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Sherlock Volmes said:
You seriously don't think we have a shot at winning the East in two years time? Ok your shtick has become far too obvious. Your in every thread trying to antagonize and it's your right but just saying your annoying as all get out.
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We have a winner folks!!!!!!!
 
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Leb is becoming troll like. Beginning to wonder if he is even a UT fan with some of his comments of late. Close to ignore time and it would allow me to spend less time on the site. Oh noes...........is Leb actually Freak?
 
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Sherlock Volmes said:
You seriously don't think we have a shot at winning the East in two years time? Ok your shtick has become far too obvious. Your in every thread trying to antagonize and it's your right but just saying your annoying as all get out.
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Do I have any confidence at all in the current OL coach? No. Is it reasonable to think that after he gets canned next year that it will take a little time for the OL to gel with the new OL coach? IMO yeah. UT winning the SEC in the next 2 years? I doubt it. JMO
 
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JacketVol said:
Leb is becoming troll like. Beginning to wonder if he is even a UT fan with some of his comments of late. Close to ignore time and it would allow me to spend less time on the site. Oh noes...........is Leb actually Freak?
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I'm not trolling. Just giving an opinion on various situations. IMO we are over signing positions and I feel it will lead to a lot of transfers and wasted time coaching guys who won't be around long enough to benefit from signing them. Have you paid attention to news that came out yesterday? When 1st year kids are bailing before the end of their 1st season, it's not a good thing. Yes, I know we have the fans who say "great another spot to sign an unknown". IMO that will not result in the huge change in the wins that others are so sure are just around the corner.

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LebanonVolunteer said:
Do I have any confidence at all in the current OL coach? No. Is it reasonable to think that after he gets canned next year that it will take a little time for the OL to gel with the new OL coach? IMO yeah. UT winning the SEC in the next 2 years? I doubt it. JMO
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Do I like asking myself questions and then answering them? Why yes, yes I do.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I'm not trolling. Just giving an opinion on various situations. IMO we are over signing positions and I feel it will lead to a lot of transfers and wasted time coaching guys who won't be around long enough to benefit from signing them. Have you paid attention to news that came out yesterday? When 1st year kids are bailing before the end of their 1st season, it's not a good thing. Yes, I know we have the fans who say "great another spot to sign an unknown". IMO that will not result in the huge change in the wins that others are so sure are just around the corner.

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In fairness, that has to be expected when you sign 32 kids. Too many guys at the same grade level.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I'm not trolling. Just giving an opinion on various situations. IMO we are over signing positions and I feel it will lead to a lot of transfers and wasted time coaching guys who won't be around long enough to benefit from signing them. Have you paid attention to news that came out yesterday? When 1st year kids are bailing before the end of their 1st season, it's not a good thing. Yes, I know we have the fans who say "great another spot to sign an unknown". IMO that will not result in the huge change in the wins that others are so sure are just around the corner.

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What positions are we oversigning?
 
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TrésDay;10949801 said:
What positions are we oversigning?
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Just stands to reason IMO that if you need say 6 RBs on a roster, taking 3 in a class will do nothing but lead to transfers. Why? Because when you take 2-3 more next year, and 2-3 more the next year, and so on, that is the definition of over signing a position. IMO you should never sign more than 2 RBs in a class. Over a 4 year period you then have 6-8 RBs and that is fine in SEC play. Why take 3-4 in a class then as 2-3 of them transfer you are back having to over sign again? You have done nothing but wasted time coaching kids who are playing elsewhere because you got greedy. RBs don't need 2-3 years to develop. WRs usually don't need 2-3 years to develop. After a RS year at most they are good to go. If you want to over sign somewhere, how about the OL? How about the position with the biggest issues on the field? How about the position that takes the longest time to develop? Naw, lets just stack up the RBs and QBs so we can watch them transfer out.

Brilliant IMO.
 
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Stand in our coaches shoes for a moment. Why do you think they are doing what you say you think they are doing with your so very limited info and insight into the real situation?
 
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bignewt said:
Stand in our coaches shoes for a moment. Why do you think they are doing what you say you think they are doing with your so very limited info and insight into the real situation?
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I look at it and call it like I see it. I have the same limited info and insight as everyone else giving opinions. Mine may not line up with what some would rather see, but does not make them wrong.

I've said for a long while I'd take 2 RBs in 2015. Now if Scott is going to transfer out and Paulk is not reinstated, I'd not be shocked if they took a 3rd. Of course I'd still expect to see at least 1 RB not named Kamara transfer before the 2016 season. Multiple kids are just not going to sit and wait. Guys like Love, Reid, and Bussey who have a lot of options won't sit for long.

JMO
 
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Making your boisterous claims on such limited info and insight is wrong especially when you start to slander our staff for doing their jobs. Just my opinion.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Just stands to reason IMO that if you need say 6 RBs on a roster, taking 3 in a class will do nothing but lead to transfers. Why? Because when you take 2-3 more next year, and 2-3 more the next year, and so on, that is the definition of over signing a position. IMO you should never sign more than 2 RBs in a class. Over a 4 year period you then have 6-8 RBs and that is fine in SEC play. Why take 3-4 in a class then as 2-3 of them transfer you are back having to over sign again? You have done nothing but wasted time coaching kids who are playing elsewhere because you got greedy. RBs don't need 2-3 years to develop. WRs usually don't need 2-3 years to develop. After a RS year at most they are good to go. If you want to over sign somewhere, how about the OL? How about the position with the biggest issues on the field? How about the position that takes the longest time to develop? Naw, lets just stack up the RBs and QBs so we can watch them transfer out.

Brilliant IMO.
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Except that's not what is happening. Paulk is gone related to off the field stuff. Scott if he leaves is for completely different stuff instead of competition at RB.

QB who knows at this point BUT if Peterman is looking to be gone then maybe there is more need to take a third QB. I still don't know that the staff trusts Dobbs at this point. We're likely looking at a true freshman backing up Dobbs at this point regardless and the other two redshirting IF we even end up taking three.

I do think Jones should be up front with all parties BUT I do also think that all parties must understand that situations change and evolve over the course of time. If Dormady or Jennings aren't comfortable with competeting with current or future players on the roster at QB then I understand BUT likely they aren't going to find an easier path to the starting position than anywhere else. I do agree that likely we do have some future attrition at QB if we take all three BUT I would rather get the guy in this class.
 
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QB and RB we have only ?'s outside 1 starter at each position. You do the math but that is what is driving recent events.
 
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DD4ME said:
QB and RB we have only ?'s outside 1 starter at each position. You do the math but that is what is driving recent events.
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At QB, how many "starters" do you think you're supposed to have?

How about at RB?

My thought was the starter is the (1) who starts.

JMO
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
At QB, how many "starters" do you think you're supposed to have?

How about at RB?

My thought was the starter is the (1) who starts.

JMO
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You're being dense, I hope intentionally. Who is your best case backup at QB? If you say someone like Peterman then how many games do you honestly expect to win with him at QB? At RB you need two good backs to be successful in the SEC, we have almost no depth at that position if there is a single injury much less if we run into injuries like UGA has run into the last two years. We simply do no have great depth at RB.
 
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DaddyChad said:
You're being dense, I hope intentionally. Who is your best case backup at QB? If you say someone like Peterman then how many games do you honestly expect to win with him at QB? At RB you need two good backs to be successful in the SEC, we have almost no depth at that position if there is a single injury much less if we run into injuries like UGA has run into the last two years. We simply do no have great depth at RB.
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Dobbs is the starter.

Peterman would be #2 headed into camp.

Now IF Dormady or Jennings can take that spot from Peterman, then they would obviously be #2. TFR to play at times due to injury/emergency. Dobbs stays healthy and Peterman gets the garbage reps, both TFR can RS. You add Kendall in 2016 and possibly another IF Peterman decides to play his last year elsewhere.

That's 4 QBs for 2015 that CBJ apparently feels can play in the SEC. If they end up needing to play #5, my guess would be the season would be a disaster anyway. Why worry about it?

At RB I'm even less worried. Hurd and Kamara will carry the load in 2015. Behind those guys? IMO serviceable is just fine. Pickett, RDAIV, Reid/or his replacement. I'm just not worried. Take 2 RBs in 2016 and we're fine.

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LebanonVolunteer said:
Dobbs is the starter.

Peterman would be #2 headed into camp.

Now IF Dormady or Jennings can take that spot from Peterman, then they would obviously be #2. TFR to play at times due to injury/emergency. Dobbs stays healthy and Peterman gets the garbage reps, both TFR can RS. You add Kendall in 2016 and possibly another IF Peterman decides to play his last year elsewhere.

That's 4 QBs for 2015 that CBJ apparently feels can play in the SEC. If they end up needing to play #5, my guess would be the season would be a disaster anyway. Why worry about it?

JMO
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Except that Peterman supposedly isn't going to be here next year.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Except that Peterman supposedly isn't going to be here next year.
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I've not seen that confirmed yet. Even if it is, Dobbs would still be the starter and I'd have the better of Dormady/Jennings after camp as my #2. The other would ideally RS then I'd add Kendall and another QB in 2016.

I would not EVER waste my time taking 3 HS QBs in a class. I would not spend my time coaching 3 HS guys in 1 class knowing full well at least 1 of them and possibly 2 never see year 2 or 3.

As I have said in other threads, I WOULD consider a Juco with 2 to play 2 IF Peterman were leaving.

JMO
 
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