'16 NC OG Landon Dickerson

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Nashvegas31 said:
I wonder if Trey Smith being in next class is part of the lack of urgency here. Smith is a top 5 priority in next class and a stud
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Smith has to be a cornerstone of the next class- arguably #1 on the big board. He is an all around tremendous prospect. Idk how much he likes UT but it would go a long way towards sealing the state imo.

I thought the national analysts are projecting Dickerson as a guard. I would put Smith at LT all day long. Those 2 next to each other would be nasty!
 
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Just stop already. When the #2 OT in the nation wants to come to UT, you take him. There is no way CBJ has this guy on hold. If he wants to be a Vol he will be a Vol.
 
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Wickman said:
We have bigger needs. It was in the VQ update you chose to ignore
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There is a difference between VQ conjecture and a hard fact of a top rated OT wanting to be a Vol. CBJ has several 3 star recruits he can gray or blue shirt to secure Dickerson. If Dickerson isn't a Vol in the end that will be his decision and not CBJs
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
There is a difference between VQ conjecture and a hard fact of a top rated OT wanting to be a Vol. CBJ has several 3 star recruits he can gray or blue shirt to secure Dickerson. If Dickerson isn't a Vol in the end that will be his decision and not CBJs
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No one in this recruiting class that is currently committed can be blueshirted... But maybe, if you wish for it really really hard before you go to bed tonight, it can come true!

Get your facts straight before you get all preachy (no offense Nick 👍)
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
There is a difference between VQ conjecture and a hard fact of a top rated OT wanting to be a Vol. CBJ has several 3 star recruits he can gray or blue shirt to secure Dickerson. If Dickerson isn't a Vol in the end that will be his decision and not CBJs
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A. Everything Eazy has stated about Dickerson has been correct. He said the staff sees him as a guard (not a far fetched statement). Where do we have a ton of depth? Offensive guard. The 3 we have committed are all viewed as OT.

B. Who gives a sh** what rivals rates him. Maybe we don't rate him as highly as others, which would explain why we never in-homed with him even though we were in his top 2.

C. If recruits were getting a grey/blue shirt offer, it would have came earlier (I.e. Hart).

D. Like VQ said, DL is much more important right now than OL in a smaller class with 3 already committed.

It isn't an ignorant thought to think if we get Kongbo or Brown, we passed on Dickerson. People get entirely too caught up in star ratings. Dickerson is definitely a great player, but Bama is slow playing him too right now. Hmmm. How could they do that to the #2 RANKED OT?!??!? Maybe it's because they're not as high on him either.
 
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Wickman said:
A. Everything Eazy has stated about Dickerson has been correct. He said the staff sees him as a guard (not a far fetched statement). Where do we have a ton of depth? Offensive guard. The 3 we have committed are all viewed as OT.

B. Who gives a sh** what rivals rates him. Maybe we don't rate him as highly as others, which would explain why we never in-homed with him even though we were in his top 2.

C. If recruits were getting a grey/blue shirt offer, it would have came earlier (I.e. Hart).

D. Like VQ said, DL is much more important right now than OL in a smaller class with 3 already committed.

It isn't an ignorant thought to think if we get Kongbo or Brown, we passed on Dickerson. People get entirely too caught up in star ratings. Dickerson is definitely a great player, but Bama is slow playing him too right now. Hmmm. How could they do that to the #2 RANKED OT?!??!? Maybe it's because they're not as high on him either.
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Good reply Wick but I still believe with all of our OL woes, Dickerson is a take. We were ranked 36th in total defense and didn't rank in the top 50 in total offense mainly due to OL production and pass efficiency which I place on Dobbs accuracy
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
Good reply Wick but I still believe with all of our OL woes, Dickerson is a take. We were ranked 36th in total defense and didn't rank in the top 50 in total offense mainly due to OL production and pass efficiency which I place on Dobbs accuracy
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I think more of that falls on play calling than anything personally. I'd love to know the % of pass to rush plays.
 
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I believe our coaches are better evaluators of talent than recruiting service journalists. I just do. One gets paid to win games and has to be right more than wrong. Journalists are not paid to be right, just to be read.

Coaches also have the benefit of knowing intimately the type of player they want and the status of the current players. We have some guys that we haven't seen on the field that may fill that need. We don't know. The coaches do.

Coaches also have to think more strategically than just getting one player in one season.

Given all that, I think CBJ is in a better position to make that decision right now than anyone in the nation. He tends to make good decisions. Given his history and all the resources he has at his disposal, I think I'll defer to him and assume decisions I don't understand are due to my lack of information, not CBJ's lack of info.

But that's me.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
Good reply Wick but I still believe with all of our OL woes, Dickerson is a take. We were ranked 36th in total defense and didn't rank in the top 50 in total offense mainly due to OL production and pass efficiency which I place on Dobbs accuracy
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This may be true, but do you see Dickerson having a big impact as a freshman or sophomore with so many other promising interior linemen ahead of him?

I really like Dickerson as a prospect, but I see Warrior, Byrd, Kongbo, and Brown as all being able to have more of an impact in their first two years than Dickerson. Nobody is questioning Dickerson's upside at OG, just whether he'll bring more than he other top guys we have a chance with.

If all five want on board, I think Dickerson is #5 on that list of impact guys.
 
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Wickman said:
I think more of that falls on play calling than anything personally. I'd love to know the % of pass to rush plays.
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The pass offense was a train wreck on multiple levels... QB reads and execution, pass pro, reciever routes and execution/fighting for the ball... It was all bad. Individual plays had good execution in some facets only to have a dropped pass, or a whiff in protection, or a bad pass. It never was in sync at all.

Too bad we don't have someone tasked with actually coordinating the passing game...
 
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Falcons02 said:
The pass offense was a train wreck on multiple levels... QB reads and execution, pass pro, reciever routes and execution/fighting for the ball... It was all bad. Individual plays had good execution in some facets only to have a dropped pass, or a whiff in protection, or a bad pass. It never was in sync at all.

Too bad we don't have someone tasked with actually coordinating the passing game...
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I thought the protections was decent. I can't say I've taken the time to form an opinion on the rest, but something was off.
 
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Let's be honest here - LD was offered early and did not accept. He is the one that accepted the risk of there being no interest or a spot open for his commitment. Had he accepted earlier he would be a Vol. There would have been 2 OT's and G projected with him potentially being a RT. However, the need was clearly for 3 OT's from Day One of the recruiting cycle by simply looking at the roster. Most likely, but things can be fluid in recruiting, it is time to move on.
 
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