'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

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Vol8188 said:
I really don't see these two as debatable. If we weren't still recruiting him, he wouldn't name us his leader. And of course he wants to play here, that's why we are his leader.

As for this 2016 qb debate, if we redshirt Gibson we don't need a 2016 qb.
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It has been very clear this year that the UT staff is still recruiting kids who they would absolutely not take today. There have been many examples of this already this cycle with UT leading for kids and them trying to commit to the Vols and UT not taking them.

IF they took Gibson/RSed him and by doing so missed on a 2016 QB, then TG ended up being moved to WR after his RS season, then it does matter that you missed in 2016.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
It has been very clear this year that the UT staff is still recruiting kids who they would absolutely not take today. There have been many examples of this already this cycle with UT leading for kids and them trying to commit to the Vols and UT not taking them.

IF they took Gibson/RSed him and by doing so missed on a 2016 QB, then TG ended up being moved to WR after his RS season, then it does matter that you missed in 2016.
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Not when you have JJ and Dormandy also. And most likely they both redshirt also.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Most of us want Gibson on the team. There are a handful that don't for reasons that are just utterly stupid. Those people would actually be happy that one of the country's most electric players decided to lay somewhere else. It's sad actually. As bad as we have been, you would think every fan would want as many highly talented players as possible to come here.
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We all want talented players in Orange. A lot of us would just rather use the scholarship on a position of need and on a kid who will actually make an impact at his position and not be an "issue" for our Vols.

You're stuck on the *'s and that's alright. I'm just glad our coaches are not. :thumbsup:
 
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Originally Posted by BondJamesBond
"Does Coach Jones want TG at all?
Does TG want to be a Volunteer?"

Vol8188 said:
I really don't see these two as debatable. If we weren't still recruiting him, he wouldn't name us his leader. And of course he wants to play here, that's why we are his leader.

As for this 2016 qb debate, if we redshirt Gibson we don't need a 2016 qb.
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I included those because of the speculation about why he is (or is not) at the same school/put the work in at QB etc., and the fact that while TG lists us first, the list extends beyond UT. I agree that both seem fairly likely. Ultimately, you may well be correct, but at this point I think neither can be completely nailed down. JMO
 
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Vol8188 said:
Not when you have JJ and Dormandy also. And most likely they both redshirt also.
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I would still without hesitation pass on a 3rd QB in 2015 to add a talented QB in 2016 who could then RS and space the kids out roster wise. Also I could see it playing out where if QD can EE, then he may not RS. He would be IMO #3 at worst and possibly even #2 behind Dobbs going into 2015.

Dobbs SR
Dormady SO
Peterman RSJR
Jennings RSFR
Kendall(or whoever) TFR(RS)

Headed into 2016 would set us up well IMO.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
We all want talented players in Orange. A lot of us would just rather use the scholarship on a position of need and on a kid who will actually make an impact at his position and not be an "issue" for our Vols.

You're stuck on the *'s and that's alright. I'm just glad our coaches are not. :thumbsup:
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We wouldn't be his leader if we weren't recruiting him hard. Not sure why he'd be an "issue" for our Vols. Have any evidence? Anything that has been floated out by reporters has been refuted by other reporters. Nothing has been from the schools, coaches, or TG.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I would still without hesitation pass on a 3rd QB in 2015 to add a talented QB in 2016 who could then RS and space the kids out roster wise. Also I could see it playing out where if QD can EE, then he may not RS. He would be IMO #3 at worst and possibly even #2 behind Dobbs going into 2015.

Dobbs SR
Dormady SO
Peterman RSJR
Jennings RSFR
Kendall(or whoever) TFR(RS)

Headed into 2016 would set us up well IMO.
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You've been wrong before so might as well keep spewing. You must have no faith in the staff to think that we wouldn't be able to get a 2016 QB after JJ and TG get on campus. We did get Dobbs in January and there are still good 2015 QB recruits in play. 2016 QB is a non-issue in Gibson's recruitment.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
Originally Posted by BondJamesBond
"Does Coach Jones want TG at all?
Does TG want to be a Volunteer?"



I included those because of the speculation about why he is (or is not) at the same school/put the work in at QB etc., and the fact that while TG lists us first, the list extends beyond UT. I agree that both seem fairly likely. Ultimately, you may well be correct, but at this point I think neither can be completely nailed down. JMO
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I still don't see the "does the staff want him?". They wouldn't waste time recruiting him if they didn't want him. We could argue how far down the list he is, but clearly he is wanted.

As for the second one, as of the last few months the team Gibson has wanted to go to more than any other team is UT. It's obvious that he currently wants to be a vol. Can that change? Absolutely. But I don't see that as debatable either. Having a second or third team doesn't negate the fact that he prefers us.
 
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UTChicagoV said:
We wouldn't be his leader if we weren't recruiting him hard. Not sure why he'd be an "issue" for our Vols. Have any evidence? Anything that has been floated out by reporters has been refuted by other reporters. Nothing has been from the schools, coaches, or TG.
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Schools and coaches CAN'T comment...so this latest upswing is brought to you by the ultra reliable sources of Trent Dilfer and TG himself....and Purina! :yess:
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I would still without hesitation pass on a 3rd QB in 2015 to add a talented QB in 2016 who could then RS and space the kids out roster wise. Also I could see it playing out where if QD can EE, then he may not RS. He would be IMO #3 at worst and possibly even #2 behind Dobbs going into 2015.

Dobbs SR
Dormady SO
Peterman RSJR
Jennings RSFR
Kendall(or whoever) TFR(RS)

Headed into 2016 would set us up well IMO.
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Even if he's number two I think you redshirt him and then you simply bring him to a game if you have to.
 
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UTChicagoV said:
We wouldn't be his leader if we weren't recruiting him hard. Not sure why he'd be an "issue" for our Vols. Have any evidence? Anything that has been floated out by reporters has been refuted by other reporters. Nothing has been from the schools, coaches, or TG.
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How many kids have tried to commit to Tennessee this year and been told 'No" by the staff? It has played out numerous times. It's hilarious people keep using the "we are his leader because the staff is all in". IMO there are just too many other sources saying it's just not true beyond TG himself.

I get that some folks have tried to refute the "issues". The fact is about the same time these "issues" came to light, AU started to push for other QBs, OSU took another QB, and UT took another QB. Many sources still talk about him having "issues" tied to his recruitment. You can choose to allow the *'s to blind you. I choose not to.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
How many kids have tried to commit to Tennessee this year and been told 'No" by the staff? It has played out numerous times. It's hilarious people keep using the "we are his leader because the staff is all in". IMO there are just too many other sources saying it's just not true beyond TG himself.

I get that some folks have tried to refute the "issues". The fact is about the same time these "issues" came to light, AU started to push for other QBs, OSU took another QB, and UT took another QB. Many sources still talk about him having "issues" tied to his recruitment. You can choose to allow the *'s to blind you. I choose not to.
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Have you seen the kid play? It's not about stars but the fact that he could help the Vols at multiple positions due to his elite athleticism. And unless I missed something, the staff hasn't turned away anyone of his caliber.
 
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UTChicagoV said:
You've been wrong before so might as well keep spewing. You must have no faith in the staff to think that we wouldn't be able to get a 2016 QB after JJ and TG get on campus. We did get Dobbs in January and there are still good 2015 QB recruits in play. 2016 QB is a non-issue in Gibson's recruitment.
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Of course I have been wrong before. I give a lot of opinions on a lot of situations. I am not afraid to be wrong. I just don't fall in line so much with the popular vote if my opinion is different. I have faith in the staff. Them choosing to take a passing QB in QD WHILE TG was on campus told me all I needed to know about where they stood with 2015 QB recruiting.

After getting Peterman in 2012, the new staff was able to get 2 QBs in 2013. We won't go into "how" they got 2 in 2013 as that has been hashed out before. After getting 2 in 2013, they could not get a QB to even give them a sniff in 2014. 32 signees, and no QB. The staff kept swinging, and kept missing. You can choose to ignore it, but it is what it is. I'd rather not see it happen in 2016.

JMO
 
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It is clear if TG wants to come he has an open invitation from Butch to do so despite the conspiracy drama posted on here. Trent Dilfer knows what he is talking about as has been proven multiple times. I remain hopeful, but realize other programs want him as well. Elite QB of the future for somebody.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Teran Johnson (@TeranJ_WUTK)
"Trent Dilfer on Torrance Gibson (@quick_tg6): 'I believe he should be and can be a QB at the next level.' #TheOpening #Vols"

"More Dilfer on @quick_tg6 : 'If you give (Gibson) a year or two to develop at the quarterback position, he could win the Heisman trophy.'"

Dilfer must be mistaken I guess. So he is saying that after his senior season and a RS season, Gibson could be a very good QB? Wow. Pretty good endorsement there.
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I'm sorry but you make room for this guy, period.
 
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I have never seen so many people so split on a recruit....half of you think he'll play here or the barn. The other half think he may make it at Slippery Rock U.

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Vols4us said:
It is clear if TG wants to come he has an open invitation from Butch to do so despite the conspiracy drama posted on here. Trent Dilfer knows what he is talking about as has been proven multiple times. I remain hopeful, but realize other programs want him as well. Elite QB of the future for somebody.
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I don't think everyone feels it's "clear" and it's just not folks on this board who thinks UT passes.
 
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BennisDrewer said:
I have never seen so many people so split on a recruit....half of you think he'll play here or the barn. The other half think he may make it at Slippery Rock U.

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I think Miami might take him. With Lawson already committed for 2015 and Allison for 2016, they may not. I'm not sure how their QB situation is on the roster. Maybe WR is an option there.
 
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BennisDrewer said:
I have never seen so many people so split on a recruit....half of you think he'll play here or the barn. The other half think he may make it at Slippery Rock U.

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He's better than that!...Appalachian State is a quality program. :)
 
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