'15 NC RB Johnny Frasier

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bowlinggreenvol said:
All for example and not my opinion, but if Frazier/Love/Bussey or whoever gives us a better shot of winning than Reid then the coaches have to take him. You say coaches who win can get away with it, well we'll never "win" if we're not taking the better of two players. You also run a risk of not taking a player lower on the board early, that they feel slow played later and you still miss on them. It appears that Butch takes guys that he THINKS can play at this level without giving up on the guys that he KNOWS can play at this level so he's not caught shorthanded on NSD.
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I just don't care for the mindset of accepting recruits a coach knows he is still trying to recruit over in the very same recruiting class. If the kid is a borderline take and you're trying to get a "better player", then just wait. If you're afraid of losing a kid you "slow played" then maybe you should have taken him to start with and called the spot filled. IMO the issue becomes when you're trying to have it both ways and then really don't care which recruits you hang out to dry in the process.

"He's got 12 days to restart the whole recruiting process and find another school before NSD, he'll be fine". What a joke.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I've always had no issue with a recruit losing his spot IF he opens things up with taking visits after committing. If a recruit is sticking to his commitment, only visiting UT, and doing things right on/off the field, his commitment should have his spot secured. Not sure why that is hard to understand. If a coach is not going to honor his word in accepting a commitment and it sticking, just don't accept it to begin with. If as a coach you think you may accept a commitment from another player down the road who would in turn force you to drop a commitment, obviously you should not have taken the 1st kid when you did.

I tell myself CBJ is learning how to handle these things in the SEC. Last year we had several de-commits already by Nov. 1st. This year we have had 1 in Woods(100% his fault with the issues). I know people keep pointing to 6-7 guys who may end up Vols as the coaches would take them no matter what which in turn would shove some current commitments out, but the clock is ticking and I'm not seeing much happening at all at his point compared to last years class.
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You are aware that Reid is flirting with Wisconsin correct?
 
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wtorange said:
You are aware that Reid is flirting with Wisconsin correct?
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I am aware he said he may consider visiting WI. If he does, just like any other recruit who takes trips after committing IMO his spot is then up for grabs.

Until he sets that trip up and actually takes it, it's just talk.
 
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griddie said:
WTF is yalls problem with me. i will take my opinions elsewhere and you can take full handle ob nc info then.
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Is this already decided? Maybe we can tempt you with a nice ....shiny...DOLLAR BILL!!! :wink2:
 
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Princeton played again tonight; it was senior day and they beat Lakewood 50-0. Despite the score, I was right in that the starters stayed in this one well into the third quarter. Lakewood played hard but just couldn't move the ball on Princeton's defense. It was 6-0 after one, 22-0 at the half after the scored with about 45 seconds left, and they finally got it to 42-0 after three. It was actually a highlight-reel night for a Princeton junior who will be at least an FCS-type recruit next year, Adrian Whack. He was dominant on the defensive side of the ball and also returned a kickoff 61 yards for a touchdown as the up man, eluding several defenders who had him trapped after he caught the ball and then outrunning everybody. Which isn't a big deal until you consider that Adrian is 6'1", 240.

There were rumors floating around that Johnny will de-commit from FSU in the very near future, but no one knows if he will announce a new school or if he's just going to publicly reopen things, or if the rumors were true at all. There are, as rumored, family considerations at work that have made Johnny consider schools closer to home than FSU. I discussed this with someone close to him tonight. Both NC State and Duke are very much in play, as is UT, obviously. I was told a little more, but it was off the record, and I don't feel at liberty to disclose it.

I think something is going on, because he didn't play very well (by his usual standards) tonight. I haven't seen the stats yet, but I don't think he ran for even 100 yards. Part of that was because Princeton was basically toying with Lakewood and kept lining Johnny up at slot receiver, but he wasn't himself when he did carry the ball. He looked like someone who is dealing with a distraction. Update: the official stats actually have him for 17-156. If he gained 156 yards in that game, it's the quietest 156 he's ever had in his life.

Anyway, they play arch-rival Rosewood next Friday night to conclude the regular season. I think we might know more about Johnny before then.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I am aware he said he may consider visiting WI. If he does, just like any other recruit who takes trips after committing IMO his spot is then up for grabs.

Until he sets that trip up and actually takes it, it's just talk.
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So Williams spot is up for grabs after the SoCal visit?

What about Cherry when he sees Texas?

We took Taylor knowing he had an OV to VaTech set up.
 
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Serenadium51 said:
So Williams spot is up for grabs after the SoCal visit?

What about Cherry when he sees Texas?

We took Taylor knowing he had an OV to VaTech set up.
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Sssshhh... we don't need any of that truth and common sense around here. Of course, that poster will try to make some inane comment in a feeble attempt to spin the situation in his favor.
 
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If Reid gets dropped, it won't be because of a visit. It'll be because the staff thinks they can upgrade.

If there was a no visit policy in place, Dewayne Hendrix wouldn't be on our roster.
 
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Guys there is no coach in America that wouldn't want to upgrade in talent. In recruiting its a dog eat dog world. This statement pertains to both recruits and coaches. In the SEC i can recall when walking on campus with a 5* db where 2 winning SEC West schools blatantly said cut the chatter how much or what's it going to take to get you here. At the time both schools were loaded at db. Both coaches stated don't worry about numbers we'll make room for you. What yawl have to realize it's about winning and keeping the check coming in and anothing personal at all.
 
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de1conley said:
Guys there is no coach in America that wouldn't want to upgrade in talent. In recruiting its a dog eat dog world. This statement pertains to both recruits and coaches. In the SEC i can recall when walking on campus with a 5* db where 2 winning SEC West schools blatantly said cut the chatter how much or what's it going to take to get you here. At the time both schools were loaded at db. Both coaches stated don't worry about numbers we'll make room for you. What yawl have to realize it's about winning and keeping the check coming in and anothing personal at all.
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Lost me at "yawl"
 
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de1conley said:
Guys there is no coach in America that wouldn't want to upgrade in talent. In recruiting its a dog eat dog world. This statement pertains to both recruits and coaches. In the SEC i can recall when walking on campus with a 5* db where 2 winning SEC West schools blatantly said cut the chatter how much or what's it going to take to get you here. At the time both schools were loaded at db. Both coaches stated don't worry about numbers we'll make room for you. What yawl have to realize it's about winning and keeping the check coming in and anothing personal at all.
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Sorry man, tried holding my tongue for the past week while reading your posts. I'm just not buying what your selling. Many from the mid state area know this as well. Please stop.
 
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