and-1. I think our wideouts have a field day on their inexperienced secondary. And I think Keeton will be held back by the ACL.

Couple all this with the fact this is a night game in Neyland and I expect a laugher.
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Brilliant
 
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vol2002 said:
This thing will be tough early but I honestly expect a blowout. 52-21 is my prediction.

Assuming no injuries, I don't know how they stop us consistently on Hurd-and-1. I think our wideouts have a field day on their inexperienced secondary. And I think Keeton will be held back by the ACL.

Couple all this with the fact this is a night game in Neyland and I expect a laugher.
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I hope Hurd and 1 is more successful than 3rd and Chavis or Any Down and Sunseri!
 
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Madmartigan said:
USU has a very stout run D. I doubt your RBs have a field day against us. It's our pass d that I'm most concerned about. Your big athletic WRs could cause fits for our secondary. Very rarely do running games flourish against Utah State the past four years. Our LBs are pretty decent and the d-line pretty physical.
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I think this game will be very close and will come down to depth. That will bode well for UT at home in that it'll probably be hot and humid at game time and cramps will effect depth, favoring Vol players being more used to the weather. Being the first game, there will be nerves, noise, and inexperience, especially on the UT side. USU will blitz early and often and try to confuse UT's young line and backfield. If the Vols don't have an answer for that, it could get ugly. Whoever the QB is will need time to get timing down with the receivers. If I'm the USU D-coordinator, I'm stunting and blitzing from LB, DE, and S all night, until UT proves they can stop it. I think it will be a great game and a nail biter this early in the season. JMHO.
 
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I've watched USU play 3 games in the past couple of years. My personal opinion is that there is a better chance of us winning in Norman OK, than beating USU by 3+TDs. The people who think we will destroy USU but get beat by OU by 30 points are smoking something.
 
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wouldn't it be great to have Chavis defense now Boca ?I'm wondering what this years will be like, it wasn't like he is a bad coach at all :)
 
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KBVol said:
GOD bless you Jett for writing "loose" and not "lose".....it's an epidemic around here. Sorry, pet peeve. #GrammarNazi
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#grammarnazisunite

I'm right there with you, KB. Although, I'm pretty sure SpecialEd is the #DieGrammarFührer
 
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daj2576 said:
You're talking about the difference between stadii in the 80k range versus 102455. Or, an increase in about 25%.

Visualize it like this (from a rough interpolation of human growth charts): It's like the difference between the size of an average 9 year old compared to the size of the average 14 year old. While both are human, thus substantially similar, few would argue that an average 9 year old is close enough in size to a 14 year old to warrant comparison.
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You have a very quantitative mind and I respect that. I think some times you only look at certain numbers and get tunnel vision on one number alone. Sheer numbers of people in a stadium don't define how hard it is to play there. Ask UT players how loud Autzen was. Autzen holds 53,800 people 50 k or so fewer than Neyland. I would wager Autzen is one of the loudest and most intimidating in the country, and most "rank the loudest stadium" publications would agree with me.

NCAA.com ranks top five loudest college football stadiums and two are in the SEC | AL.com (notice Camp Randall in this one and Neyland not)

The 10 Loudest Stadiums in College Football | Bleacher Report (notice Camp Randall above Neyland in this one)

Ranking College Football's Top 25 Uniforms | AthlonSports.com (Neyland wins in this one)

Y! SPORTS (Camp Randall and Jordan Hare above Neyland in this one)

Other factors that can affect a venue/fans: recent successful winning seasons (national championship, rose bowl etc). How close is the field to the fans? How rabid are the fans? I am not downplaying Neyland at all, I just don't think you can weigh it on numbers alone and despite the numbers differences between Jordan Hare, Camp Randall and Neyland I think the noise levels will be comparable to Neyland.

My main points to this ramble: 1.Neyland is a very difficult place to play, comparable to Camp Randall and Jordan Hare, despite the difference in numbers, corroborated by the previous publications. 2. Sheer numbers in the stadium are simply A factor to how hard it is to play in that place, not THE only factor.

End ramble.
 
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good thing USU is more inexperienced across the board than UT. Some of you need to do some research. Talking about UT is young. Nobody in the country lost more starters and productivity than USU. Their best two offensive players are coming off major surgery. Theres about 5-6 other kids listed on their roster right now who are not with the team bc they plan to transfer. it hasnt been updated yet. You talk about the UT O line but they have the same problem. 4 out of 5 new OL and the OL last yr gave up about 35 sacks. Their defense got shredded with attrition, graduation, etc. I know about 12 players starters and rotational players who are no longer at USU. Thats just on Defense. They lost so much all the way down to their LS just like UT. They have less kids on their roster who have started at least 10 games than we do. I could keep going about what they lost. I saw someone say they watched USU last yr. Well good thing that team lost almost 40 players off last years roster. Their secondary will get torched. Just watch.
 
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Madmartigan said:
You have a very quantitative mind and I respect that. I think some times you only look at certain numbers and get tunnel vision on one number alone. Sheer numbers of people in a stadium don't define how hard it is to play there. Ask UT players how loud Autzen was. Autzen holds 53,800 people 50 k or so fewer than Neyland. I would wager Autzen is one of the loudest and most intimidating in the country, and most "rank the loudest stadium" publications would agree with me.

Other factors that can affect a venue/fans: recent successful winning seasons (national championship, rose bowl etc). How close is the field to the fans? How rabid are the fans? I am not downplaying Neyland at all, I just don't think you can weigh it on numbers alone and despite the numbers differences between Jordan Hare, Camp Randall and Neyland I think the noise levels will be comparable to Neyland.
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well it def will not be like ol Romney Stadium come opening kickoff on the 31st
 
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We will pass at will and run well.

They will be contained most of the night with the exception a few big scrambles and perhaps a missed tackle or two. USU will be intimidated by the fans and an early turnover is possible, especially on special teams.

We pull away late in the third quarter.
 
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Utah St is not worthy to clean our stadium after a game..

people worried about them because of their win total last year when they didn't play anyone.

This is a scrub team with scrub players and scrub fans..

And the Vols will be Scrubbing their remains off of their cleats after the game.

And that's if we are even able to call it a game when it is said and done.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I've watched USU play 3 games in the past couple of years. My personal opinion is that there is a better chance of us winning in Norman OK, than beating USU by 3+TDs. The people who think we will destroy USU but get beat by OU by 30 points are smoking something.
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60% of those players you watched are no longer suited up for USU!
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
60% of those players you watched are no longer suited up for USU!
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exactly.

about 60% of all defensive contributors on Defense

and about 70% of all offensive production pass catchers/rushers

A QB off knee surgery. We have seen our players struggle with ACL/MCL recovery. Now imagine not being hit at all since last October and then having 280lbs men runnign full steam at you in front of 102k and you dont fully trust your knee yet.


If you have heard their HC Matt Wells this spring you would know he is not thrilled with his RBs right now. Not even a little bit. So he will throw Joe Hill out there at 190lbs fresh off an ACL and hasnt even played since about Week 5 last yr.
 
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ImportedVoL said:
Utah St is not worthy to clean our stadium after a game..

people worried about them because of their win total last year when they didn't play anyone.

This is a scrub team with scrub players and scrub fans..

And the Vols will be Scrubbing their remains off of their cleats after the game.

And that's if we are even able to call it a game when it is said and done.
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Wow, what a respectful and insightful post.
 
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