'16 TN ATH Darel Middleton (Tennessee signee)

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Benchwarmer said:
I know you have warned us about him before. I see three possibilities here.

1. Headfootballcoach has accurate information on Middleton, and he is warning Volnation not to get to emotionally invested in a guy that UT may later have to divest themselves from.

2. Headfootballcoach unknowingly has false information that he is passing along that he heard from someone else.

3. Headfootball coach has some personal reason not to like Middleton.

The good thing is that we have two years to observe Middleton and see if he's a keeper or if we need to throw him back. I believe the coaches will follow his progress and make a good decision.
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Here ya go...
 
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Headfootballcoach said:
Darel has been indefinitely suspended by his head coach, since Monday. His recruiting coach at UT is aware of this. High school coach has told UT that Darel is a distraction to the football team, disruptive to practice and very disrespectful to his coaches. A meeting is supposed to be held soon to determine his future with the team, Powell that is.
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Prepare to be tar and feathered for reporting facts. Just saying...
 
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Still want (no homo). A big athletic TE. I'd rather have a guy that needs to be taught respect rather than a druggie or physical abuser something
 
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Headfootballcoach said:
Darel has been indefinitely suspended by his head coach, since Monday. His recruiting coach at UT is aware of this. High school coach has told UT that Darel is a distraction to the football team, disruptive to practice and very disrespectful to his coaches. A meeting is supposed to be held soon to determine his future with the team, Powell that is.
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If this is true than the coach should be ashamed of himself.
 
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dschult2 said:
And why is that?
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That coach is not beholden to the UT staff. His responsibility is to do everything in his power to get his players to the next level.

The UT staff obviously is in no position to act as any sort of disciplinarian, so this should have been completely internal. If he has to kick him off the team, kick him off the team, but until that point he needs to do everything in his power to make him the most attractive prospect possible.
 
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Madkins8 said:
If this is true than the coach should be ashamed of himself.
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Funny how you avoided pointing a finger at the person that truly caused all this.


Madkins8 said:
That coach is not beholden to the UT staff. His responsibility is to do everything in his power to get his players to the next level.
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Why do you think he talked to the UT coaches? If something doesn't change he will never play at UT.
 
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I would imagine CBJ wants the truth when it comes to evals/concerns with any recruit they are looking at. If the kid is nothing but problems, I have no issue with the coach telling the truth. IMO it may help us to avoid issues in the future. If a HS coach did nothing but praise a player who was nothing but problems, then he should be ashamed of himself. JMO
 
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Vol Karma said:
Funny how you avoided pointing a finger at the person that truly caused all this.
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Maybe if we got him on a visit to Tennessee and got him all liquored up/got him out to the party scene, he would calm down a little bit. That seems to be the cure all for HS football recruits and is common practice. :)
 
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Vol Karma said:
Funny how you avoided pointing a finger at the person that truly caused all this.

That isn't really necessary. Everyone knows that Middleton is having issues. That is irrelevant to the fact that the coach is on some sort of powertrip.


Why do you think he talked to the UT coaches? If something doesn't change he will never play at UT.
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Something change like him growing up like every other kid on the plant. This kid is probably 15 years old. Sounds like he needs to work under a better coach to mature properly anyway.
 
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Madkins8 said:
Something change like him growing up like every other kid on the plant. This kid is probably 15 years old. Sounds like he needs to work under a better coach to mature properly anyway.
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I disagree. If this kid really has a desire to play on the next level he has to get himself under control. I think the h.s. coach knows and see his potential and is trying to cut the attitude off early by contacting UT. Leaving and going to another school takes the problem to the other school.

Sounds like he has got too big for his britches to me.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Kid sounds like Da'Rick jr.
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This is probably sarcasm or hyperbole (or at least I hope it is), but the kid is about to be a sophmore in high school so lets not label him as a problem child just yet. He may end up being an attitude combo of Darick, TO, and Chad Johnson, but lets let him get his driver's license first, assuming he doesn't already have it. :hi:
 
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Madkins8 said:
That coach is not beholden to the UT staff. His responsibility is to do everything in his power to get his players to the next level.

The UT staff obviously is in no position to act as any sort of disciplinarian, so this should have been completely internal. If he has to kick him off the team, kick him off the team, but until that point he needs to do everything in his power to make him the most attractive prospect possible.
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Even if it means being dishonest/disingenuous with a collegiate program that is willing to invest thousands of dollars in his future?

Sorry, but I disagree. You can both, go to bat for the kid, and give an honest assessment. The kid's bad behavior and decisions shouldn't hamstring the coach into lying to protect him. That goes against everything a coach/mentor should stand for. The coach shouldn't be malicious and extremely dramatic as retaliation for poor behavior, but he shouldn't have to lie to protect a player who has done nothing to endear himself to his coaches.

What message does that send?
 
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itsme said:
I disagree. If this kid really has a desire to play on the next level he has to get himself under control. I think the h.s. coach knows and see his potential and is trying to cut the attitude off early by contacting UT. Leaving and going to another school takes the problem to the other school.

Sounds like he has got too big for his britches to me.
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This would make sense if it wasn't for the fact that UT has no legitimate stance to discipline from.

All this coach is doing to making things worse. I have known several elite HS coaches that would find this disgraceful.
 
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Madkins8 said:
If this is true than the coach should be ashamed of himself.
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Yeah, why would we want to hold players accountable any way? I am not a fan of the new coach at Powell but if he is holding Middleton accountable then I will change my opinion. Middleton has the physical talent when he wants to play but that is only when he wants to play. As a UT fan I appreciate him letting UT know about this kid's attitude.
 
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Madkins8 said:
That coach is not beholden to the UT staff. His responsibility is to do everything in his power to get his players to the next level.

The UT staff obviously is in no position to act as any sort of disciplinarian, so this should have been completely internal. If he has to kick him off the team, kick him off the team, but until that point he needs to do everything in his power to make him the most attractive prospect possible.
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Sounds like you are apparently talking about the UT coach who the high school coach contacted, even though the passage you highlighted was talking about the high school coach. Either way, the coaches have nothing to be ashamed of. It is the player who is acting disrespectfully, allegedly. This is common among high school athletes, at least it was when I was in high school. He will either grow up and succeed, or continue an immature path and not succeed, up to the player to choose.
 
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Madkins8 said:
This would make sense if it wasn't for the fact that UT has no legitimate stance to discipline from.

All this coach is doing to making things worse. I have known several elite HS coaches that would find this disgraceful.
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So, TN coach gives a call to the head coach, "hey, how's our boy doing?"

Personally, I would find anything besides the truth to be unethical
 
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I have known many High School coaches through the years, both elite and/or just your average high school coach. I can honestly say, I haven't known one that I ever got the impression would not give an honest assessment to a college program asking about one of their players. Especially if the young man has committed to that school.

High School Coaches should do everything in their power to help get these young men into a college football program. Everything but lie or withholding information about attitude. Tell it like it is and let the school recruiting the young man decide for themselves whether or not he is a take.
 
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