'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

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Burger said:
Watch Cespedes' throw from left field to home on the spot from Tuesday night also. That was the best throw I've ever seen.
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That was a great throw but horrible defense. Bo jackson used to make throws from the outfield that would leave you speechless
 
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Burger said:
Watch Cespedes' throw from left field to home on the spot from Tuesday night also. That was the best throw I've ever seen.
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I finally watched the video of it tonight. It was, indeed, a great throw, a deadly accurate one on the fly, but it had a bit of a "rainbow trajectory." To draw a ballistics analogy, it followed the trajectory of a .30-30 bullet, whereas throws by Roberto Clemente more nearly resembled the flight path of a .30-06 or 7 mm rifle bullet. Clemente had, in the opinion of most baseball historians, the best throwing arm of any outfielder in major league history. His combination of power, accuracy and quickness of release was unparalleled. For a great assessment of those who played with and against him, as well as knowledgeable observers from that period, see Roberto Clemente's 'Toolbox'.

Clemente still has, by far, the most assists of any rightfielder with 260; Aaron, somewhat surprisingly, is second with 186. Only 16 men in MLB history have as many as 100 assists from right field (Leaderboarding: Clemente with most right-field assists ever, by far - CBSSports.com). It was not uncommon for Clemente to throw behind and successfully pick off of first base runners who had singled to right but had the audacity of taking one step too many in rounding first.
 
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Burger said:
He can whip a baseball underhanded from deep left field all the way to short stop. That amazes me every time I see it. You always see something weird in an A's game.
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He's not human.

Jose Guillen's throw in '98 is probably the best throw I can remember. Didn't see it when it happened, but it was ridiculous.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
I finally watched the video of it tonight. It was, indeed, a great throw, a deadly accurate one on the fly, but it had a bit of a "rainbow trajectory." To draw a ballistics analogy, it followed the trajectory of a .30-30 bullet, whereas throws by Roberto Clemente more nearly resembled the flight path of a .30-06 or 7 mm rifle bullet. Clemente had, in the opinion of most baseball historians, the best throwing arm of any outfielder in major league history. His combination of power, accuracy and quickness of release was unparalleled. For a great assessment of those who played with and against him, as well as knowledgeable observers from that period, see Roberto Clemente's 'Toolbox'.
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I'll look up his throws when I get on a computer again. It's unfortunate that he passed early. He was a great player, but a greater ambassador for the game. He's always missed.
 
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LotteryPick said:
He's not human.

Jose Guillen's throw in '98 is probably the best throw I can remember. Didn't see it when it happened, but it was ridiculous.
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I got to see the Cespedes throw live. It went from WTF to OMFG! It's a luxury of having two of the best arms in baseball in your corner outfield. Josh Reddick has a better arm than Cespedes believe it or not.

As our discussion proves, baseball players are athletes.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
I finally watched the video of it tonight. It was, indeed, a great throw, a deadly accurate one on the fly, but it had a bit of a "rainbow trajectory." To draw a ballistics analogy, it followed the trajectory of a .30-30 bullet, whereas throws by Roberto Clemente more nearly resembled the flight path of a .30-06 or 7 mm rifle bullet. Clemente had, in the opinion of most baseball historians, the best throwing arm of any outfielder in major league history. His combination of power, accuracy and quickness of release was unparalleled. For a great assessment of those who played with and against him, as well as knowledgeable observers from that period, see Roberto Clemente's 'Toolbox'.
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The trajectory allowed the ball to drop in right over the runner. Not saying it was done on purpose because of this but if the ball had been thrown more on a rope it would have hit the runner in the head or back.
 
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Burger said:
I'll look up his throws when I get on a computer again. It's unfortunate that he passed early. He was a great player, but a greater ambassador for the game. He's always missed.
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This link (Leaderboarding: Clemente with most right-field assists ever, by far - CBSSports.com) provides a video clip of one of his throws in the '71 World Series, where his whirl-and-fire throw to the plate was so strong that the runner from third simply did not challenge it. There are also a few video clips of his throws in this ESPN Sports Century program (Sports Century - Roberto Clemente - YouTube).

You are quite right about Clemente, the man. Unlike so many contemporary athletes, he was a role model whose behavior never disappointed his fans. He didn't possess the power of Aaron or Mays, but those Hall of Famers didn't play the majority of their careers in a park as massive as Forbes Field either. Roberto was, in my opinion, the most talented all-around baseball player I ever saw. In terms of his social impact, the "Great One" was positively revered by his fellow Puerto Ricans.
 
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If we want to steer the conversation back in a direction more relevant to the thread topic, who, in your opinion, had the better throwing arm, Tony Robinson or Heath Shuler?
 
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RockVol said:
You know who has a great arm? Andrelton "Simba" Simmons!
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I know someone else who has one really strong arm...

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Tux said:
There are so many small athletic details that baseball players at higher levels incorporate into their game to be successful that the average fan does not see or understand.

Getting your lead and jump on a steal attempt requires timing and acceleration. Playing the outfield requires getting a jump in the ball, which requires timing, speed, and quickness.You have to round off your approach to get the ball on balls hit to the outfield to position yourself to make a throw an then put in your crow hop on the throw. Outfielders just don't stand around picking their nuts.

Infielders are constantly in motion and have to accelerate to get the ball, have to charge the ball and use their arms to make plays at crazy angles. Baseball is a very athletic sport. Some here want o act like baseball players sit on their butts and make constant left turns in their car for 200 laps.
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I went to one of those pitching cages many years ago (25-30 ?) and finally turned it up to what was supposed to be 90 mph. I was usually swinging at the ball when it hit the net behind me. I think I finally fouled it off a time or two and just gave up. I could never hit a 85 mph cut fastball, no way. Baseball is a tough game at the major league level. JMO
 
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OldVol49vfl said:
I went to one of those pitching cages many years ago (25-30 ?) and finally turned it up to what was supposed to be 90 mph. I was usually swinging at the ball when it hit the net behind me. I think I finally fouled it off a time or two and just gave up. I could never hit a 85 mph cut fastball, no way. Baseball is a tough game at the major league level. JMO
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Do we have a baseball forum? I guess not enough interest.:lolabove:
 
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ACvol3 said:
Yeah, baseball sucks.. Anyways, about dormady..
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Yeah baseball does suck. I would rather slowly file off my toenails to the skin than watch baseball on tv. I don't mind it in person though. I enjoy going to Nashville Sounds games. I just don't care to follow it when I'm not there. Is my opinion a strange one? I'm not sure. Ramble on. Go Vols.
 
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Q: The year before Butch Jones came to Tennessee, he used a dual-threat and a pro-style quarterback at Cincinnati. He's shown that he can adapt to different styles, so was that appealing?

A: "I feel like I can fit in quite a few different systems, so I knew I would be fine in their system. It's a pro-style passing game, but you can put a dual-threat quarterback in there. I'm labeled as a pro-style quarterback and a pocket passer, but that doesn't mean that's all I can do."
Dormady eager to join 'growing' Tennessee Vols | Times Free Press

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kamoshika said:
Q: The year before Butch Jones came to Tennessee, he used a dual-threat and a pro-style quarterback at Cincinnati. He's shown that he can adapt to different styles, so was that appealing?

A: "I feel like I can fit in quite a few different systems, so I knew I would be fine in their system. It's a pro-style passing game, but you can put a dual-threat quarterback in there. I'm labeled as a pro-style quarterback and a pocket passer, but that doesn't mean that's all I can do."
Dormady eager to join 'growing' Tennessee Vols | Times Free Press

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Good build, for his size.

Take the high road, fellas
 
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Did you know that it is entirely possible to have more than 1 really good QB on your team? So you know all 3 QBs under the Volnation microscope could very well be great QBs in future. It is annoying that people can't compare without bashing and pretending the kids suck.

One is a 5 star Athlete, the other a top 100 athlete and other a top 5 pro style QB. All 3 are incredibly talented to the point that we only dreamed of
 
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