'17 CA DT/OL Jalen McKenzie

[BUBear]

San Jose Mercury News 4* OT Jalen Mckenzie Surprise Top 3

Jalen McKenzie, one of the top offensive line recruits in the Bay Area and the son of Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie, said Tuesday that he has narrowed his list of suitors to a final three of USC, Maryland and Baylor.

McKenzie, a 6-5, 280-pound offensive tackle from Clayton Valley Charter, plans on taking a trip to USC this weekend. He’s also set to take at least one more trip but did not specify what school.

The talented McKenzie has offers from nine Power 5 schools including six in the Pac-12, according to Rivals.com. Rated a four-star recruit by Scout.com, McKenzie said he also has been talking to Alabama. He doesn’t intend to make a decision until letter of intent day Feb. 1.

Asked about Maryland and Baylor making his top three, McKenzie said Baylor is “trending upward” and that he would like to be part of a class that helps rebuild a program.

 

[Dust10]

USC or Blueshirt to UT.

 

[JohnD13]

USC or Blueshirt to UT.

No blue shirt he gone

 

[Mullins2010]

No blue shirt he gone

Wonder if USC will really take him

 

[AV_12]

USC or Blueshirt to UT.

He's not blueshirting

 

[Dust10]

I'll check back with y'all on NSD.

 

[manndingo]

Not sure haven't done any research on him. I have seen guys speaking well of him. My thing is I personally wouldn't consider anyone associate director it has he poorly quality of Oline play the past 3 yrs. there has been little to no progression for guys who hv multiple starts. A major part of it was s&c program too, so I'll reserve judgement on him. I personally think you have to go get a big time guy who is very technical to fix the mess that was taught. I spoke with the former Falcons OL coach he said he personally contacted CBJ and told him that they were teaching guys bad habits and techniques. Then he said he sent some videos and drills to help out.

This makes me sad...we are so soft it stinks.

 

[manndingo]

You might want to do your homework Kendrick was moved to OT out of necessity and coaches were not happy with him. He was locked in at OG preseason then moved bk to OT out of need. Mahoney has Coleman Thomas who isnt built to be anything other than a C or OG at OT. Look up your info before you say "he was never" and do a fact check 1st. Also being the best on a Mahoney coached OLine 😞😞😞😞🤔🤔🤔🤔 not saying much

100%...BK should be playing inside, not a very good tackle and yes the guards, Jashon in particular was atrocious. Wiseman was our best OL when he wasn't hurt. Thomas regressed at center as did everyone else. Mahoney has gots to go and I mean yesterday. Boulware and jones were pretty physical freaks up front and drew was coming on near end of season. With some real OL coaching they might just be okay...then again Butch is doing the hiring so we may end up with some other bum.

 

[de1conley]

100%...BK should be playing inside, not a very good tackle and yes the guards, Jashon in particular was atrocious. Wiseman was our best OL when he wasn't hurt. Thomas regressed at center as did everyone else. Mahoney has gots to go and I mean yesterday. Boulware and jones were pretty physical freaks up front and drew was coming on near end of season. With some real OL coaching they might just be okay...then again Butch is doing the hiring so we may end up with some other bum.

A vast majority of it was S&C. I mean when we had our Alcoa camp and KP, JM, VP, AK, DKJ, JM, etc showed up talking about no speed training in the off season program myself along with Buck were in awe. Us being us we made a phone call and set some things up for the guys outside of what they were doing on campus. Mahoney showed up with his son and kids looked at him like hmmm why are you here, but he was there as a parent not a coach so he wasn't out there working anyways.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

A vast majority of it was S&C. I mean when we had our Alcoa camp and KP, JM, VP, AK, DKJ, JM, etc showed up talking about no speed training in the off season program myself along with Buck were in awe. Us being us we made a phone call and set some things up for the guys outside of what they were doing on campus. Mahoney showed up with his son and kids looked at him like hmmm why are you here, but he was there as a parent not a coach so he wasn't out there working anyways.

I certainly hope the Rock has speed training as a part of his S&C program. It was a big part of Stuckey’s program and we saw the results.

 

[JohnD13]

A vast majority of it was S&C. I mean when we had our Alcoa camp and KP, JM, VP, AK, DKJ, JM, etc showed up talking about no speed training in the off season program myself along with Buck were in awe. Us being us we made a phone call and set some things up for the guys outside of what they were doing on campus. Mahoney showed up with his son and kids looked at him like hmmm why are you here, but he was there as a parent not a coach so he wasn't out there working anyways.

So now you're trolling us by having plants agree with you?

 

[BondJamesBond]

As important as speed is to Butch, if there was no speed work in the off season program, he isn't near the micromanager he is accused of being. Then the kids all said it to a camp coach but never their team's coaching staff. Doesn't add up. I'm guessing someone misunderstood what they were told. But I don't know that.

 

[BaldBiker]

As important as speed is to Butch, if there was no speed work in the off season program, he isn't near the micromanager he is accused of being. Then the kids all said it to a camp coach but never their team's coaching staff. Doesn't add up. I'm guessing someone misunderstood what they were told. But I don't know that.

There is a lot about his statement that don't add up. Why would the kids at his camp be looking at Mahoney like "why are you here"?

If they were high school kids, no way they are looking at a college coach like that. If they were UT linemen...there is also no way they would be looking at their coach like that for everyone else to see....unless someone is spurring them on to do so.

To be fair though, I haven't bought what De1 has been selling for a long time, so I might be biased in my opinion of what he is saying.

 

[butchna]

There is a lot about his statement that don't add up. Why would the kids at his camp be looking at Mahoney like "why are you here"?

If they were high school kids, no way they are looking at a college coach like that. If they were UT linemen...there is also no way they would be looking at their coach like that for everyone else to see....unless someone is spurring them on to do so.

To be fair though, I haven't bought what De1 has been selling for a long time, so I might be biased in my opinion of what he is saying.

He used to be good for an inside perspective on camping recruits. He'd mix a little garbage in but it didn't seem agenda driven...boy did that change! :blink:

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

As important as speed is to Butch, if there was no speed work in the off season program, he isn't near the micromanager he is accused of being. Then the kids all said it to a camp coach but never their team's coaching staff. Doesn't add up. I'm guessing someone misunderstood what they were told. But I don't know that.

Not necessarily true. He gets criticized because people say he micromanages position coaches and coordinators

Having a bad off-season S&C program doesn't disprove that

 

[BondJamesBond]

Not necessarily true. He gets criticized because people say he micromanages position coaches and coordinators

Having a bad off-season S&C program doesn't disprove that

Doesn't disprove it. Certainly isn't consistent with it. Maybe he's not a micromanager. Or maybe the lack of speed work was misconstrued. Or maybe someone didn't understand what the saw. No idea. But it's all speculation on everyone's part.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Doesn't disprove it. Certainly isn't consistent with it. Maybe he's not a micromanager. Or maybe the lack of speed work was misconstrued. Or maybe someone didn't understand what the saw. No idea. But it's all speculation on everyone's part.

Having a bad S&C routine doesn't prove or disprove that he's a micromanager.

You're assuming no speed training means Butch wasn't micromanaging without considering the possibility of them not doing it because of meddling.


We just don't know the details though, so you can't really use that piece of info either way in the micromanager stuff.

Saying it's not consistent with Butch being a micromanager is a leap you can only make based on an assumption. The truth is that it's not relevant to that discussion either way

 

[VolnJC]

A vast majority of it was S&C. I mean when we had our Alcoa camp and KP, JM, VP, AK, DKJ, JM, etc showed up talking about no speed training in the off season program myself along with Buck were in awe. Us being us we made a phone call and set some things up for the guys outside of what they were doing on campus. Mahoney showed up with his son and kids looked at him like hmmm why are you here, but he was there as a parent not a coach so he wasn't out there working anyways.

any truth to the rumors that Buck doesn't like Thig?

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

any truth to the rumors that Buck doesn't like Thig?

Interesting...sure would explain why our mid-state recruiting has fallen off, and why there seems to be a negative vibe from NPA towards TN. Would also explain why Thig doesn't recruit that area anymore.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Having a bad S&C routine doesn't prove or disprove that he's a micromanager.

You're assuming no speed training means Butch wasn't micromanaging without considering the possibility of them not doing it because of meddling.


We just don't know the details though, so you can't really use that piece of info either way in the micromanager stuff.

Saying it's not consistent with Butch being a micromanager is a leap you can only make based on an assumption. The truth is that it's not relevant to that discussion either way

And yet you have chosen to argue it. It was an observation about two conflicting narratives... He micromanages and that in this case, he was detached and out of touch. Alternative explanations are that he believes in speed versus he chose not to coach speed. Sorry you disapprove of my bringing it up. Bottom line, since you missed it, is that some of these narratives are very likely to be false. Occams razor and all that.

You believe that Butch is a micro manager who values speed who allowed his S&C coach for a full off-season to not coach speed. That's fine. Makes more sense to me that someone reporting this is mistaken about at least one of these things.

 

[Glitch]

Interesting...sure would explain why our mid-state recruiting has fallen off, and why there seems to be a negative vibe from NPA towards TN. Would also explain why Thig doesn't recruit that area anymore.

NB4 De1 claims to be offended and tries to convince everyone that isn't true.

 

[AV_12]

Interesting...sure would explain why our mid-state recruiting has fallen off, and why there seems to be a negative vibe from NPA towards TN. Would also explain why Thig doesn't recruit that area anymore.

Our midstate recruiting has fallen off because these kids didn't really grow up as Tennessee fans, and we haven't been good enough to bring that back.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

And yet you have chosen to argue it. It was an observation about two conflicting narratives... He micromanages and that in this case, he was detached and out of touch. Alternative explanations are that he believes in speed versus he chose not to coach speed. Sorry you disapprove of my bringing it up. Bottom line, since you missed it, is that some of these narratives are very likely to be false. Occams razor and all that.

You believe that Butch is a micro manager who values speed who allowed his S&C coach for a full off-season to not coach speed. That's fine. Makes more sense to me that someone reporting this is mistaken about at least one of these things.

Idk why you're getting all butthurt and getting off assuming what my beliefs about Butch being a micromanager are or aren't.

But your logic was flawed.


The way Szerzan (sp?) ran the offseason strength and conditioning program does nothing to prove or disprove whether Butch is a micromanager because we don't know what Butch's personal preferred method of offseason training is.


You're assuming you do know that, but you don't. So you can't use the lack of speed training one way or another with regards to arguing that Butch is a micromanager.


But please, by all means, continue putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting my arguments in a desperate attempt to come to terms with your poorly reasoned argument.

 

[Bring_Back_Dooley]

Our midstate recruiting has fallen off because these kids didn't really grow up as Tennessee fans, and we haven't been good enough to bring that back.

I think this is the real reason. UT has been, for the most part, hot garbage over the last decade. String together a couple of 10-win seasons, and I think we would see a real change in mid-State recruit's views of UT.

 

[de1conley]

any truth to the rumors that Buck doesn't like Thig?

This Buck and Thig narrative is so old and has since been patched up. The real thing that happened was Elder leaving. Also guy from the midstate talk to guys on the team who are not pleased with the state of the program and promises and so on by position coaches and CBJ. Its the same reason they didn't get Akers and Tee kids talk to players and hear complaints. I hate discussing tings of this nature because ppl get so hurt and recently sent emails to our NPA email that were funny about us steering recruits and I said we do etc which I have adamantly daid was untrue when accused by posters on here. There is nothing blocking midstate kids but the state of the program and culture. it has nothing to do with NPA.