'15 VA ATH Jaason Lewis

[NochNoch]

He doesn't have nearly the same speed or burst either. But I agree, he looks stiff.

On field, game speed, I don't think there's a huge difference but yes, it's the stiffness that would hurt him most as a RB at the next level.

 

[jbr82]

Anybody who says he is to tall is the same dumb people who said the same thing about jalen Hurd!! And they were wrong about that!!!!! This guy is a beast we need him!!!! Hurd and kamara the first 3 quarters and Lewis to lean on them in the 4th quarter that's how you win games!!! Bama does it all the time it's time for us to return the favor!!!! GO VOLS

I like ur fire and ur right. Need a couple of big backs and couple of smaller backs.

 

[Nationdom]

I like ur fire and ur right. Need a couple of big backs and couple of smaller backs.

We don't "need" big backs, sure they are nice to have when you need the tough yards but they are not needed. What we do need is great backs in general, 4 and 5* stars who can dominate a game and change the landscape for eternity, break records, win championships. You don't need a bruiser or big back to be successful, we need a stable of stars.

 

[LotteryPick]

We don't "need" big backs, sure they are nice to have when you need the tough yards but they are not needed. What we do need is great backs in general, 4 and 5* stars who can dominate a game and change the landscape for eternity, break records, win championships. You don't need a bruiser or big back to be successful, we need a stable of stars.

So fitting.

 

[RetardedElf]

We don't "need" big backs, sure they are nice to have when you need the tough yards but they are not needed. What we do need is great backs in general, 4 and 5* stars who can dominate a game and change the landscape for eternity, break records, win championships. You don't need a bruiser or big back to be successful, we need a stable of stars.

Trying a bit too hard with that one. Just relax and let the troll flow through you

 

[rocktopper16]

So fitting.

I laughed.

 

[sanddune50]

We don't "need" big backs, sure they are nice to have when you need the tough yards but they are not needed. What we do need is great backs in general, 4 and 5* stars who can dominate a game and change the landscape for eternity, break records, win championships. You don't need a bruiser or big back to be successful, we need a stable of stars.

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[KBVol]

Grown. Ass. Man.

Such a strange recruitment. Hadn't even thought about this kid in months. Starting to think it'd be great to fit him in too.

 

[TriedAndTrueVOL]

On field, game speed, I don't think there's a huge difference but yes, it's the stiffness that would hurt him most as a RB at the next level.

Agreed.

 

[Diceman]

Gotta agree with eazy on this one. Would definitely love to get Lewis, but I don't think he's close to Hurd's level as a RB. Hurd had a very good year running behind one of the worst lines in the country against the best competition in the country. He's an absolute stud. Besides being quicker, faster, more fluid, and proving he can shake and bulldoze defenders at the college level, Hurd does all the little things well, too. His blocking is the best I've ever seen by a freshman back. This is all after missing his senior year of HS. I think Hurd improved throughout the season, and he's going to be downright scary with another offseason in the weight room, and with an improved line next year.

 

[cncchris33]

Chubb doesn't have elite speed that's the difference between him and Gurley.

That being said, I don't see a huge parallel between Chubb and Lewis. More Henry from Alabama.

Chubb ran a 10.69 100m as a HS senior. He has elite speed at 229 lbs.

 

[VolsByNature]

This is THE remaining want. Could play either WR or RB and would love him in orange

 

[itouchedthe_bUTch]

Vol

 

[cncchris33]

Not saying Chubb isn't a great RB, but Lewis has the same type of speed/size combination that Gurley had. Don't confuse that as saying he's as talented as Gurley is/was. Just the size and speed element he gives an offense. What's more is Lewis' experience as a WR could allow Bajakian to use him in the passing game a good deal.

Imagine having to defend North, Croom, Malone and now another BIG target (6'3" 250lbs), in Lewis...in the Red zone. 4.5/40 speed is booking for a guy that size.

Lewis isn't anywhere close to Gurley in terms of speed. Gurley is a true 4.4 guy (perhaps even a hair under). Lewis is a 4.5+ guy on his best day. Chubb is a 4.45 guy, and much more similar to Gurley than Lewis.

 

[The Breakerboy]

This kid reminds me of Blunt. Former Oregon RB in terms of his size and speed combo. Also has the same style too.

 

[gobraves101035]

This kid reminds me of Blunt. Former Oregon RB in terms of his size and speed combo. Also has the same style too.

*Blount. And hopefully he doesn't have the same off the field issues as him lol

 

[VOLorNuttin]

I get what youre saying. I'm not talking about weight, I'm talking about height.

Yes, Hurd is a stud RB at 6'3" and there's been others at 6'2" or above (Peterson, Jim Brown, Eric Dickerson, Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Henry, Eddie George) but my point was that they are not very common. Out of the top 10 leaders in rushing yards this year, only one is above 6 feet tall.

True, but this guy isn't all that common. It's pretty rare to have that much size at RB coming out of HS....period. Then to have 4.5 speed and talent to run the ball on top of that? We all know tall RB's are not the rule, but rather the exception. Lewis is such an exception. That is our point.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Lewis isn't anywhere close to Gurley in terms of speed. Gurley is a true 4.4 guy (perhaps even a hair under). Lewis is a 4.5+ guy on his best day. Chubb is a 4.45 guy, and much more similar to Gurley than Lewis.

I doubt Gurley runs a 4.4 flat with 2 knee surgeries, and the difference between a 4.45 and a 4.5 guy is largely negligible. Hurd ran a sub 4.4 time in HS, but just by watching games this year, he never did display that kind of speed. Dobbs was listed on one or two sites as running 4.7 or 4.8, and most everyone here kept calling him slow. Some of us pointed out that he was listed as running 4.6 on at least one site (Hudl profile). He has shown on the field thus far, that the 4.6 time is probably about right. He's pretty fast, as you could see him outrun a lot of SC and KY defenders earlier this season.

So, I put a lot less stock in the 40 times I see on recruiting sites. They tend to be all over the place.

 

[GLDunlap]

I doubt Gurley runs a 4.4 flat with 2 knee surgeries, and the difference between a 4.45 and a 4.5 guy is largely negligible. Hurd ran a sub 4.4 time in HS, but just by watching games this year, he never did display that kind of speed. Dobbs was listed on one or two sites as running 4.7 or 4.8, and most everyone here kept calling him slow. Some of us pointed out that he was listed as running 4.6 on at least one site (Hudl profile). He has shown on the field thus far, that the 4.6 time is probably about right. He's pretty fast, as you could see him outrun a lot of SC and KY defenders earlier this season.

So, I put a lot less stock in the 40 times I see on recruiting sites. They tend to be all over the place.

Has Gurley had two knee surgeries? Think just one but I could be wrong. Either way no way to tell how it will affect his speed atp.

 

[cncchris33]

I doubt Gurley runs a 4.4 flat with 2 knee surgeries, and the difference between a 4.45 and a 4.5 guy is largely negligible. Hurd ran a sub 4.4 time in HS, but just by watching games this year, he never did display that kind of speed. Dobbs was listed on one or two sites as running 4.7 or 4.8, and most everyone here kept calling him slow. Some of us pointed out that he was listed as running 4.6 on at least one site (Hudl profile). He has shown on the field thus far, that the 4.6 time is probably about right. He's pretty fast, as you could see him outrun a lot of SC and KY defenders earlier this season.

So, I put a lot less stock in the 40 times I see on recruiting sites. They tend to be all over the place.

Gurley hasn't had two knee surgeries that I'm aware of, and he ran a sub 4.4 40 and a 10.53 100m as a HS SR. Since he can't run on his knee as of yet following his ACL surgery, it remains to be seen what he can or can't do. ACL injuries aren't the horrific career killer they were 20 years ago, and many come back unfazed (Adrian Peterson & Jamaal Charles for example). What we know right now, is that the last time anyone saw him playing football, he was a 4.4 flat or faster.

As for Lewis, as I said, he is in the 4.5s on his best day, and is most often recognized in the low 4.7s. I can't even find a 100m time on him, which is probably pretty damning evidence in terms of the speed comparison between the two players.

We can question the accuracy of 40 times on recruiting sites all day, but the same theory of inflated times would hold true for both players.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Gurley hasn't had two knee surgeries that I'm aware of, and he ran a sub 4.4 40 and a 10.53 100m as a HS SR. Since he can't run on his knee as of yet following his ACL surgery, it remains to be seen what he can or can't do. ACL injuries aren't the horrific career killer they were 20 years ago, and many come back unfazed (Adrian Peterson & Jamaal Charles for example). What we know right now, is that the last time anyone saw him playing football, he was a 4.4 flat or faster.

As for Lewis, as I said, he is in the 4.5s on his best day, and is most often recognized in the low 4.7s. I can't even find a 100m time on him, which is probably pretty damning evidence in terms of the speed comparison between the two players.

We can question the accuracy of 40 times on recruiting sites all day, but the same theory of inflated times would hold true for both players.

He tore his ACL in 2012 and this year.

 

[butchna]

*Blount. And hopefully he doesn't have the same off the field issues as him lol

Blount's main issue was ON the field...albeit AFTER the game.

 

[cncchris33]

He tore his ACL in 2012 and this year.

Gonna need a link on that because I have never heard of Gurley tearing his ACL as a freshman at UGA when he was dominating the SEC. He played in every game that season and rushed for 1385 yds and 17 TDs.

 

[eazyTD]

Gonna need a link on that because I have never heard of Gurley tearing hus ACL as a freshman at UGA when he was dominating the SEC. He played in every game that season and rushed for 1385 yds and 17 TDs.

I don't know where he's getting his info. Gurley has only tore his ACL once and it was this year

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Gurley hasn't had two knee surgeries that I'm aware of, and he ran a sub 4.4 40 and a 10.53 100m as a HS SR. Since he can't run on his knee as of yet following his ACL surgery, it remains to be seen what he can or can't do. ACL injuries aren't the horrific career killer they were 20 years ago, and many come back unfazed (Adrian Peterson & Jamaal Charles for example). What we know right now, is that the last time anyone saw him playing football, he was a 4.4 flat or faster.

As for Lewis, as I said, he is in the 4.5s on his best day, and is most often recognized in the low 4.7s. I can't even find a 100m time on him, which is probably pretty damning evidence in terms of the speed comparison between the two players.

We can question the accuracy of 40 times on recruiting sites all day, but the same theory of inflated times would hold true for both players.

No, it wouldn't. I just gave you a CLEAR example of where the listed time on some sites were way too slow. If you run a 4.8, as one had Dobbs listed, you ain't outrunning any defensive players except the DT's.

He was/is clearly faster than that. Plus, he mentioned in one interview that he was timed at 4.6 in HS, and his HUDL profile had him listed as that. But that's not going to stop critics like yourself from chosing the slowest one to use to bolster your argument.

Kendall Wright was thought to be a speedster at WR, coming from Baylor and RGIII's favorite target. He surprised everyone with a high 4.6 time at the combine. Both runs.

His draft stock fell considerably, but he was able to refine his TECHNIQUE by the time his Pro Day came around. He was able to improve upon it and get into the high 4.4's. So, based on technique for running the 40, one's time can fluctuate from one day to the next.

Bama's Heisman RB, Ingram had a similar situation happen with him. Ran a really slow 40 at the combine, and turned most teams off. But he got it back down to a respectable level at his Pro Day.

So, again...knowing these reported times are all over the place, you keep using them to bolster Gurley's estimated speed, but use Lewis' to bash him and try to make him sound slow.