14' Legacy Class vs Utah State

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So Lame Kiffin screwed us losing Bryce Petty because he told him he wouldn't fit. Bryce Petty wanted to play for Tennessee & obviously he is not. Bryce Petty is playing his tail off for Baylor & doing well for himself. I hope this is another nightmare for Lame Kiffin.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
that was in 2011. its not even the same team as last year.
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The point was they have a solid program. That game and the games since then prove that out. Are they an SEC team.....no. The case could be made quite well that we have not been an SEC team either.

I expect/ hope we win but its no guarantee.
 
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vtvol98 said:
This opening game will be a bigger lop-sided win than the NC State game, the Cincinnati game and either of the WKU games. It will be much ado about nothing.
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And yet, the folks in Vegas who do this for a living completely say otherwise? Yes they are occasionally wrong, but they're right way more often than not. If we win this game by the amount that some of you are predicting then we should be a favorite in every game but OU and Bama.
 
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One or 2 Fr will play in the secondary. Several will play on ST's. One or maybe two will see time at LB. A couple may see some snaps at DE. I don't think anyone not there during spring will play at DT, OL, TE, or WR. One of the Fr at RB could get some time but I suspect they'd like to RS both.

It is more difficult than many think for a Fr to beat out a guy with 1-3 years experience even when they have more talent. There's an adjustment that has to be made and a lot to learn. That said, many of the Fr will find ways to contribute.

UT still has more talent across the board than USU by a fairly wide margin. All other things equal (coaching, development, effort, etc)... UT has the talent to beat USU by a reasonably large margin. My number has been 17+.
 
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HollowaytoSeivers said:
Who has the special teams advantage in your opinion?
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Ah yes, the one point I forgot. Hmm. After losing Palardy those are some decent sized shoes to fill. If we can recreate his success, which Jones seemed to bring out in him, block a key punt or FG or two again this year, and not get Auburned again, I'd say us. Those are ifs though :p
 
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ImportedVoL said:
Utah St is not worthy to clean our stadium after a game..

people worried about them because of their win total last year when they didn't play anyone.

This is a scrub team with scrub players and scrub fans..

And the Vols will be Scrubbing their remains off of their cleats after the game.

And that's if we are even able to call it a game when it is said and done.
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The Ten Dumbest Fan Bases in America: #10 The University of Tennessee | FOX Sports on MSN

It's posts like these that produce articles like these. Come on man, be more respectful. Even if we were playing Dingleberry U, we're fans of a university that receives national attention. Let's be classy, it's a game.

(Granted it's all that matters in life but still....)
 
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daj2576 said:
You're talking about the difference between stadii in the 80k range versus 102455. Or, an increase in about 25%.

Visualize it like this (from a rough interpolation of human growth charts): It's like the difference between the size of an average 9 year old compared to the size of the average 14 year old. While both are human, thus substantially similar, few would argue that an average 9 year old is close enough in size to a 14 year old to warrant comparison.
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Not that it matters, but wouldn't it be more like an 8 yr old compared to a 10.25 yr old?
 
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sonofUT62 said:
And yet, the folks in Vegas who do this for a living completely say otherwise? Yes they are occasionally wrong, but they're right way more often than not. If we win this game by the amount that some of you are predicting then we should be a favorite in every game but OU and Bama.
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The lines on season openers for both pro and college is a total crap shoot. Vegas has no better info or film than anyone else has on these two teams.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I think that's asking a lot of kids who haven't played a down of college football. The college game is much faster than HS. I think some will see the field but you can bet Keeton will know when they're in and try to exploit the inexperience.
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Keaton is injured and will be limited.

Vols by 21!

:loco:

Tennesseeduke
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
i agree. Our OL are still better. 3 have been together for 4 years and were pretty highly touted themselves. And the other two while inexperienced are more talented. Their O Line was terrible last yr and the second teamers still couldnt crack a rotation. Marcus Jackson could have played on a handful of SEC O Line last yr. People forget how good he was. He just didnt have to play because we had 3-4 NFL player son our line and an older guy at his Left Guard spot. While not as gifted as last yrs Linemen this group is probably meaner.
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Agreed...great point with Jackson and the "meaner" comment. This years group has that NASTINESS that we have been missing for quite some time.
 
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Madmartigan said:
You have a very quantitative mind and I respect that. I think some times you only look at certain numbers and get tunnel vision on one number alone. Sheer numbers of people in a stadium don't define how hard it is to play there. Ask UT players how loud Autzen was. Autzen holds 53,800 people 50 k or so fewer than Neyland. I would wager Autzen is one of the loudest and most intimidating in the country, and most "rank the loudest stadium" publications would agree with me.

NCAA.com ranks top five loudest college football stadiums and two are in the SEC | AL.com (notice Camp Randall in this one and Neyland not)

The 10 Loudest Stadiums in College Football | Bleacher Report (notice Camp Randall above Neyland in this one)

Ranking College Football's Top 25 Uniforms | AthlonSports.com (Neyland wins in this one)

Y! SPORTS (Camp Randall and Jordan Hare above Neyland in this one)

Other factors that can affect a venue/fans: recent successful winning seasons (national championship, rose bowl etc). How close is the field to the fans? How rabid are the fans? I am not downplaying Neyland at all, I just don't think you can weigh it on numbers alone and despite the numbers differences between Jordan Hare, Camp Randall and Neyland I think the noise levels will be comparable to Neyland.

My main points to this ramble: 1.Neyland is a very difficult place to play, comparable to Camp Randall and Jordan Hare, despite the difference in numbers, corroborated by the previous publications. 2. Sheer numbers in the stadium are simply A factor to how hard it is to play in that place, not THE only factor.

End ramble.
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Mad... With the exception of Stanford, the loudness all teams experience in Autzen stadium is the 53,000 or so fans plus the freight train rumble of the Ducks running up and down the field at will. I've seen 100,000 at Neyland sitting on their hands because we were gettin' it handed to us. If it goes our way in Neyland it will be loud. Our fans are are dying for us to get back to those blowout games. Hopefully it starts on 31 August.:salute:
 
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volfaninutah said:
Mad... With the exception of Stanford, the loudness all teams experience in Autzen stadium is the 53,000 or so fans plus the freight train rumble of the Ducks running up and down the field at will. I've seen 100,000 at Neyland sitting on their hands because we were gettin' it handed to us. If it goes our way in Neyland it will be loud. Our fans are are dying for us to get back to those blowout games. Hopefully it starts on 31 August.:salute:
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Yeah, as someone who was there for South Carolina 2013 I can assure anybody unaware reading this that Neyland knows how to party when we're winning. Just wish I could have been there for the Georgia game.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
Yeah, as someone who was there for South Carolina 2013 I can assure anybody unaware reading this that Neyland knows how to party when we're winning. Just wish I could have been there for the Georgia game.
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:good!: I was finally there to experience my first game in Neyland!! The icing on the cake was beating Spurrier!!
 
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The best experience in Neyland that I could ever experience would be attending a game against that school in Gainesville & our Gridiron Vols beating them until they beg for the clock to run out.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
The Ten Dumbest Fan Bases in America: #10 The University of Tennessee | FOX Sports on MSN

It's posts like these that produce articles like these. Come on man, be more respectful. Even if we were playing Dingleberry U, we're fans a university that receives national attention. Let's be classy, it's a game.

(Granted it's all that matters in life but still....)
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Was slightly drunk when I wrote this post.. didn't really mean to come off so mean.. But the point is, these guys are just not in the same league as UT, I am sorry.. experience or not, look at our roster compared to theirs... it is 3*-5* talent going up against 2* players who do not have the size to match up..

If we lost this game, it would be a major stain on UT and on Butch Jones, and I say that as a huge fan of CBJ.
 
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A-RodWiLks said:
Agreed...great point with Jackson and the "meaner" comment. This years group has that NASTINESS that we have been missing for quite some time.
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That is what I think also. I remember the days that even if we lost, we beat teams up so bad that they were not the same after. All through the 80's and 90's. Especially the 80's tho.. our guys were just mean...
 
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ajvol01 said:
Not that it matters, but wouldn't it be more like an 8 yr old compared to a 10.25 yr old?
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I get your logic, but no. Here the illustration was made by discussing the average difference in size at certain ages, not just % change in age.

My goal was to find, for illustration, where an average child of age X is 75% of the average size of child Y. That is roughly the expected difference in sizes of children aged 9 and 14.
 
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