'17 NC DE Matthew Butler (UT Signee)

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Butler and Crosby will play a lot this year. Butler was criminally underrated, Parade All-Americans don't grow on trees.
 
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LaagerVol said:
I would be impressed if I saw someone that had been in a college S&C program for 2 years, even if it wasn't the best, put on 30 lbs of clean mass in 3 months. And remember we had a decent S&C coach Quays first year.

I just think he has been working hard and making gains since he has been on campus and this size/strength didn't happen overnight
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Ya, I'd say it's pretty rare for someone who's so close to their peak to jump that high that fast unless there was a lot of fat being added too
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Not cut up. lol You'll put on more than 30 pounds overall though. Even the ones on gear don't do that in 90 days.
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Agree. Begs the question, "how do you know it was all muscle?"

Did you DEXA scan, hydrostatic weighing? Did you cut down and still have an extra 30 pounds of LBM?

All unlikely. Everyone thinks they carry more muscle than they do, until they get shredded and weigh 145.

Not a personal attack, Nash. Just a common misconception that I see all the dang time
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Trey Smith is a freak though.

Also how'd you carry that 30lbs from an athletic standpoint? That's a lot of muscle to carry comfortably with no adjustment or conditioning problems just out of the blue.
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Carried it fine but I was young 17 and had frame for it. It was all good weight. Stronger and faster. I couldn't add it now if I tried and wouldn't want to. I didn't count calories so no clue how many I ate. I basically would eat double the meat and eat peanut butter before bed ti help add weight then work it off. It's a blessing and a curse that I can go years without working out and jump in gym for a mth and be back in shape now.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Agree. Begs the question, "how do you know it was all muscle?"

Did you DEXA scan, hydrostatic weighing? Did you cut down and still have an extra 30 pounds of LBM?

All unlikely. Everyone thinks they carry more muscle than they do, until they get shredded and weigh 145.

Not a personal attack, Nash. Just a common misconception that I see all the dang time
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I was young in HS. Not some expert. It wasn't fat. My body was just ready for it. Stuff my face then turn it into muscle. I was accused of steroids due to the jump but never touched that stuff. Was tested at less than 4% body fat on a recruiting visit(not football FYI).

I'm just saying it's easy for kids in HS to College to make huge gains. We see T all the time. Not sure why it's questionable to think quay is one of strongest on a team with a new focus and losing some strong players.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
I was young in HS. Not some expert. It wasn't fat. My body was just ready for it. Stuff my face then turn it into muscle. I was accused of steroids due to the jump but never touched that stuff. Was tested at less than 4% body fat on a recruiting visit(not football FYI).

I'm just saying it's easy for kids in HS to College to make huge gains. We see T all the time. Not sure why it's questionable to think quay is one of strongest on a team with a new focus and losing some strong players.
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I wasn't trying to personally attack either.

I also didn't say it's questionable that he is one of the strongest on the team. I just said he wasn't 255 when Rock got there now all the sudden after 3 months he is 295 and squats 600 and benches 500. I think it's been a much longer process than that.

There is a HUGE difference between a 17 yr old that's never worked out making those kinds of gains in 3 months and a 20 yr old that's already been in a college S&C program for 2 years.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
I was young in HS. Not some expert. It wasn't fat. My body was just ready for it. Stuff my face then turn it into muscle. I was accused of steroids due to the jump but never touched that stuff. Was tested at less than 4% body fat on a recruiting visit(not football FYI).

I'm just saying it's easy for kids in HS to College to make huge gains. We see T all the time. Not sure why it's questionable to think quay is one of strongest on a team with a new focus and losing some strong players.
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I'm going to just drop it :)

But you've left that 4% bodyfat hanging out there like a juicy worm on a hook... I'm just walkin' away. :)
 
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LaagerVol said:
I wasn't trying to personally attack either.

I also didn't say it's questionable that he is one of the strongest on the team. I just said he wasn't 255 when Rock got there now all the sudden after 3 months he is 295 and squats 600 and benches 500. I think it's been a much longer process than that.

There is a HUGE difference between a 17 yr old that's never worked out making those kinds of gains in 3 months and a 20 yr old that's already been in a college S&C program for 2 years.
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No idea on quays size or weight change. Only thing I said was the coaches say he is one of strongest in team. He could be same size and just turned fat to muscle. He sees bigger opportunity to play and I venture to say he is more motivated to work han he was past two years.
 
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https://tennessee.rivals.com/news/butler-s-focus-pushing-him-to-arrive-ready-to-go

Tennessee signee Matthew Butler is counting down the days. Friday will be his last day of high school, then Sunday, the defensive lineman moves to Rocky Top. “I'm ready to get to it,” Butler said.

The reality is that Butler is always ready to get after it. Even a brief conversation, Butler's motivation and drive comes through immediately. “I just have a reason why I'm doing what I'm doing,” Butler said. “If you have a reason, you are not going to get tired of it.

“This is what I love to do. I want to be great. I want to be on the field, get mean, talk and play. If you are a defensive linemen and you are always poised then you don't love what you are doing. You get to beat a man in front of you man to man and then get to go hit someone. I love what what I'm doing it. “My motivation is my love for football.”

“Talking to coach Rock today. He saw me at 270 at the spring game and said I looked good.” Conversations about strength training and nutrition with strength coach Rock Gullickson are commonplace for Butler, as are a lot of conversations with various members of the Vol staff. “We talk weekly, sometimes twice week,” Butler said of Gullickson. “Coach Hoke and I talk once or twice a week.

“Since my official visit, I took full advantage. I talked to guys and got their mindset. I figured out the dynamic of the team. Got to know them personally and cultivated relationships with them. Kahlil (McKenzie) has been great. He has given me a lot of advice. Coach Jones told me that I could be a big part of it. I could change the culture and I could play. I didn't want to just sign and see you in June. I wanted to continue to get to know them and them know me. I have to do my job here to a point that an early enrollee isn't so far ahead of me.”

At 270 pounds, the question many Vol fans have been asking is where will Butler play? Is he an outside guy or an inside guy? Butler has received a clear vision from defensive line coach Brady Hoke. “Coach Hoke said to maintain my body. Don't gain weight. He likes me at defensive end,” Butler said.

“With the depth at dt, third down situations, and against certain teams playing 3-technique is a possibly and that's not a bad thing. I don't mind playing inside if I'm asked to. I'm going to do what ever I need to do. “The guys believe in me. There's a sense of urgency in me to come in help.” “Try to be the best person I can.”
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From same article...

Favorite recruiting story?

“I was watching Tennessee-Georgia game game and saw coach Jones leave the field going back to the locker room with his team. “Then I looked at my phone a couple minutes later and coach Jones texted me and said we are about to win. Then he texted me right after the game and said, 'See, told you so.' That was pretty cool.”
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Ron Swanson said:
From same article...
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For a second there, I read that like Butch Jones called the hail mary and texted Butler and said "watch this" and then texted later to say "see, I told you."

I guess Butch texted him at half time?? Is that what I'm supposed to take from that?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
For a second there, I read that like Butch Jones called the hail mary and texted Butler and said "watch this" and then texted later to say "see, I told you."

I guess Butch texted him at half time?? Is that what I'm supposed to take from that?
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Yes, halftime.
 
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Definitely seems mature and willing to play whatever role...

Certain kids illicit good vibes about their character/make up, and this kid certainly does...

Eager to see him do battle...
 
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Pacer92 said:
Definitely seems mature and willing to play whatever role...

Certain kids illicit good vibes about their character/make up, and this kid certainly does...

Eager to see him do battle...
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As long as they don't do elicit drugs, than their good in my book.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Definitely seems mature and willing to play whatever role...

Certain kids illicit good vibes about their character/make up, and this kid certainly does...

Eager to see him do battle...
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Was wondering what was illicit about good vibes.
 
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#750
There's some things u can't teach kids,Heart is one..Kid gonna be good if he keeps progressing.Also seems like one of those dudes gonna hold himself and others around him accountable.
 
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