'16 TN WR Nate Johnson

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#326
nicksjuzunk said:
Naw... I'm not even gonna let this slide...

Dobbs may lack as a passer right now. Every poster except for one will meet you there, but my man has straight willed us to victory in more than one occasion. He doesn't throw many interceptions, which is huge, and is a 3rd down conversion nightmare for defenses. You can't take away his rushing when discussing him as a QB. He is a QB, and that is part of his game
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Then explain all the fumbles, just because he hasn't thrown many interceptions doesn't mean he hasn't turned the ball over. He leads the team in fumbles.
 
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engineerVOL said:
Just curious do you think someone else should be starting?
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I think he is the best quarterback we have so no i think dobbs should start. However I do think Dormady isn't very far off from being an SEC caliber quarterback, Dormady has an arm and can run if needed.
 
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gobraves101035 said:
I think he is the best quarterback we have so no i think dobbs should start. However I do think Dormady isn't very far off from being an SEC caliber quarterback, Dormady has an arm and can run if needed.
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Jones too. Dormady probably has a slight edge over Jones but that is starting to change as apparently Jones has looked really good in practice lately. I think Jones is our most versatile QB and will eventually win the job lest Guarantano comes in and dominates.
 
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gobraves101035 said:
Do yall people realize that 85% of dobbs passes are screen passes and 2 yard curl routes? Dobbs is the most highly overrated quarterback that i think we have ever had.
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He is asked to complete the passes based on the call that is sent in... You can question the philosophy of the passing attack in general. As a whole, we do take a lot of shot downfield. This is less to do with Dobbs and more about the plays that are called
 
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Biopsyman said:
He is asked to complete the passes based on the call that is sent in... You can question the philosophy of the passing attack in general. As a whole, we do take a lot of shot downfield. This is less to do with Dobbs and more about the plays that are called
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But you also have to consider that debord is going to be calling plays that he thinks dobbs can complete. If he doesn't think that dobbs can complete 10-15 yard passes consistently he isn't going to call anything but short passes, so i wouldn't necessarily blame it on the calling of plays.
 
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Our fan base, punching a gift horse in the mouth...since ever...

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gobraves101035 said:
Do yall people realize that 85% of dobbs passes are screen passes and 2 yard curl routes? Dobbs is the most highly overrated quarterback that i think we have ever had.
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I mean, yeah, they call a lot of screens and curl routes but it isn't 85%. Not close.
 
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#337
Interesting.

When I pull up SEC passing stats, Dobs is right in the middle at 7 on most stats. 6th on a couple of them. I've never understood the whole "but he's only throwing screen passes" argument. You throw what works. The screens work. Any pass you throw, you expect/want your WR's to pick up yds after the catch. We are 7th in passing yds. Couple that with our running game and we are doing what works.

Flip and turn sh** however you feel you need to, in order to make yourself feel better about your argument that Dobbs is over rated, but it simply isn't true.

Because he doesn't lead the SEC in passing means absolutely nothing. 12 other SEC QB's also do not lead. It is not necessary to be the leading passer to do well in the SEC either.
 
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BaldBiker said:
Interesting.

When I pull up SEC passing stats, Dobs is right in the middle at 7 on most stats. 6th on a couple of them. I've never understood the whole "but he's only throwing screen passes" argument. You throw what works. The screens work. Any pass you throw, you expect/want your WR's to pick up yds after the catch. We are 7th in passing yds. Couple that with our running game and we are doing what works.

Flip and turn sh** however you feel you need to, in order to make yourself feel better about your argument that Dobbs is over rated, but it simply isn't true.

Because he doesn't lead the SEC in passing means absolutely nothing. 12 other SEC QB's also do not lead. It is not necessary to be the leading passer to do well in the SEC either.
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People are using the screen argument in response to others using his completion percentage to show that he is an accurate passer
 
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To add to my previous post. Dobbs is also the leading rushing QB in the SEC. Hell, he's the 14th leading rusher period in the SEC. He and Kamara (13th leading rusher) have rushed for more yds this season than two teams leading rushers.

Hurd is 4th in rushing.
 
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Vols2DaWall said:
People are using the screen argument in response to others using his completion percentage to show that he is an accurate passer
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I would say they might be correct.......if we played a pro style offense....where most of our passes were meant to go downfield.....and he was still missing them.

We however do not run a pro style offense and he is not expected to throw that many down field. Because he isn't expected to throw but maybe a small hand full down field each game, it is always going to be a little bit of a coin flip on accuracy, because he will not have gotten into any kind of rhythm for them.
 
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gobraves101035 said:
But you also have to consider that debord is going to be calling plays that he thinks dobbs can complete. If he doesn't think that dobbs can complete 10-15 yard passes consistently he isn't going to call anything but short passes, so i wouldn't necessarily blame it on the calling of plays.
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Dude he was without Croom, North, and Howard all year. Who is the dude to trust outside of Smith and Pearson who aren't true downfield threats???? Let me know since you are dogging Dobbs. Smh I wish some of you could watch Worley garbage azz at QB again....
 
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BaldBiker said:
Interesting.

When I pull up SEC passing stats, Dobs is right in the middle at 7 on most stats. 6th on a couple of them. I've never understood the whole "but he's only throwing screen passes" argument. You throw what works. The screens work. Any pass you throw, you expect/want your WR's to pick up yds after the catch. We are 7th in passing yds. Couple that with our running game and we are doing what works.

Flip and turn sh** however you feel you need to, in order to make yourself feel better about your argument that Dobbs is over rated, but it simply isn't true.

Because he doesn't lead the SEC in passing means absolutely nothing. 12 other SEC QB's also do not lead. It is not necessary to be the leading passer to do well in the SEC either.
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Georgia led the conference in passing defense but Dobbs carved them up for 300+. Guess he screen passed them to death.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Georgia led the conference in passing defense but Dobbs carved them up for 300+. Guess he screen passed them to death.
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Yep. Dobbs is capable of throwing down field. Our style doesn't call for it much though. In the Georgia game I feel like since we as a team were forced into going down field, he was able to get into rhythm and we saw the result of that.

Dobbs haters are going to make up there own reasons for trash talking him though.
 
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gobraves101035 said:
But you also have to consider that debord is going to be calling plays that he thinks dobbs can complete. If he doesn't think that dobbs can complete 10-15 yard passes consistently he isn't going to call anything but short passes, so i wouldn't necessarily blame it on the calling of plays.
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However, Dobbs has shown, when given the consistent opportunities like vs BGSU, Georgia and last year's SCar game, that he indeed can complete those passes, especially to the middle of the field. There have been only 2 games the last two years where Josh was allowed to throw the ball with any regularity where he wasn't successful. Is he the most accurate guy? No. But, IMHO, he shouldn't be given much more latitude with the passing game.
 
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#350
Anyone think Vincent Perry had anything to do with this kid only being offered a blueshirt?
 
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