'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

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chargervol said:
Pruitt was Bama's coach through the playoffs, likely the kid mentioned the possibility then.
Or are you gonna pull a rule about not talking with their own kids outta your ###?
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Pruitt can't talk to the players he coached at Bama. 100% a rule.
 
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BruinVol said:
Simply not true
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So I guess I made this up..... Hmm.....

Oh btw he could talk to these schools because he would have had to sit a year in the SEC, when Saban found out he was wanting to play in 2018 he dropped official paperwork stating he couldn't talk to any SEC schools.

So get your facts straight please. Thank you.
 

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BruinVol said:
If Bama gave the release then its fine. You are saying him simply graduating gives everyone permission to recruit him. That's 120% false
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What I stated was he was granted the release because he was a graduate student. Go back and look sir.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
What I stated was he was granted the release because he was a graduate student. Go back and look sir.
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Ok. Graduate students don't get releases without asking and the schools granting that request. Bama initially blocked him From SEC schools so unless they have changed that Tenn has never been able to contact him
 
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There are two transfer rules. The NCAA rule allows grad transfers to play immediately. The SEC transfer rule stipulates that a transfer has to sit out a year when transferring within the conference, unless the SEC grants a waiver.

Alabama was trying to block Kennedy from talking to UT or AU by withholding permission to contact, under NCAA rules. Now Saban is saying Bama won't block Kennedy from contacting or transferring to either school, but Kennedy will need the SEC waiver to play immediately at another SEC program.
 
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LA Vol said:
There are two transfer rules. The NCAA rule allows grad transfers to play immediately. The SEC transfer rule stipulates that a transfer has to sit out a year when transferring within the conference, unless the SEC grants a waiver.

Alabama was trying to block Kennedy from talking to UT or AU by withholding permission to contact, under NCAA rules. Now Saban is saying Bama won't block Kennedy from contacting or transferring to either school, but Kennedy will need the SEC waiver to play immediately at another SEC program.
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Done deal and great news
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Couple of factors that probably helped Smith's cause are that he only had one year of eligibility left and UGA wasn't on UA's schedule.

In comparison, Kennedy has 3 years left and Tenn & Auburn always play against Alabama.

Those factors, along with the appearance that his transfer isn't based on pursuit of a particular graduate degree at UT that isn't also available at UA and numerous non-restricted schools, probably don't bode well for his appeal at UA.

Hard to tell how much difference those factors might make if he appeals to the SEC.
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That last line is all I was getting at. We don't know
 
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BruinVol said:
Ok. Graduate students don't get releases without asking and the schools granting that request. Bama initially blocked him From SEC schools so unless they have changed that Tenn has never been able to contact him
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No sir they did not initially block him from SEC Schools. Because technically he can be recruited by them if he sits out a year. (Per SEC rules)

Once Kennedy said he wanted to go to one of those schools and play in 2018 he was restricted from having contact with them via officially channels. Which stated he could no longer transfer to any SEC school or have any contact with SEC schools.

This is when all SEC recruiting of Kennedy ceased.

Thanks for trying though.
 
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Bama doesn't have to enforce the rule. If they get out of the way, the conf doesn't enforce it.

That's why it's on Saban.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
No sir they did not initially block him from SEC Schools. Because technically he can be recruited by them if he sits out a year. (Per SEC rules)

Once Kennedy said he wanted to go to one of those schools and play in 2018 he was restricted from having contact with them via officially channels. Which stated he could no longer transfer to any SEC school or have any contact with SEC schools.

This is when all SEC recruiting of Kennedy ceased.

Thanks for trying though.
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When a transfer tells a school he is leaving that school there then has to be writen permission granted for each school to contact him. It's clear here that tenn wasn't given permission from the start. It appears now from
LA post they have changed that in the last few hours or days.

Surely you can understand that
 
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BruinVol said:
When a transfer tells a school he is leaving that school then has to submit in writing permission for schools to contact him. It's clear here that tenn wasn't given permission from the start. It appears now from
LA post they have changed that in the last few hours or days.

Surely you can understand that
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You realize that LA specifically states that Bama after granting a release to Kennedy tried under a different rule to block Kennedy from talking to Tennessee and Auburn - which means Kennedy could have talked to those schools anytime before the NCAA sent a ruling stating that Kennedy couldn't talk to those schools right?
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
You realize that LA specifically states that Bama after granting a release to Kennedy tried under a different rule to block Kennedy from talking to Tennessee and Auburn - which means Kennedy could have talked to those schools anytime before the NCAA sent a ruling stating that Kennedy couldn't talk to those schools right?
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No different rule

You simply need to understand that every single school needs written permission to talk to a transfer. It's clear here Tenn didn't have that until now
 
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BruinVol said:
No different rule

You simply need to understand that every single school needs written permission to talk to a transfer. It's clear here Tenn didn't have that until now
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I think you are missing the point that he was granted a release and could talk to any school he wanted to. He could even talk to SEC schools once granted a release as long as he intended on sitting out a year.

Since he wasn't planning on sitting out a year, Saban filed paperwork that would not allow him to transfer to the SEC this year and would not allow him to talk to any SEC teams.

Now Saban per what you just presented has gone back on this formal document and is allowing him I suppose to talk to the SEC again per what you presented.
 
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jakez4ut said:
That last line is all I was getting at. We don't know
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:toast: Yeah, I knew that's what you meant. I was just trying to state what some of the factors seem to be, and to point out that Kennedy getting a waiver just because Maurice Smith did may not be as automatic as some seem to think.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
:toast: Yeah, I knew that's what you meant. I was just trying to state what some of the factors seem to be, and to point out that Kennedy getting a waiver just because Maurice Smith did may not be as automatic as some seem to think.
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In merit, obviously I agree.
 
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Even if schools can't contact him, I doubt there's a rule that he can't reach out to other schools. Maybe he reached out to gauge interest and Auburn and Tennessee both said they'd take him.
 
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Sleegro said:
Even if schools can't contact him, I doubt there's a rule that he can't reach out to other schools. Maybe he reached out to gauge interest and Auburn and Tennessee both said they'd take him.
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Too simple.
 
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