'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

[roosterjbh]

Some people just listen to other VN posters instead of actual experts or coaches.

I don't understand why people don't want this guy. He could be elite at multiple positions. I've heard nothing about his grades except from a rumor from Ainge that people have taken off with (if someone will link a rivals or 247 article stating grade issues I'll retract this) The numbers will work itself out, CBJ has dropped kids for better prospects to help the numbers (Booth,Dews)

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

247 has him as the number one DUEL THREAT QB, and he played QB at the last ING camp or whatever it was called down in Florida.

I would guess the Gibsonites gave you some likes, but the fact is your not accurate. 247 does NOT list TG as the #1 DT QB. Click on Murray's DT QB profile. You will then note that 247 says HE is the #1 DT QB. You would then also notice that Stidham, Barnett, Francois, Waller, Jones, and others round out the top 10. Nowhere in there is Torrance Gibson. He is rated as an ATH, and not in with the DT QBs.

 

[Go Fight Win]

Ainge is like Wikipedia. Sometimes he brings solid facts. Sometimes, however, he brings info that was edited by a 12 year old.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Ainge is like Wikipedia. Sometimes he brings solid facts. Sometimes, however, he brings info that was edited by a 12 year old.

I agree. I'd never run with anything just Ainge was saying. There is obviously a lot of other sources saying there are at least some "concerns" here.

I'm also quite confident in saying neither AU or OSU would stop recruiting a kid this early if they really wanted him. I love our staff, but it's way too early to think Butch Jones would scare off either of those staffs. IMO a lot of schools are backing off and it is NOT because TG is leaning 1 way or another.

 

[roosterjbh]

I would guess the Gibsonites gave you some likes, but the fact is your not accurate. 247 does NOT list TG as the #1 DT QB. Click on Murray's DT QB profile. You will then note that 247 says HE is the #1 DT QB. You would then also notice that Stidham, Barnett, Francois, Waller, Jones, and others round out the top 10. Nowhere in there is Torrance Gibson. He is rated as an ATH, and not in with the DT QBs.

Alright, but he is still listed as a Duel Threat QB. That's misleading how they have that.

 

[Go Fight Win]

I agree. I'd never run with anything just Ainge was saying. There is obviously a lot of other sources saying there are at least some "concerns" here.

I'm also quite confident in saying neither AU or OSU would stop recruiting a kid this early if they really wanted him. I love our staff, but it's way too early to think Butch Jones would scare off either of those staffs. IMO a lot of schools are backing off and it is NOT because TG is leaning 1 way or another.

TG is still a priority for us. However, would I say that he is being recruited like he was a few months ago? No.

I do think they would take the commitment at the end of the day.

 

[Volzfan38024]

Why do most people on here think we need a stud qb to win a championship? Peyton is about as good as you get and he didn't win it. Martin was nothing compared to Manning and won it all. AJ won several for Bamma but he will never be a great NFL qb. It's about team and defense!

 

[Maxwell]

I doubt if Hubbs gets his info from Hooker. Maybe TG does have UT as his favorite. Most likely it has more to do with twitter #'s at this point. Of course if Hubbs thinks UT would not take his commitment going forward, it makes sense he would say what he did about he would not call Tennessee the favorite going forward.

While I do not agree with you in this thread I have pretty much been willing to respect your opinion and grant that their could be some small chance you are right. To say it is twitter followers at this point is ludicrous though. He spent time at Auburn, then much more time at Tennessee. He seemed to thoroughly enjoy his time at Tennessee and has had Tennessee his leader ever since. There is really no evidence that twitter is a factor at this point. He is even talking about moving the date up some which could be due to the realization his spot might be gone if he does not. Additionally, in the last commit rush we just had how many of us had any of those guys on or near the top of our list ? Maybe Kamara but that is probably the only player any of you expected in that little rush. We have no idea Jones plan, but he most definitely has one. Several could grayshirt or even blueshirt. We have no idea who is considering leaving the program. I fully believe some players could be getting recruited over which may create a vacancy that we have not considered. There may be much more room than we think. We just do not know.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

While I do not agree with you in this thread I have pretty much been willing to respect your opinion and grant that their could be some small chance you are right. To say it is twitter followers at this point is ludicrous though. He spent time at Auburn, then much more time at Tennessee. He seemed to thoroughly enjoy his time at Tennessee and has had Tennessee his leader ever since. There is really no evidence that twitter is a factor at this point. He is even talking about moving the date up some which could be due to the realization his spot might be gone if he does not. Additionally, in the last commit rush we just had how many of us had any of those guys on or near the top of our list ? Maybe Kamara but that is probably the only player any of you expected in that little rush. We have no idea Jones plan, but he most definitely has one. Several could grayshirt or even blueshirt. We have no idea who is considering leaving the program. I fully believe some players could be getting recruited over which may create a vacancy that we have not considered. There may be much more room than we think. We just do not know.

The fact CBJ took a few surprises recently IMO points to him filling needs and not so much taking "best available". That IMO even more so points to TG likely not being a take for Tennessee. IMO they will not take a 3rd QB and IF Van Jefferson picks UT, IMO their is no chance UT takes another WR.

1-OL
1-DE
2-CB(Maybe 1 if Van to WR and Bruce to CB)
2-DT
1-WR
1-LB

That's it IMO. I just don't see them taking anyone else at any other positions. I bet they would like another LB, but I just don't see it all working out. McGraw is another one to consider at CB/S.

As I have said I see no way TG removes UT from the top or at least near the top of his list. I'd bet the UT coaches could stop recruiting him altogether and he would not remove them until closer to NSD. The kid likes the attention way too much to risk losing 8-10,000 followers in the matter of a day. I don't think OSU or AU are pushing for him at all and he still has them on his list. IMO he will keep the better schools on the list till he decides. If his list was all instate schools, it would not look near as good.

JMO

 

[Maxwell]

The fact CBJ took a few surprises recently IMO points to him filling needs and not so much taking "best available". That IMO even more so points to TG likely not being a take for Tennessee. IMO they will not take a 3rd QB and IF Van Jefferson picks UT, IMO their is no chance UT takes another WR.

1-OL
1-DE
2-CB(Maybe 1 if Van to WR and Bruce to CB)
2-DT
1-WR
1-LB

That's it IMO. I just don't see them taking anyone else at any other positions. I bet they would like another LB, but I just don't see it all working out. McGraw is another one to consider at CB/S.

As I have said I see no way TG removes UT from the top or at least near the top of his list. I'd bet the UT coaches could stop recruiting him altogether and he would not remove them until closer to NSD. The kid likes the attention way too much to risk losing 8-10,000 followers in the matter of a day.

JMO

Filling needs is what he is paid to do. My point is that it is HIS plan not ours. When it is all said and done there will be several more players we did not expect at this point. That is the fun of speculating for us. To think that any of us really have any idea what the end product is though is just wrong. Remember last year? I thought some people were going to go to the staff and get in their faces over taking EM and not grayshirting him. Now he is in the two deep and word is he may even be a starter this fall. Almost all of us were against taking him. We just need to trust the coaches, quit making derogatory comments about the players that they may see and sit back and enjoy the ride. Would we have won a NC without Al Wilson? What about Billy Ratliff, Gooden, or Henry? We do not know which player may contribute to a NC. I want whoever the coaches want. Then I hope the coaches selected well. CBJ has given us little reason to doubt his evaluation process.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

I DON'T want Gibson. Guy is self-obsessed and has academic problems. We need team guys. You think Gibson has a good attitude?

Do you know Gibson has a bad attitude?

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Filling needs is what he is paid to do. My point is that it is HIS plan not ours. When it is all said and done there will be several more players we did not expect at this point. That is the fun of speculating for us. To think that any of us really have any idea what the end product is though is just wrong. Remember last year? I thought some people were going to go to the staff and get in their faces over taking EM and not grayshirting him. Now he is in the two deep and word is he may even be a starter this fall. Almost all of us were against taking him. We just need to trust the coaches, quit making derogatory comments about the players that they may see and sit back and enjoy the ride. Would we have won a NC without Al Wilson? What about Billy Ratliff, Gooden, or Henry? We do not know which player may contribute to a NC. I want whoever the coaches want. Then I hope the coaches selected well. CBJ has given us little reason to doubt his evaluation process.

You're right about wanting the players the coaches want. I 100% support any kids that our coaches decide to take as Vols. That is why you see me counting punters, long snappers, and other 2-3* kids as Vols and always include them in my class predictions. I don't worry much over *'s. I just see no reason to look at the "UT claimed Board" and just assume that whoever is rated higher is a sure take and anyone ranked lower is always on the chopping block.

I like what you said there. I like and pull for the kids the coaches decide to take. :good!:

 

[Maxwell]

You're right about wanting the players the coaches want. I 100% support any kids that our coaches decide to take as Vols. That is why you see me counting punters, long snappers, and other 2-3* kids as Vols and always include them in my class predictions. I don't worry much over *'s. I just see no reason to look at the "UT claimed Board" and just assume that whoever is rated higher is a sure take and anyone ranked lower is always on the chopping block.

I like what you said there. I like and pull for the kids the coaches decide to take. :good!:

Cool. I think what some fail to realize is that this is more of a big business. It is so far removed from high school ball that it is truly unbelievable. In the old days, and even when I was a kid, it was not anywhere near the jump it is today. I once spoke with our great former QB C Holloway about that. It has changed so much.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Why do most people on here think we need a stud qb to win a championship? Peyton is about as good as you get and he didn't win it. Martin was nothing compared to Manning and won it all. AJ won several for Bamma but he will never be a great NFL qb. It's about team and defense!

You could say that about any position.

So, for clarity, you are saying we don't need to worry about the most important position.. Because other teams have won without a good player there?

Yeah, I don't know about that logic champ.

 

[vol-un-tear]

Dormady will compete as well as Jennings. Both bUTch recruits. Jennings may end up at another position but he can throw and is very athletic.

 

[Volzfan38024]

You could say that about any position.

So, for clarity, you are saying we don't need to worry about the most important position.. Because other teams have won without a good player there?

Yeah, I don't know about that logic champ.

Well Champ I guess you can't see all the talent that Butch is bringing in. We have 2 qbs committed. However they're not rated that high, but they will get the job done. Let me guess you are expecting to win the SEC this year? Get a grip dude. Butch will lead us to greatness with or with out a top notch qb. Just not this year.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

How about a pool for how many times Kesling calls Dormady "Dormandy"?

 

[Maxwell]

From Ari Wasserman who works with Cleveland.com :

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Ohio State was once considered one of the teams to beat in the recruitment of four-star quarterback Torrance Gibson of Plantation (Fla.) American Heritage.

But Gibson recently dropped the Buckeyes to the last spot in his final seven, telling cleveland.com that his lost contact with Ohio State's coaching staff was the reason for the fall.

At that point, it seemed as if Ohio State and Gibson were heading in different directions.

And in the time since, Ohio State has seemed content with taking only one quarterback in the 2015 class - three-star quarterback Joey Burrow of Athens, Ohio. The Buckeyes dropped Gibson and didn't offer four-star quarterback Travis Waller of Anaheim (Calif.) Servite.

They're done at quarterback in 2015, right?

Well, that is still likely the case, but something Gibson wrote on his blog with USA Today may imply that Ohio State hasn't completely moved on from recruiting the dual-threat quarterback.

"After the (recent) visit, I would still have to say that Tennessee is the leader for me right now," Gibson wrote. "I want to try and visit Ohio State this summer before my season kicks off. I want to visit UCF, too."

What?

Part of the reason it seemed as if Gibson was out of the picture was because a summer visit never seemed like an option. Then he told cleveland.com he wasn't sure he would even officially visit Ohio State in the fall before making a decision in December or later.

Now all of a sudden Gibson is potentially interested in visiting Columbus - on his dime - before the season?

That implies that Gibson still has interest in Ohio State. More importantly, that implies that Ohio State may still has interest in him.

 

[ACvol3]

VN rumors about a recruit does not equal fact.. I hate this thread now because all of these ppl hear a rumor and run with it, and speak of it as fact, even without any proof.. They want to be right SO bad that they twist any little thing to fit their agenda.. It's sad.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Well Champ I guess you can't see all the talent that Butch is bringing in. We have 2 qbs committed. However they're not rated that high, but they will get the job done. Let me guess you are expecting to win the SEC this year? Get a grip dude. Butch will lead us to greatness with or with out a top notch qb. Just not this year.

Dormady and Jennings aren't rated that high? Hahaha ok

 

[Vol8188]

I would rather control the line of scrimmage, I will take five star linemen anyday! Control the l.o.s. and everything else will work itself out!

You're comparing 9 positions to one. If you want to go 1 for 1, qb is the most important position on the team.

 

[Vol8188]

VN rumors about a recruit does not equal fact.. I hate this thread now because all of these ppl hear a rumor and run with it, and speak of it as fact, even without any proof.. They want to be right SO bad that they twist any little thing to fit their agenda.. It's sad.

So you're telling me he's a vol?


BOOM!!!!!!!

 

[Vol8188]

From Ari Wasserman who works with Cleveland.com :

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Ohio State was once considered one of the teams to beat in the recruitment of four-star quarterback Torrance Gibson of Plantation (Fla.) American Heritage.

But Gibson recently dropped the Buckeyes to the last spot in his final seven, telling cleveland.com that his lost contact with Ohio State's coaching staff was the reason for the fall.

At that point, it seemed as if Ohio State and Gibson were heading in different directions.

And in the time since, Ohio State has seemed content with taking only one quarterback in the 2015 class - three-star quarterback Joey Burrow of Athens, Ohio. The Buckeyes dropped Gibson and didn't offer four-star quarterback Travis Waller of Anaheim (Calif.) Servite.

They're done at quarterback in 2015, right?

Well, that is still likely the case, but something Gibson wrote on his blog with USA Today may imply that Ohio State hasn't completely moved on from recruiting the dual-threat quarterback.

"After the (recent) visit, I would still have to say that Tennessee is the leader for me right now," Gibson wrote. "I want to try and visit Ohio State this summer before my season kicks off. I want to visit UCF, too."

What?

Part of the reason it seemed as if Gibson was out of the picture was because a summer visit never seemed like an option. Then he told cleveland.com he wasn't sure he would even officially visit Ohio State in the fall before making a decision in December or later.

Now all of a sudden Gibson is potentially interested in visiting Columbus - on his dime - before the season?

That implies that Gibson still has interest in Ohio State. More importantly, that implies that Ohio State may still has interest in him.

Who said it was on his dime? The kid has been talking about taking an official to OSU for awhile.

 

[Maxwell]

Who said it was on his dime? The kid has been talking about taking an official to OSU for awhile.

Hey he said it , not me. I agree with you.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Gibson is NOT an elite quarterback.... find any recruiting service that says he is.....he is listed as an elite athlete... try to find one camp or 7 on 7 that he has been to this summer where he even played quarterback.....He been playing wide receiver.....OP you are sounding like a tool ...unless.....Torence is that you ??????

Find a site that says Jennings or Dormady is an elite QB. All these guys have yet to play their senior seasons. They are all going to become better passers.