'16 JUCO CB Desmond Henderson (UT commit 9/17/15)

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I know we had talked about it in this thread so I'll post some of it here.

Matt Miller (BR) came out with his top 100 today for the draft.

Sutton came in at #39 overall. #3 corner behind VHIII and Ramsey. White from LSU was #4.

I respect Matt's opinions on the draft so thought I'd pass it along.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
I know we had talked about it in this thread so I'll post some of it here.

Matt Miller (BR) came out with his top 100 today for the draft.

Sutton came in at #39 overall. #3 corner behind VHIII and Ramsey. White from LSU was #4.

I respect Matt's opinions on the draft so thought I'd pass it along.
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Mack Alexander and Ramsey are my top two guys coming out this year. Sutton either has an injury or something but the past two games he hasn't been himself.

Ramsey looks very good outside at CB and his versatility makes him a high value pick.

Alexander follows No.1 WRs around and hounds them. He took Fuller out of the game for Notre Dame this past weekend. He's done it to Oklahoma's Shepard and outside of the big pushoff TD he was erasing Green for FSU. He's got star written all over him at the next level.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Mack Alexander and Ramsey are my top two guys coming out this year. Sutton either has an injury or something but the past two games he hasn't been himself.

Ramsey looks very good outside at CB and his versatility makes him a high value pick.

Alexander follows No.1 WRs around and hounds them. He took Fuller out of the game for Notre Dame this past weekend. He's done it to Oklahoma's Shepard and outside of the big pushoff TD he was erasing Green for FSU. He's got star written all over him at the next level.
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Is Alexander draft eligible? I thought he was a Soph for some reason.

I think Ramsey will be a stud
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Dude--I'm a little late to the convo--but BB is right....Chubb was extremely AVERAGE until the game was all over--and he got 83/146 yds rushing (57%) when it DIDN'T MATTER AT ALL....It was 31 or 38-3!!!

Fournette is in a class all his own......

I'd love to see Hurd run in an offensive system like LSU's!!!! Dobbs would look like a Heisman trophy candidate in LSU's system.....and we'd probably be 5-0!
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I said this a few weeks ago and somebody got mad. Cam Cameron looks like a genius compared to the things he has adapted their offense to. You're strengthens are at rb learn some I-formation zone schemes and stop trying to force the dumb **** we run. Jet sweeps and single back formations with a 243 lb power back with a little finesse. Cam took Metz, Landry, ODB, etc and made is a chunk it down the field fest with Hill, etc at rb feeding off of them. Here ughhhhhh it stinks and the passing game is anemic if not absent. The difference between the 2 are LSU has a great OL and a coach who can coach em up. We don't and our OL recruiting has been pretty average too.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I really don't want to drum up this topic again, but I don't care what the score was when he ripped off the 83-yd run. Bama still had the majority of their 1st string defense in the game. Ragland, Reed, Foster, Jones, Jackson, Smith, Humphrey, and Fitzpatrick were all in on that play, and Chubb ran past all of them nearly untouched.

And I don't mind that he "only" had 19 carries for 63 yards otherwise. He was playing against Alabama, not South Alabama. They are supposed to be good, and even top-flight RBs are prone to an average day vs good defenses. All it takes is one play to turn an average day into a really nice one. Does it matter that the run came at the end of the 3rd quarter instead of the end of the 1st? Not when the defense is still playing the starters IMO. Alabama was fired up, and didn't fear UGA throwing the ball on them.

BB's stance is that Chubb is "slightly above average" I believe he said, which is manure IMO, and he has yet to present a sound argument that supports his stance outside of Saturday's game minus one run. And, he seems to want to disparage Chubb as an effort to pump up Hurd, as if one's ability definitively says something about the other. Can't they both just be really good running backs, completely independent of how you feel about the other?

Just as I told him though, feel free to disagree.
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you're 100% correct Chris who gives a damn when he got the run? It was still in regulation and the 1st team was present and playing. Guys Chubb is elite a notch down from Lenny, but he's still elite to call him close to average is a joke. Most ppl I talk to say Lenny, Dalvin Cook, Chubb, Sony, then Hurd and Perrine(they state OU has screwed this kid with the new offense). Btw I love Hurd and I'm friends from college with his dad Jerome who played WR when I was at Tenn St.
 
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de1conley said:
you're 100% correct Chris who gives a damn when he got the run? It was still in regulation and the 1st team was present and playing. Guys Chubb is elite a notch down from Lenny, but he's still elite to call him close to average is a joke. Most ppl I talk to say Lenny, Dalvin Cook, Chubb, Sony, then Hurd and Perrine(they state OU has screwed this kid with the new offense). Btw I love Hurd and I'm friends from college with his dad Jerome who played WR when I was at Tenn St.
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Agree on Perine. OU is much better off with Mixon playing in their new offense. Not a knock on Perine, because he is a really good RB, but that offense doesn't fit his skills unfortunately, and it highlights Mixon's (particularly his receiving ability).
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Martin needs to start ASAP. No rotation either, he and Abernathy look completely different than the older guys physically. You can easily see the difference athletically. Coaches are just stubborn though. It's like Tuttle is our best DT but doesn't start.
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I'd also start Stephen Griffin and TK at safety. Randolph has been TERRIBLE.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Agree on Perine. OU is much better off with Mixon playing in their new offense. Not a knock on Perine, because he is a really good RB, but that offense doesn't fit his skills unfortunately, and it highlights Mixon's (particularly his receiving ability).
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Mixon is just a better RB than stiff ole Perrine.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Mixon is just a better RB than stiff ole Perrine.
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That may turn out to be true. I don't think we've seen enough of Mixon to definitively say that, but the current offensive system certainly plays to Mixon's strengths and abilities more than Perine's. Perine is much better suited for UGA, FSU, or USC's offense.
 
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cncchris33 said:
That may turn out to be true. I don't think we've seen enough of Mixon to definitively say that, but the current offensive system certainly plays to Mixon's strengths and abilities more than Perine's. Perine is much better suited for UGA, FSU, or USC's offense.
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I never bought into the Perine hype. He was extremely unimpressive versus Clemson. I like to see backs produce in tough games. Or how they run when they face a tough defense that's hitting them in the mouth. I hate soft players in general but RBs that start to lay down in tough games bother me.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
The defensive calls are horrible. IMO

We ran more press man last year. Why back off with more talent and experience on the back end?

This Henderson kid could come in and play but I don't know why they're going after these fast CBs to play Cover 3 defense or soft man all game.
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Maybe the lack of a pass rush this year is the reason
 
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The Breakerboy said:
f*** Nick Chubb....... Time to put that Riddell on him this week too. Chump got an 84 yard run when the score was 38-3. He'll lay down if we clap him. Need the LBs to set the tone.
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How good is this guy? Despite the win, our secondary is a huge concern moving forward. Receivers continue to be wide open. Number 12 and #13 have struggled thus far.
 
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lilesrt said:
How good is this guy? Despite the win, our secondary is a huge concern moving forward. Receivers continue to be wide open. Number 12 and #13 have struggled thus far.
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By struggled you mean sucked horribly right?

Although, I really do appreciate Foreman's effort. Moseley just looks and plays like he doesn't give a damn at times.
 
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oryankees said:
By struggled you mean sucked horribly right?

Although, I really do appreciate Foreman's effort. Moseley just looks and plays like he doesn't give a damn at times.
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Yes Foreman is at least hit and miss. Moseley only plays the run good. Which isn't really good at CB. 😁
 
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Why are TK & Justin Martin only in the game when we need stops? They need to be in the game from the 1st snap... Add MO to the mix next year, along with Berry and Gaulden and it will shape up a lot better
 
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triad280 said:
Why are TK & Justin Martin only in the game when we need stops? They need to be in the game from the 1st snap... Add MO to the mix next year, along with Berry and Gaulden and it will shape up a lot better
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The coaches personnel decisions still confound me. TK should still be starting. Shy and Kahlil should be starting. And Justin Martin should take over for Moseley.

This idea of only playing them when the game is on the line makes no sense.
 
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DJ Henderson
@Dee_jay129: Man I hope to god coach Martinez does not take this job 😔🙏
 
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