'15 VA OT Austin Clark

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Ron Swanson said:
Weak link? I disagree. Thomas, Brown, Blair and Raulerson is a damn good haul, IMO. And the staff is still trying to land a top tier OT. Honestly, I don't see any position group being a weak link in this class.
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I guess I should say weakest link. That and QB (since we didn't land one). Brown and Raulerson are not as highly regarded by others as they are on VN.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Weak link? I disagree. Thomas, Brown, Blair and Raulerson is a damn good haul, IMO. And the staff is still trying to land a top tier OT. Honestly, I don't see any position group being a weak link in this class.
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I agree with Ron. The only weak link you can point to IMO
is QB since ideally you take 1 per year.

This OL class is good. My guess is what OCI means is that
this class may lack immediate playing time other than Blair.

The way I look at it when you put this years with next years likely pull (Richmond /Clark) Very Impressive 2 yr haul.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
I get what you're saying but that remains to be seen.
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This is true. Personally I think Coleman is a high 4 start talent at guard or center.

Brown needs work but could turn into something great.

Blair is a stud.

Raulerson will need time to develop. By his junior year I see him being a very good guard though.

Really good group
 
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OCIVol said:
I guess I should say weakest link. That and QB (since we didn't land one). Brown and Raulerson are not as highly regarded by others as they are on VN.
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Really? Raulerson might not have a 5 star offer list but he has plenty of really good options. UT, Auburn, Miss st, Mizzou, Nebraska, Ok st, WVU, etc...seems to be highly regarded by some pretty good programs.

We all know Brown's offer list is huge but many weren't committable back when he committed to UT. But at one point those schools offered and thought he was a really good OL and I'm betting he could still commit to many of those same schools if he wanted to.

Not to get all argumentative but I think maybe it's just you who doesn't see those two as really good gets haha. :peace2:
 
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abbyvol said:
I agree with Ron. The only weak link you can point to IMO
is QB since ideally you take 1 per year.

This OL class is good. My guess is what OCI means is that
this class may lack immediate playing time other than Blair.

The way I look at it when you put this years with next years likely pull (Richmond /Clark) Very Impressive 2 yr haul.
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More of a comparison to the rest of the class. I would argue that the weakest groups are QB, OL, and DT.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Really? Raulerson might not have a 5 star offer list but he has plenty of really good options. UT, Auburn, Miss st, Mizzou, Nebraska, Ok st, WVU, etc...seems to be highly regarded by some pretty good programs.

We all know Brown's offer list is huge but many weren't committable back when he committed to UT. But at one point those schools offered and thought he was a really good OL and I'm betting he could still commit to many of those same schools if he wanted to.

Not to get all argumentative but I think maybe it's just you who doesn't see those two as really good gets haha. :peace2:
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I am not saying I think Brown and/or Raulerson are not good, just not elite IMO. Let's say 8 out of 10--not 10 out of 10.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Really? Raulerson might not have a 5 star offer list but he has plenty of really good options. UT, Auburn, Miss st, Mizzou, Nebraska, Ok st, WVU, etc...seems to be highly regarded by some pretty good programs.

We all know Brown's offer list is huge but many weren't committable back when he committed to UT. But at one point those schools offered and thought he was a really good OL and I'm betting he could still commit to many of those same schools if he wanted to.

Not to get all argumentative but I think maybe it's just you who doesn't see those two as really good gets haha. :peace2:
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I'd also point out that it appears Orlando has made serious strides in the dropping bad weight dept. IF he were willing to listen to other schools, alot of those offers some felt were not committable, may in fact now be. JMO
 
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I agree with OCI about the OL in the 2014 class

Richmond, Clark, Jones, and Stewart would be an awesome haul for 2015
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Not elite and weak link are really far from each other.
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weak link and weakest link are also far from each other

when you compare it to the DB's we are getting, TE, LB group, WR, RB, K - I think it is fair to say QB and OL are the weakest in this recruiting class
 
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How does our OL haul compare to the rest of the SEC? That's all I care about.
 
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Dust10 said:
How does our OL haul compare to the rest of the SEC? That's all I care about.
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well Blair is a day 1 starter so the importance of that pickup can't be underestimated - I like the other 2 guys as developmental guys but think it likely takes them awhile to compete for a starting spot

it is certainly behind bama's

I think behind A&M's, LSU (slight)

comparable to UGA, ole miss

prob ahead of rest of SEC - let me know if i missed someone

several of those schools seem to have room to add several more prospects though and so us being ahead or comparable could change since we can upgrade but not really add any more bodies with our number crunch
 
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SCvol333 said:
weak link and weakest link are also far from each other

when you compare it to the DB's we are getting, TE, LB group, WR, RB, K - I think it is fair to say QB and OL are the weakest in this recruiting class
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I guess if you want to find a weak link in our class you could argue it's the OL. I'm just not a big fan of using "weak link" or "weakest link" for a group of highly recruited players such as Brown, Raulerson, Blair and Thomas. Those are all very highly recruited OL in the '14 class, weak link isn't what I would describe them no matter the comparison. JMO
 
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OCIVol said:
I guess I should say weakest link. That and QB (since we didn't land one). Brown and Raulerson are not as highly regarded by others as they are on VN.
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I'd actually agree with this. This class is strong across the board but if I had to pick one position (outside of QB obviously) where it's not elite I'd say Oline as well, especially with the need there. I think they've landed some solid guys for sure, especially Coleman Thomas, but next year they need a monster haul on the Oline. Richmond, Stewart, Clark and Jones would be amazing.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I'd actually agree with this. This class is strong across the board but if I had to pick one position (outside of QB obviously) where it's not elite I'd say Oline as well, especially with the need there. I think they've landed some solid guys for sure, especially Coleman Thomas, but next year they need a monster haul on the Oline. Richmond, Stewart, Clark and Jones would be amazing.
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Montrell agrees with me. Boom. I win Ronny boy. :)
 
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OCIVol said:
Montrell agrees with me. Boom. I win Ronny boy. :)
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lol

I mean if you want to rank position groups of this class, go ahead. I just don't think the #2 class in the country has "weak links" or "weakest links". Maybe it's just semantics but those kids aren't weak in any way, stars or offer lists. They're not a bunch of 2 stars where UT beat out Buffalo and JMU for their commitments.

But you call them weak if you want, I'll call them badass VFL's. :salute:
 
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Ron Swanson said:
lol

I mean if you want to rank position groups of this class, go ahead. I just don't think the #2 class in the country has "weak links" or "weakest links". Maybe it's just semantics but those kids aren't weak in any way, stars or offer lists. They're not a bunch of 2 stars where UT beat out Buffalo and JMU for their commitments.

But you call them weak if you want, I'll call them badass VFL's. :salute:
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It's semantics. Bruin has infiltrated the ranks.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
lol

I mean if you want to rank position groups of this class, go ahead. I just don't think the #2 class in the country has "weak links" or "weakest links". Maybe it's just semantics but those kids aren't weak in any way, stars or offer lists. They're not a bunch of 2 stars where UT beat out Buffalo and JMU for their commitments.

But you call them weak if you want, I'll call them badass VFL's. :salute:
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That is definitely true. I wouldn't call the OLine recruiting "weak" for this class. You're right there aren't any absolute reaches or shots in the dark like became the norm with Dooley. But I wouldn't put the Oline haul on the same elite level as some of the other positions for this class. Blair and Thomas are great pickups and I think the other two are certainly solid gets as well. They have just such a need on the Oline considering what Dooley left behind for the post '13 roster that it's going to be probably the biggest overall need in the '15 class along with QB.
 
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Raulerson and brown are a far cry from the Khalid hendersons of the world. We are nitpicking now
 
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StoVol said:
Raulerson and brown are a far cry from the Khalid hendersons of the world. We are nitpicking now
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No doubt. The list of reaches in just 3 years under Dooley is unbelievably scary. Who was the kid they recruited last year who was a high school DT that they wanted as a LB? He committed but was then dropped...LOL It's no wonder the team speed on defense was so awful this year.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
That is definitely true. I wouldn't call the OLine recruiting "weak" for this class. You're right there aren't any absolute reaches or shots in the dark like became the norm with Dooley. But I wouldn't put the Oline haul on the same elite level as some of the other positions for this class. Blair and Thomas are great pickups and I think the other two are certainly solid gets as well. They have just such a need on the Oline considering what Dooley left behind for the post '13 roster that it's going to be probably the biggest overall need in the '15 class along with QB.
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Elite OL and QB are the biggest needs in '15 class, no doubt about it.

Stewart, Jones, Clark and Richmond would go a long way in that area. Hopefully they can land Stidham, Nunez or another top tier QB and the sooner the better. And I think they will.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
No doubt. The list of reaches in just 3 years under Dooley is unbelievably scary. Who was the kid they recruited last year who was a high school DT that they wanted as a LB? He committed but was then dropped...LOL It's no wonder the team speed on defense was so awful this year.
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Team speed is what's killed us. Some fast sob's en route to Knox now tho!
 
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