'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

[roosterjbh]

The blurb on volquest this morning sure made it seem like UT leads for Gibson and in return they are doing their due dillegence.

There is renewed optimism here.

Could you post it or was it what Tux has already posted?

 

[butchna]

Trent Dilfer was a terrible NFL quarterback. For a guy picked # 6 overall, he has to be considered a bust. Here are his career stats: 55% completion percentage, 6.5 yds / att, 0.87 TD-to-INT ratio, 70.2 passer rating. All of those numbers would put him 30th or worse among NFL QBs in 2013, around the likes of Terrell Pryor and Brandon Weeden.

Definitely the worst QB to ever win a Superbowl, and its not even close...

He is able to put sentences together (unlike Emmitt Smith)...and he has a Super Bowl win on his resume... Great bullet points!...fail to see how that translates into watching a kid TRY to throw a football in shorts and able to determine he's a future Heisman candidate.

 

[k-town_king]

The blurb on volquest this morning sure made it seem like UT leads for Gibson and in return they are doing their due dillegence.

There is renewed optimism here.

It doesn't matter to those that hate him. They will ignore anything that says anything good about Gibson or anything saying we are after him.

 

[butchna]

It doesn't matter to those that hate him. They will ignore anything that says anything good about Gibson or anything saying we are after him.

I don't hate him...I'm just not in love with him like you apparently are. :wub:

 

[AboveAllNations]

He is able to put sentences together (unlike Emmitt Smith)...and he has a Super Bowl win on his resume... Great bullet points!...fail to see how that translates into watching a kid TRY to throw a football in shorts and able to determine he's a future Heisman candidate.

I could have quarterbacked the 2000 Ravens to a Super Bowl win, so that's not impressive at all. He threw for 12 touchdowns and 11 interceptions that year for a whopping 76.6 QB rating.

Although I wouldn't put much stock into what he thinks makes a good QB, I happen to agree that Gibson has Heisman-caliber potential at QB. It doesn't take a genius or an expert to figure that out from his highlight tape and Florida state championship trophy.

 

[k-town_king]

I don't hate him...I'm just not in love with him like you apparently are. :wub:

You are in his thread way more than me. Maybe you are in love with him.

:wub:

:dunno:

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Everybody knows you don't want TG. Were you happy Dobbs was Elite 11? Meet Trent Dilfer.

Trent Dilfer: He's Obsessed with Building Elite QBs and Human Beings | Bleacher Report

Who cares what Trent Dilfer thinks? He does not coach at UT, nor does he run our offense. When Trent starts coaching a college team, he can recruit whatever players he likes. As for now I am rolling with Dormandy.

 

[TriedAndTrueVOL]

You do not cut ties with players because of stars.

You fill needs at various positions of importance. You fill those needs with the best talent that you can get and talent that you yourself have evaluated, not what some analyst in his office thinks you should do based upon his star system.

Agreed.

 

[butchna]

You are in his thread way more than me. Maybe you are in love with him.

:wub:

:dunno:

Your presence isn't lacking in here...you put the "hate" label on anyone that disagrees with you...bet you're fun at parties. :yahoo:

 

[AboveAllNations]

He is able to put sentences together (unlike Emmitt Smith)...and he has a Super Bowl win on his resume... Great bullet points!...fail to see how that translates into watching a kid TRY to throw a football in shorts and able to determine he's a future Heisman candidate.

On a related note, why are you and the Gibson critics hyping up Dormady when he hasn't even played in a real game since 2012? Gibson carried his team to a state championship, so he's already proven that he's a winner. We really have no idea what we're getting with Quentin Dormady.

Btw, I'm not down on Dormday at all. I'm just pointing out that he's a far less proven passer than Torrance Gibson. I'm not lingering in his thread badmouthing his potential like some people.

 

[Skullbone]

Trent Dilfer is still more qualified to evaluate talent than anyone up in here. High post counts and hudl video views do not put people in a position to talk down the qualification and judgment of Trent Dilfer.

 

[westside]

I'm not into posting direct quotes from other sites but it was along the lines of "Gibson reiterated TN is his leader again and TN is investigating him and continues to recruit him"

thats not the exact wording but it was made to sound as if there is optimism that TG ends up a vol.

 

[k-town_king]

Your presence isn't lacking in here...you put the "hate" label on anyone that disagrees with you...bet you're fun at parties. :yahoo:

There must be some level of "hate" when you spend an inordinate amount of time in a player's thread who you don't want and who you think we aren't recruiting. There are only so many times you can say the same thing before it creeps into the "hate" level. I'm not completely sold on Dormady. I stay out of his thread unless I have something positive to say. You and a few other posters are on a campaign to dispute anything positive and promote anything negative real or rumor. Maybe yall are hoping he or his family reads the thread and gets pissed off? Maybe yalll think you can change others opinions who want him? Idk but it is ridiculous to stay in a kids thread every single day just to bash him and shoot down anyone who doesn't want to bash him also. Hate may not be the word but it is the closest to describing what you and the others seem to feel towards Gibson. If it was as simple as thinking he wasn't a good prospect you got that across a long time ago. To continually push your anti Gibson agenda around the clock shows some level of animosity.

 

[roosterjbh]

I'm not into posting direct quotes from other sites but it was along the lines of "Gibson reiterated TN is his leader again and TN is investigating him and continues to recruit him"

thats not the exact wording but it was made to sound as if there is optimism that TG ends up a vol.

Gotcha, thanks

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Trent Dilfer is still more qualified to evaluate talent than anyone up in here. High post counts and hudl video views do not put people in a position to talk down the qualification and judgment of Trent Dilfer.

Ehhhh....Trent Dilfer also thinks he's a HOF QB. He is a royal douche.

 

[Skullbone]

Ehhhh....Trent Dilfer also thinks he's a HOF QB. He is a royal douche.

Maybe, but he's STILL more qualified. People are suggesting he doesn't know anything about QB talent just because they don't want to believe TG can possibly be QB material.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

You do not cut ties with players because of stars.

You fill needs at various positions of importance. You fill those needs with the best talent that you can get and talent that you yourself have evaluated, not what some analyst in his office thinks you should do based upon his star system.

That's a rather silly way to try and frame it. The stars typically indicate a higher level of talent. Nobody is saying the staff goes by the services' ranking. It's not an exact science, but it's a pretty close indicator, especially when you have multiple services evaluating the same prospect and coming to the same conclusion.

So, let's say...come November/December, we are full and have Josh Sweat, Tuttle and Gibson wanting to commit, there ain't no way the staff doesn't bite the bullet and MAKE room (ie. bump some of the 3 star guys). That's been part of the recruiting landscape in every program, since the dawn of time. You can play pretend all you want, but it happens.

Case in point....even Kevin Mouton was committed for months, when late in game, CBJ and staff asked him to look around.

 

[butchna]

On a related note, why are you and the Gibson critics hyping up Dormady when he hasn't even played in a real game since 2012? Gibson carried his team to a state championship, so he's already proven that he's a winner. We really have no idea what we're getting with Quentin Dormady.

Btw, I'm not down on Dormday at all. I'm just pointing out that he's a far less proven passer than Torrance Gibson. I'm not lingering in his thread badmouthing his potential like some people.

Seen both their films...IMO Dormady was way more impressive passing wise AS A SOPHOMORE than Gibson's sample size...I think people get dazzled at his running 40 yards behind the line of scrimmage and actually think he'll be doing that in the SEC...I happen to disagree.

 

[butchna]

There must be some level of "hate" when you spend an inordinate amount of time in a player's thread who you don't want and who you think we aren't recruiting. There are only so many times you can say the same thing before it creeps into the "hate" level. I'm not completely sold on Dormady. I stay out of his thread unless I have something positive to say. You and a few other posters are on a campaign to dispute anything positive and promote anything negative real or rumor. Maybe yall are hoping he or his family reads the thread and gets pissed off? Maybe yalll think you can change others opinions who want him? Idk but it is ridiculous to stay in a kids thread every single day just to bash him and shoot down anyone who doesn't want to bash him also. Hate may not be the word but it is the closest to describing what you and the others seem to feel towards Gibson. If it was as simple as thinking he wasn't a good prospect you got that across a long time ago. To continually push your anti Gibson agenda around the clock shows some level of animosity.

Your conspiracies require a lot of words to explain...if they were ever made into a movie they'd make JFK look like an Ivan Reitman flick.

 

[NoogaVFL]

Seen both their films...IMO Dormady was way more impressive passing wise AS A SOPHOMORE than Gibson's sample size...I think people get dazzled at his running 40 yards behind the line of scrimmage and actually think he'll be doing that in the SEC...I happen to disagree.

They think that he can because Johnny Football did it...

 

[cncchris33]

Ehhhh....Trent Dilfer also thinks he's a HOF QB. He is a royal douche.

Actually, Trent Dilfer is a pretty incredible human being with a fantastic backstory and a passion for wanting to work and help young men succeed on the field and off.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Last year, we had almost 20 4* recruits. This year we only have about 3, thus far. Sure, some of those will likely get bumped up to a 4*. But we currently have a glut of 3* players.

As excited as I am about this class, I'm equally concerned that we've also loaded up too much and too early on 3* guys. I suspect that it may not be that we are totally sold on all of them nor lowering our standards. But it does 2 things that could be beneficial in the long run:

1) Fills up the class fast and heightens the level of urgency for the upper echelon players...hoping they will commit sooner rather than later

2) Let's us secure players (early) we think are better than their current rating would indicate...and may have to fight for their commitment harder, once their stock goes up during their Senior season. Dormady, Cherry, Austin Smith, and Picou are some names that come to mind.

But the tradeoff is, if we suddenly have more elite players ready to commit, than we have spots...then you HAVE to start bumping some of those guys who committed early. Makes it an ugly situation all of a sudden.

Or CBJ just does not give a rat's behind about what the services "ranked" a player. He sees them in person, evaluates their film, and then makes a decision. Does it really matter if the kid is a 2* or a 4* IF CBJ wants to take them?

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

On a related note, why are you and the Gibson critics hyping up Dormady when he hasn't even played in a real game since 2012? Gibson carried his team to a state championship, so he's already proven that he's a winner. We really have no idea what we're getting with Quentin Dormady.

Btw, I'm not down on Dormday at all. I'm just pointing out that he's a far less proven passer than Torrance Gibson. I'm not lingering in his thread badmouthing his potential like some people.

CBJ and the UT coaches accepted QD's commitment to play QB for Tennessee. As a fan, I really don't need to see anymore than that to know what we are getting. UT's coaches are taking commitments from those kids who they feel will help get UT back to the upper level of the SEC. They took Dormady as a QB. It's enough for me.

 

[butchna]

They think that he can because Johnny Football did it...

He redshirted and studied with George Whitfield...he learned not to retreat so far...TG could learn that as well...I just don't get that same drive from him...as a hungry QB prospect, he should be pushing for QB reps at camps...he should be making sure he gets an audience with John Gruden...instead of showing up late (I don't buy the transportation issues...he somehow managed to hitch a ride to the Opening) These kind of things make me hope we pass on him...hopefully he doesn't keep that fifth star because it seems to put blinders on his worshippers.

 

[cncchris33]

He redshirted and studied with George Whitfield...he learned not to retreat so far...TG could learn that as well...I just don't get that same drive from him...as a hungry QB prospect, he should be pushing for QB reps at camps...he should be making sure he gets an audience with John Gruden...instead of showing up late (I don't buy the transportation issues...he somehow managed to hitch a ride to the Opening) These kind of things make me hope we pass on him...hopefully he doesn't keep that fifth star because it seems to put blinders on his worshippers.

Nike pays all expenses to and from the Opening.