'15 JUCO CB Justin Martin (UT Signee 2/4/15)

So the question I have is, how does this affect Mueller's stats since Martin has not been released?

I think his stat is that he has some sort of equipment boy type job and that he has no problems breaking confidence on issues that should stay in house. Classic behavior from non athletic twigs.
 
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Bob Mueller said:
Was given a release today, but I'm not 100% sure he is done for sure. All happened very quickly.


Bob Mueller said:
Martin is at the late night workout and is getting a chance to work on his 40 yard dash



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So the question I have is, how does this affect Mueller's stats since Martin has not been released?

To be fair, many people are reporting that a release was signed...It's just that it was just to show who the boss is in a sense. Mueller just jumped the gun on this one.
 
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Probably more like Butch told them your now all under curfew and won't be out partying. Justin trying to buck up against rules and it got heated. I can promise he wasn't arguing that he was going to smoke dope anyway.
 
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Probably more like Butch told them your now all under curfew and won't be out partying. Justin trying to buck up against rules and it got heated. I can promise he wasn't arguing that he was going to smoke dope anyway.

Yeah I bet it was something along these lines
 
To be fair, many people are reporting that a release was signed...It's just that it was just to show who the boss is in a sense. Mueller just jumped the gun on this one.

Yeah, Mueller should have kept his fingers off the phone or computer keyboard. 10 years ago we would have never heard a word about this.
 
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Yeah, Mueller should have kept his fingers off the phone or computer keyboard. 10 years ago we would have never heard a word about this.

Agreed. I much prefer not to hear about this stuff. Seems very silly for us to hear about it / know about it.
 
Originally Posted by DeerPark12:
"Whether it's today or in a month or in two months, he's not going to make it here long-term.

Edit: For the people that go back and pull out old posts to show where I'm wrong, you can clip 'n save this one. If I'm wrong here, I'll happily eat my words on his senior day, but that's my opinion."

People inside the program would have said the same thing about Pig and Marlin Lane when they were 19. Let's see how he reacts from being put in his place. He could lash out or realize it's go time and become one of future team leaders.

I for one am going to be rooting for him, I love guys that initially don't understand how a great team works then make a change for the better!

Go Vols and Justin Martin!
 
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To your first sentence; nope, not true at all.

Big difference between private citizens who choose to partake, and scholarship athletes at public universities.

The first group is not monitored the way the second group is.

If you're a scholarship athlete at an institution where it is strictly forbidden, and you speak out against the rule / get caught breaking the rule, you are Effing Stupid.

The first bit was just sarcasm. Your post made it seem unheard of that a weed smoker would stand up and argue that he should be allowed to smoke weed. Citizens or athletes, doesn't matter, most weed smokers are going to argue it.
 
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People inside the program would have said the same thing about Pig and Marlin Lane when they were 19. Let's see how he reacts from being put in his place. He could lash out or realize it's go time and become one of future team leaders.

I for one am going to be rooting for him, I love guys that initially don't understand how a great team works then make a change for the better!

Go Vols and Justin Martin!

Nice points here.
 
To be fair, many people are reporting that a release was signed...It's just that it was just to show who the boss is in a sense. Mueller just jumped the gun on this one.

Yep and just one more reason to like Butch... That's how its got to be handled! Great job!
 
People inside the program would have said the same thing about Pig and Marlin Lane when they were 19. Let's see how he reacts from being put in his place. He could lash out or realize it's go time and become one of future team leaders.

I for one am going to be rooting for him, I love guys that initially don't understand how a great team works then make a change for the better!

Go Vols and Justin Martin!

It's called living and learning, and every single person goes through this throughout their entire lifetime! We all make mistakes...what makes us who we are is do we learn from them and correct them, or be foolish and never learn from them? It's up to the individual, and the comment that Deerpark made is asinine and way too premature, IMHO.
 
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It's called living and learning, and every single person goes through this throughout their entire lifetime! We all make mistakes...what makes us who we are is do we learn from them and correct them, or be foolish and never learn from them? It's up to the individual, and the comment that Deerpark made is asinine and way too premature, IMHO.

DP has a statistically high chance of being right...but like Bob Mueller last night, he got in too big a hurry. :gone:
 
DP has a statistically high chance of being right...but like Bob Mueller last night, he got in too big a hurry. :gone:

He was almost trying to state his opinion as a fact. His comment was unnecessary...you can't predict how an individual responds to discipline, especially when this is 1st time the discipline has been applied to Martin, as far as we know.
 
He was almost trying to state his opinion as a fact. His comment was unnecessary...you can't predict how an individual responds to discipline, especially when this is 1st time the discipline has been applied to Martin, as far as we know.

Why does it matter? He is giving his opinion just like everyone else on the board does. He just happens to be closer to the program that the average poster.
 
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Why does it matter? He is giving his opinion just like everyone else on the board does. He just happens to be closer to the program that the average poster.

Which seems to help when getting uniform previews...taking an incident and making a food challenge bet off of it seemed a little haughty. He can be full of it AND close to the program. :wink2:
 
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Which seems to help when getting uniform previews...taking an incident and making a food challenge bet off of it seemed a little haughty. He can be full of it AND close to the program. :wink2:

That's cool, it didn't seem haughty to me. Seemed like he gave his opinion based on what he knows.
 
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