#14 Missouri vs #22 Florida

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Lawrence Wright said:
Yes you did. There were many here claiming Ut beats UF if Hunter doesn't blow out his knee...and I've admitted on at least two occasions UF's coaching is questionable.

It's not like UT has been able to take advantage of our leadership shortcomings, and given our ginormous talent disparity, do you really want Muschamp gone?

I'm not sure what you're arguing at this point.
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No you're not sure what you're arguing. I didn't blame the loss on injury. You tried to minimize talent disparity by dismissing avg recruiting rankings and blaming your injuries when Missouri was without it's all conference level qb. That's what's going on here. Try to keep up with what you're arguing. You must hail from Myakka
 
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StoVol said:
No you're not sure what you're arguing. I didn't blame the loss on injury. You tried to minimize talent disparity by dismissing avg recruiting rankings and blaming your injuries when Missouri was without it's all conference level qb. That's what's going on here. Try to keep up with what you're arguing. You must hail from Myakka
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UF lost today for the same reasons they lost last week...our o-line sucks and our coaching staff loves running dive plays on first down, in spite of how badly our o-line sucks.

Last I checked, UF started a 2* QB whose only other offer out of HS was Temple.
 
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StoVol said:
No you're not sure what you're arguing. I didn't blame the loss on injury. You tried to minimize talent disparity by dismissing avg recruiting rankings and blaming your injuries when Missouri was without it's all conference level qb. That's what's going on here. Try to keep up with what you're arguing. You must hail from Myakka
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UF lost today for the same reasons they lost last week...our o-line sucks and our coaching staff loves running dive plays on first down, in spite of how badly our o-line sucks.

And last I checked, UF started a 2* QB whose only other offer out of HS was Temple.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
UF lost today for the same reasons they lost last week...our o-line sucks and our coaching staff loves running dive plays on first down, in spite of how badly our o-line sucks.

And last I checked, UF started a 2* QB whose only other offer out of HS was Temple.
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That's not what you were saying earlier. Neither are correct btw
 
#82
#82
Johnny football hurt in case anyone is interested
 
#84
#84
Lawrence Wright said:
I said UF's defense isn't the same without Easley and Powell.

Do you disagree?
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You claimed much more than that. There is a. Vast talent disparity amongst the two teams as evidenced empirically earlier correct?
 
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StoVol said:
You claimed much more than that. There is a. Vast talent disparity amongst the two teams as evidenced empirically earlier correct?
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I claimed the following:

- Muschamp sucks.
- UF's defense isn't nearly as dominant without Easley or Powell.

If you disagree with either point, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
#86
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Lawrence Wright said:
I claimed the following:

- Muschamp sucks.
- UF's defense isn't nearly as dominant without Easley or Powell.

If you disagree with either point, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
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You also claimed that fla's recruiting edge on mizz was not a factor and that your injuries trumped mizz injuries. Don't forget that. I've not addressed your other points. You are arguing because you're wrong.
 
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Just for a reference point:

They recruit more in the 3-4 star range with the occasional 5.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2010 Missouri Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2011 Missouri Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Missouri Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2013 Missouri Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2009 Missouri Commitments



Florida should still out-talent them, yeah (well, probably yeah; recruiting rankings are by no means an accurate science). However, it's not like they're playing a school that usually recruits like UK does (or worse).
 
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StoVol said:
You also claimed that fla's recruiting edge on mizz was not a factor and that your injuries trumped mizz injuries. Don't forget that. I've not addressed your other points. You are arguing because you're wrong.
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Bull$h1t.

I said given UF's injuries on defense, a drop off in performance was expected. Don't go putting words in my mouth.
 
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But let's not fool ourselves into thinking your post on recruiting rankings over the past 4 years takes into account attrition or kids who never made it on campus.

I don't care what the average "star" ranking of a given team is, if you lose what UF lost on defense, when the offense sucks .... Blah blah blah
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Missouri must not have any attrition. They were down a dl today too
 
#91
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StoVol said:
That's exactly what you said. Gfy
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You brought up recruiting rankings, not me.

I don't care where UF's recruiting classes were ranked, you don't replace Dominique Easley and Ronald Powell with another Dominique Easley and Ronald Powell.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
You brought up recruiting rankings, not me.

I don't care how where UF's recruiting classes were ranked, you don't replace Dominique Easley and Ronald Powell with another Dominique Easley and Ronald Powell.
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You replace them with players better than mizzous starters, hence your flawed excuse making.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Which completely ignores my point about UF's coaching sucking a$$.
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No one with a brain would argue he's a great coach. You expect to debate that here and get takers for muschamp on a Vol board? You ok? One of my very first posts in this thread said it was due to coaching in this thread right after it was final. Pointing out that's inexcusable with such a sizable talent advantage from a team who can easily sign a top five class every year
 
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StoVol said:
No one with a brain would argue he's a great coach. You expect to debate that here and get takers for muschamp on a Vol board? You ok?
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Oh I'm fine...again, you brought up recruiting rankings, I'm referring two specific players who were elite at their position.

It doesn't matter who they're matched up against, Easley and Powell's replacements won't be nearly as talented as Easley or Powell. I hope one day you hold UT to a similar standard.

I guess UF is on par with UGA as far as underachieving against a less talented Mizzou squad that looks to be headed to Atlanta.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Oh I'm fine...again, you brought up recruiting rankings, I'm referring two specific players who were elite at their position.

It doesn't matter who they're matched up against, Easley and Powell's replacements won't be nearly as talented as Easley or Powell. I hope one day you hold UT to a similar standard.

I guess UF is on par with UGA as far as underachieving against a less talented Mizzou squad that looks to be headed to Atlanta.
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Start talking up mizzou now huh? The sec east sucks , that is all. Mizzou has over performed for sure, and you've underperformed. Your true freshman fowler has outplayed Powell by a mile so your argument is weak.
 
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StoVol said:
Start talking up mizzou now huh? The sec east sucks , that is all. Mizzou has over performed for sure, and you've underperformed. Your true freshman fowler has outplayed Powell by a mile so your argument is weak.
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You even conceded a loss to Mizzou in another thread. They're leading the East...what's not to talk up?

Again, you seem to gloss over my point that UF's coaching staff is underperforming. Are you okay?

Also, Fowler is a sophomore, and yes, hes been a beast. I'm not sure what Fowler has to do with Powell not playing today. Powell is an NFL talent, and given your love for recruiting, he was the #1 recruit coming out of HS in 2009.

To suggest there should be no drop off in performance without Powell or Easley, regardless of competition, is nonsense.
 
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There will be a dropoff, but FL's backups are still more talented than most team's starters on defense.
 
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Hey LW, your thoughts on what happens with UF after season? Muschamp can coach D...but man that offense. Do you change OC again ? Very tough to see Pease and/or Muschamp making it past 2014 w/o vast improvement IMO.
 
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