'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

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jakez4ut said:
depends on what the "other factors" were.
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Couple of factors that probably helped Smith's cause are that he only had one year of eligibility left and UGA wasn't on UA's schedule.

In comparison, Kennedy has 3 years left and Tenn & Auburn always play against Alabama.

Those factors, along with the appearance that his transfer isn't based on pursuit of a particular graduate degree at UT that isn't also available at UA and numerous non-restricted schools, probably don't bode well for his appeal at UA.

Hard to tell how much difference those factors might make if he appeals to the SEC.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Those factors, along with the appearance that his transfer isn't based on pursuit of a particular graduate degree at UT that isn't also available at UA
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This part is big. It defeats the reason the rule was put in place allowing grad transfers to leave and play immediately.
 
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All I am saying is in ending recruitment with the 6'9 JUCO giant, he stated that Tennessee had a sure deal who said he was going to come to Tennessee.

I haven't seen Tennessee actively recruiting anymore offensive lineman, so I am only assuming we got a commit from Kennedy and are only pending the Alabama/SEC ruling.

Also, since we are not currently pursuing anymore lineman even in light of this, I only assume that Tennessee is confident that Kennedy is going to be granted the ability to play at Tennessee.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Couple of factors that probably helped Smith's cause are that he only had one year of eligibility left and UGA wasn't on UA's schedule.

In comparison, Kennedy has 3 years left and Tenn & Auburn always play against Alabama.

Those factors, along with the appearance that his transfer isn't based on pursuit of a particular graduate degree at UT that isn't also available at UA and numerous non-restricted schools, probably don't bode well for his appeal at UA.

Hard to tell how much difference factors might make if he appeals to the SEC.
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Whatever you guys want to try to say to yourselves. He graduated. Move on.
 
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BruinVol said:
This part is big. It defeats the reason the rule was put in place allowing grad transfers to leave and play immediately.
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I may be wrong, but I think there's two key NCAA policies regarding grad transfers:

(1) Grad transfer don't have to sit out a year.

(2) The NCAA will override a transfer release restriction imposed by a school if the restriction is preventing the player from pursuing a graduate degree offerred by the restricted school that is not offered by his current school.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
...I haven't seen Tennessee actively recruiting anymore offensive lineman, so I am only assuming we got a commit from Kennedy and are only pending the Alabama/SEC ruling...
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If UT is talking to Kennedy without permission from UA (which UA has not given) that constitutes tampering.

It appears there is a level of "understanding" between UT and Kennedy that doesn't pass the tampering smell test very well.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
If UT is talking to Kennedy without permission from UA (which UA has not given) that constitutes tampering.
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Obviously this was noted after Kennedy had already said which schools he wanted to play for after he graduated. (Which he can, because he had graduated) however, in previous articles it looked like Saban dropped the flag on him in official paperwork that stated he was not allowed to transfer within the SEC and could not talk to SEC schools.

The recruiting happened before that official letter was sent to Kennedy. Which is why there has been no tampering. Those teams stopped once the letter was signed by Saban.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Obviously this was noted after Kennedy had already said which schools he wanted to play for after he graduated. (Which he can, because he had graduated) however, in previous articles it looked like Saban dropped the flag on him in official paperwork that stated he was not allowed to transfer within the SEC and could not talk to SEC schools.

The recruiting happened before that official letter was sent to Kennedy. Which is why there has been no tampering. Those teams stopped once the letter was signed by Saban.
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Pretty sure tenn couldn't have had any contact with him until Bama gave a release. I'd bet on it
 
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BruinVol said:
Pretty sure tenn couldn't have had any contact with him until Bama gave a release. I'd bet on it
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Then how did Kennedy randomly become a target for the Vols and Auburn I guess that just happened magically.... Without him talking to "Anyone".....

Why would Pruitt get spotlight for actively saying he didn't care where a player went if they were a Graduate Transfer....

Again, I don't know if he was actively recruited, but he could have easily have been talked to... And if Kennedy didn't disclose if he had a release letter that is not technically Tennessee or Auburn's fault. Not saying that is what happened.

I am just saying I am pretty sure there are ways around certain things. Also, again Kennedy couldn't of magically have picked those 2 school's out of all the other programs out there, I'm just saying.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Correct. Schools aren't allowed to communicate with other schools' players at all without permission from the player's school.
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He was no longer a player once he Graduated. Hence, graduate transfer. The only reason he is held by paper is because of an SEC ruling that states you can't transfer within the SEC. He can easily talk to other schools outside of the SEC.

What is to state he didn't know he couldn't talk to SEC schools?
 
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Tidal Surge said:
If UT is talking to Kennedy without permission from UA (which UA has not given) that constitutes tampering.

It appears there is a level of "understanding" between UT and Kennedy that doesn't pass the tampering smell test very well.
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Sorry, but if a player from ANY school initiates contact with coaches from ANY school, there ain't a thing Saban or the NCAA can do about it.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
So you are saying that the kid can't talk to other schools without his coach talking to the schools first? Where's that rule at?
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A coach from another school can't contact a current player at another without a written release from
That school. 120% certain on that.

It's in the manual if you want to look it up
 
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Apparently, Saban said at the spring meetings he would release Kennedy to go anywhere he wanted to go and it's up to the SEC to grant the waiver. It would be a very, very bad look for Sankey to refuse after they've granted it for other players. If the SEC wants to change the rule, change it for next year... or for petitions submitted after the rule change.
 
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BruinVol said:
A coach from another school can't contact a current player at another without a written release from
That school. 120% certain on that.

It's in the manual if you want to look it up
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He had a release from Alabama. Because he was a graduate student. He was already talking to other schools. The only thing that Saban in physical paperwork dropped on him was the fact that he could no Transfer or talk to anyone in the SEC and that was after he was granted a release.
 
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BruinVol said:
A coach from another school can't contact a current player at another without a written release from
That school. 120% certain on that.

It's in the manual if you want to look it up
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Pruitt was Bama's coach through the playoffs, likely the kid mentioned the possibility then.
Or are you gonna pull a rule about not talking with their own kids outta your ###?
 
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Tidal Surge said:
If UT is talking to Kennedy without permission from UA (which UA has not given) that constitutes tampering.

It appears there is a level of "understanding" between UT and Kennedy that doesn't pass the tampering smell test very well.
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And Gehrig Dieter just used the Force to end up at Bama? :)
 
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