15 TN QB Matt Williams

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I know it's apples and oranges with Williams being a pro style QB and Jauan Jennings being at Dual Threat QB, but which is better?
 
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volinSmyrna said:
Lebanon, I couldn't agree with you any more! The only thing I think differently is I think Ferg has a better than avg shot at starting, if not....Worley is our guy again. This is the reasoning I think taking a guy like Jauan Jennings is the best case scenario. It will give him time to develop the skills he is lacking.

Playing devil's advocate. If Worley ends up being our guy, doesn't that signal to the elite guys that Ferg and Dobbs probably aren't as good as we thought. This would give the staff an opening with those top guys to say they could come in and compete for the job right away.
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I think Worley looked like the best QB on the roster this year. That is why I see him starting next year. As far as Dobbs and Ferguson, I think it's on the coaches to develop them and have them ready to play SEC ball. If BOTH struggle, top QBs may question our coaches developing them and it could cause them to hesitate with choosing Tennessee. I would be fine with taking either Williams or Jennings as I think sooner we get a QB on board, the easier it is to fill a class. Other recruits like to know the QB is in place.
 
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TNrockytop4ever said:
I know it's apples and oranges with Williams being a pro style QB and Jauan Jennings being at Dual Threat QB, but which is better?
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Right now, Williams certainly appears to be a better QB. Jennings is a project. This was his first year playing QB. However, Jennings has a very high ceiling as a DT QB.
 
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therickbol said:
Right now, Williams certainly appears to be a better QB. Jennings is a project. This was his first year playing QB. However, Jennings has a very high ceiling as a DT QB.
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"One" of the reasons Williams is not at Blackman this year is that he saw the writing on the wall that he wouldn't be starting this year over Jauan. So he transferred somewhere where he knew he would start.

If they switched places this year, JJ would have had the same stats as Williams, but you could add about 1500 yards rushing as well. On the other hand, you could probably add a couple losses to Blackman and wouldn't have made the Semi's.

I HOPE we sign JJ!!! If we sign Williams, I HOPE we sign 2 QB's in '15.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I think Worley looked like the best QB on the roster this year. That is why I see him starting next year. As far as Dobbs and Ferguson, I think it's on the coaches to develop them and have them ready to play SEC ball. If BOTH struggle, top QBs may question our coaches developing them and it could cause them to hesitate with choosing Tennessee. I would be fine with taking either Williams or Jennings as I think sooner we get a QB on board, the easier it is to fill a class. Other recruits like to know the QB is in place.
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Can't argue with that logic. I don't think we pull the trigger this early on either of these QB's. If one of the top QB's wanted to, absolutely. I don't think either of those 2 QB's would "move the needle" on nationally top talent.
 
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TNrockytop4ever said:
I know it's apples and oranges with Williams being a pro style QB and Jauan Jennings being at Dual Threat QB, but which is better?
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Jennings is 10 million times better. Williams couldn't compete in district 7-AAA much less the SEC. Ever wonder why you don't see any highlights from his real jr year when played at Blackman? It's because there aren't any. I will be shocked if he signs with the Vols.
 
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volinSmyrna said:
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"One" of the reasons Williams is not at Blackman this year is that he saw the writing on the wall that he wouldn't be starting this year over Jauan. So he transferred somewhere where he knew he would start.

If they switched places this year, JJ would have had the same stats as Williams, but you could add about 1500 yards rushing as well. On the other hand, you could probably add a couple losses to Blackman and wouldn't have made the Semi's.

I HOPE we sign JJ!!! If we sign Williams, I HOPE we sign 2 QB's in '15.
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Ehhhh that first part isn't true. He had a run in with the coaches and then knew he wasn't gonna play no matter who the QB was. He had the job and then made some bad decisions that cost him the starting job. I've played with both and Jauan will be better. Matt plays teams that would struggle with Middle School teams.
 
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VOLS_FAN15 said:
Ehhhh that first part isn't true. He had a run in with the coaches and then knew he wasn't gonna play no matter who the QB was. He had the job and then made some bad decisions that cost him the starting job. I've played with both and Jauan will be better. Matt plays teams that would struggle with Middle School teams.
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That's why I said "one" of the reasons. I wouldn't call it a "run in" either....more like a difference of opinions (one of which was his role going forward). If he would have been better, he would still be here and Jauan would be a WR. As it stands, Blackman is in MUCH better shape now with Jauan at QB.
 
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volinSmyrna said:
That's why I said "one" of the reasons. I wouldn't call it a "run in" either....more like a difference of opinions (one of which was his role going forward). If he would have been better, he would still be here and Jauan would be a WR. As it stands, Blackman is in MUCH better shape now with Jauan at QB.
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True Jauan is still learning the QB position and the strides he made from spring to last week were humongous.
 
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volinSmyrna said:
If they switched places this year, JJ would have had the same stats as Williams, but you could add about 1500 yards rushing as well.
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I know you're high on Jennings and I share some of the concerns expressed here about Williams' lack of quality competition, but Jennings' completion rate this year (46.5%) is pretty poor for a HS QB, 1st year or not.
 
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VOLS_FAN15 said:
True Jauan is still learning the QB position and the strides he made from spring to last week were humongous.
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I'd hope. That's 14 games and a summer. I suppose you're on Blackman's team, if so congratulation on a great year. But, I wouldn't care for Jennings at QB. 3 Picks vs Maryville in the first half is unacceptable.
 
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volinSmyrna said:
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"One" of the reasons Williams is not at Blackman this year is that he saw the writing on the wall that he wouldn't be starting this year over Jauan. So he transferred somewhere where he knew he would start.

If they switched places this year, JJ would have had the same stats as Williams, but you could add about 1500 yards rushing as well. On the other hand, you could probably add a couple losses to Blackman and wouldn't have made the Semi's.

I HOPE we sign JJ!!! If we sign Williams, I HOPE we sign 2 QB's in '15.
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You seemed to be bringing good information to this thread. After this, it seems like you have a grudge against Williams or have a lovefest for Jennings. Not a very objective argument in this post. If you think Jennings could have thrown for the yardage that Williams did if they switched teams then your opinion on this matter from henceforth should be ignored. He very well might have run for 1,500 yards though if they switched teams. Shoot, maybe more. But I dont think you truely believe that. Seems you are not being objective. Jennings ability to throw the ball accurately and on time is not on par with Williams at this point. That is not really a debatable point. But Jennings has tremendous potential at the QB position.
 
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kamoshika said:
I know you're high on Jennings and I share some of the concerns expressed here about Williams' lack of quality competition, but Jennings' completion rate this year (46.5%) is pretty poor for a HS QB, 1st year or not.
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This is very sensible and accurate.
 
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RockyTop411 said:
I'd hope. That's 14 games and a summer. I suppose you're on Blackman's team, if so congratulation on a great year. But, I wouldn't care for Jennings at QB. 3 Picks vs Maryville in the first half is unacceptable.
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Yea, I am. Yea we had a great year, just came up a little short. We beat ourselves against Maryville. But yes broke a lot of school records! And knowing when to just throw it away and just live another down, or in his case just run for what he can is what he lacks from a QB standpoint. Has all the physical ability
 
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kamoshika said:
I know you're high on Jennings and I share some of the concerns expressed here about Williams' lack of quality competition, but Jennings' completion rate this year (46.5%) is pretty poor for a HS QB, 1st year or not.
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Agree, it's not very good. I couldn't say a number without seeing film, but there were a BUNCH of drops. Not enough to make up for that number but it would have helped. I have said all along JJ is not ready to play QB in the SEC right now. The good thing is he doesn't have to. We wouldn't need him till his redshirt Fresh or Soph year at the earliest. That's 3-4 more seasons worth of development.

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You seemed to be bringing good information to this thread. After this, it seems like you have a grudge against Williams or have a lovefest for Jennings. Not a very objective argument in this post. If you think Jennings could have thrown for the yardage that Williams did if they switched teams then your opinion on this matter from henceforth should be ignored. He very well might have run for 1,500 yards though if they switched teams. Shoot, maybe more. But I dont think you truely believe that. Seems you are not being objective. Jennings ability to throw the ball accurately and on time is not on par with Williams at this point. That is not really a debatable point. But Jennings has tremendous potential at the QB position.
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I don't have a grudge against him. If it came across that way, I'm sorry. I wish nothing but the best for him. I just don't want the Vols to sign him. I absolutely think JJ could have thrown for the same yardage that Williams had. If you don't think that, you haven't seen the competition he was throwing against. 95% of his stats came from fade balls to wide open receivers that were MUCH better athletes than anybody they faced. There was not a lot involved. He throws a pretty deep ball. That's part of the reason I've called him Tyler Bray 2.0. I just think there's a LOT more to playing the QB position. As far as accurate and on time compared to Jennings, go back and look at what Williams did at Blackman. As a starter he had a 40% completion rate and more picks than TD's before getting benched. So, yes, that point is very debatable. In my opinion, Williams will get an opportunity at the next level and I wish him well. I think he is more of a Western Ky, MAC, or lower level ACC QB.
 
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I believe Jennings is being recruited as an athlete right now. Not sure he projects at QB unless he really develops this off season
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
I've read different and rivals has him listed as an athlete. Just saying.
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Yes he is listed as an athlete, but schools are offering him as a QB. I understand some of them might just be gamesmanship, because I don't think he will entertain an offer if it isn't for QB.

QB Jauan Jennings leads Blaze attack

"Duke, Nebraska, New Mexico State, Ole Miss, Ohio State, Tennessee and Vanderbilt are all recruiting him as a quarterback. MTSU and Northwestern are recruiting him currently as an athlete."

A few more have offered since this article, but I can't remember right off the top of my head.
 
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I hope it works out for him, but I'm sure he will be throwing this summer in camps to solidify any offers at QB. Great prospect but too early to say IMO.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
I hope it works out for him, but I'm sure he will be throwing this summer in camps to solidify any offers at QB. Great prospect but too early to say IMO.
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Me too. Camp circuit and Senior Season will be huge for him. Will be a 4* athlete, but progression will determine his collegiate future at QB. Didn't mean for this thread to turn into Jennings part 2, but with them being former teammates and playing in the same county, comparisons were inevitable.
 
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