'17 NC LB Justin Foster

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IAM410EC said:
We are slight leaders, over Clemson, which is surprising to me.
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I hope we can land this kid. He has 5* written all over him and at one time he was a 5*, not sure why he dropped. Either way this kid is one of the better LB recruits in the country and we have a great shot at landing him
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Why is that surprising? Butch and co have been on this kid for awhile and we've always been at or near the top. He named us his leader last June after a visit.
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To be fair there Mr. Swanson. Last June people were way to busy freaking out over the 2016 class.....in June....to even really care about a 2017 recruit at the time.

:eek:lol:
 
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Oh, it's a pleasant surprise, don't get me wrong. Just seems like Clemson has a lot of "momentum" right now when we square off for recruits. Hopefully we can get Foster and Higgins though.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Hey genuis, what role did Curt Maggitt play?

They said they're developing Austin to do the same. You can consider that a leap if you want.
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I hope Smith becomes a very good player.... but he's not close to where Maggitt was at this point in his career.
 
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IAM410EC said:
Oh, it's a pleasant surprise, don't get me wrong. Just seems like Clemson has a lot of "momentum" right now when we square off for recruits. Hopefully we can get Foster and Higgins though.
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While it does seem like that, they've been burned by us numerous time. They badly wanted Malone and North. Don't forget Marlin Lane and his Clemson tattoo, as well, just to name a few.

Tis interesting though, after these 16 and 17 recruiting classes, we certainly have a budding recruiting rivalry.
 
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Good points. I remember the recent losses (Hunter Johnson and Amari Rogers) more than the wins.

Hubbs said last week that if we got Higgins, we were likely done at WR this recruiting cycle. Obviously, would rather get Higgins on board than Rogers anyway.
 
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IAM410EC said:
:good!:

Good points. I remember the recent losses (Hunter Johnson and Amari Rogers) more than the wins.

Hubbs said last week that if we got Higgins, we were likely done at WR this recruiting cycle. Obviously, would rather get Higgins on board than Rogers anyway.
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I'd to get Higgins and Rodgers, tbh.

I'm curious if Rodgers still talks to the UT staff.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I think you're over thinking this.

If Curt was still on the team, would you expect Shoop to not play him at strong side linebacker?

The coaches were clear. Austin Smith is being groomed for a Curt Maggitt type role. I made no leaps. You're the one going through the mental gymnastics of trying to distort a pretty clear statement.
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If curt was still on the team, I would be just as curious. Because, as I've said many times, Shoop hasn't used a hybrid DE/OLB in pass stops and has played his SLB out in space in ways we never saw Jancek use SLBs. So I'd say it's a pretty valid question.

Plus, If you think about it, it seems unlikely we see Smith play much of a hybrid role in 2016 anyway. We have at least 4-5 guys who would play in front of him at DE in the nickel. Why not just have him focus on SLB if he's going to be playing there so much more than DE? At PSU, Shoop used his base 4-3 as much as 60% of the time, even against some spread opponents. If the plan was for Smith to be at SLB for up to 60% of the snaps in 2016, it seems like that would have been seen in the spring.

But maybe they're just thinking ahead to 2017 when we'll need more depth at DE and a guy who can fill a hybrid role will be more valuable. My only point is that we don't know for sure how exactly we'll see Smith used in 2016. Even if he's being groomed to be used exactly like Maggit, I doubt we see that in 2016. Maggit was one of our best at playing DE while he was here, so it made sense for him to play both. In 2016, I'm not sure we can say the same about Smith. At least not as long as Barnett, Vereen, Lewis, Phillips, Taylor, Mixon, and Kongbo are all in the mix as well.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
If curt was still on the team, I would be just as curious. Because, as I've said many times, Shoop hasn't used a hybrid DE/OLB in pass stops and has played his SLB out in space in ways we never saw Jancek use SLBs. So I'd say it's a pretty valid question.

Plus, If you think about it, it seems unlikely we see Smith play much of a hybrid role in 2016 anyway. We have at least 4-5 guys who would play in front of him at DE in the nickel. Why not just have him focus on SLB if he's going to be playing there so much more than DE? At PSU, Shoop used his base 4-3 as much as 60% of the time, even against some spread opponents. If the plan was for Smith to be at SLB for up to 60% of the snaps in 2016, it seems like that would have been seen in the spring.

But maybe they're just thinking ahead to 2017 when we'll need more depth at DE and a guy who can fill a hybrid role will be more valuable. My only point is that we don't know for sure how exactly we'll see Smith used in 2016. Even if he's being groomed to be used exactly like Maggit, I doubt we see that in 2016. Maggit was one of our best at playing DE while he was here, so it made sense for him to play both. In 2016, I'm not sure we can say the same about Smith. At least not as long as Barnett, Vereen, Lewis, Phillips, Taylor, Mixon, and Kongbo are all in the mix as well.
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I enjoy how you give your opinion in a thoughtful manner without being condescending or rude. I have enjoyed your posts very much. Thought I would let you know.
 
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IAM410EC said:
Oh, it's a pleasant surprise, don't get me wrong. Just seems like Clemson has a lot of "momentum" right now when we square off for recruits. Hopefully we can get Foster and Higgins though.
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Clemson's a fad right now. I think they'll get knocked back down to earth this season, as early as week 1.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He was at the Oklahoma game and kept talking about the atmosphere for months. I've been feeling good about this kid since that game.
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This. Foster has always loved Tennessee and at the very least had them in his Top 2. The whole Clemson leading stuff was an assumption by the 247 national experts and nothing more.
 
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